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gaiabulbanix
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Thailand76 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-15 11:50:15
March 15 2010 11:48 GMT
#1
Ok so last time, I tried to post something similar to this, but it was kinda bad and got closed/deleted cuz I was too emotionally pissed off at myself and at random people in ICCUP playing cheesy... 4 pool into fast lurk (If I somehow manage to survive), Zergling All-In, Proxy gates (Inside the base, outside the base, proxy with shield battery, proxy cannons), Gas steal (Plus any of the above proxies), Proxy Tech, 3 Fact All-In, 14 CC (Even in 2 Player Maps T.T with the normal 13/18 scout)..... I get even more pissed off when it's some Korean who after getting the advantage starts doing things like MCing my scv and adding tanks to his army, mass corsairing, etc etc... I know i'm only D/D-/Barely reacheed D+ level, but it's so painful to my mental state and will to play that sometimes that I literally physically abuse a wall and scream out offensive and loud words (The wall to my left now has a few large dents :D). Just wanted to rant... But I was hoping somebody with a similar experience could empathize with me T.T... I know I have to get better but sometimes it just feels so far away, I'm even being modest with my goals and plan on reaching C- (A dream that seems so frikkin impossible T.T). I just dunno what to do sometimes... Don't feel like giving up but it's just... So... Painful.... T.T.... My dad caught me punching the wall and said "Wth lol" and I explained it to him, and he said "It's just a game", but...... Meh... Maybe i'm thinking too much....

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lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
March 15 2010 11:56 GMT
#2
if you're getting that angry then quit the game, all newbs think everything is cheese if the other player doesn't fast expand.. I'm sick of seeing D level players rage about nothing, you aren't good enough to get mad, so just uninstall all together or stop raging and play until you get better
You can't fight the feeling.
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
March 15 2010 11:57 GMT
#3
its just a game.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
March 15 2010 11:57 GMT
#4
/n/r please

its normal to sometime face ppl your caliber, sometime face ppl way better then you. it's just like that :o
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gaiabulbanix
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Thailand76 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-15 12:07:36
March 15 2010 12:02 GMT
#5
Lol then would you care to explain how any of the above is NOT cheese? I mean maybe the gas steal part, but proxy gates INSIDE the base.... Yeah, sure, let's change terms a bit. How about people who don't play "standard", because from a post somewhere I read on TL it said something along the lines of "play standard and practice macro until you get better". Well I took that advice, and it just doesen't seem to be working. Now let me ask you, how do I get better coming from a situation like this? Having a <20% win rate isn't exactly good for one's confidence, especially when more two-thirds of those loses are of the kind mentioned above. I guess one major thing that is on my mind about this is improving to be a better player, and I just feel stuck on that point.
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
March 15 2010 12:05 GMT
#6
i like to hope when i scout and mc peoples workers i invoke this kind of rage... You have confirmed this. I thank you good sir.
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lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-15 12:11:30
March 15 2010 12:07 GMT
#7
what's your definition of playing standard?
so if you play standard you can't scout inside your base? or defend a D- players rush? that's your own newb fault, you're just bad so stop complaining or just uninstall.
IM VERY sick of blogs like this I just had to vent, when I was a D player I NEVER complained and I got B- within 2 seasons in under 60 games, it's not the fact that you're losing to cheese it's just you have no idea what to do when something isn't fast expand.
You can't fight the feeling.
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
March 15 2010 12:07 GMT
#8
You aren't going to get better before you can block stuff like this anyways, which happens at all levels. Rather than rage, just make sure you don't lose to the same thing again (that's getting better).
leejas
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States440 Posts
March 15 2010 12:15 GMT
#9
Sometimes you have to play with the intent of practice and not winning. I usually play on one account solely to work on micro/macro/mechanics. Whether I win or not I usually analyze the specific thing I'm working on.
gaiabulbanix
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Thailand76 Posts
March 15 2010 12:18 GMT
#10
Lol well not everyone is as skilled as you, and I basically you're just telling me to give up and uninstall? D- rush... Do you realize that nowadays there's a huge gap between the skills of D- and the skills of a D and D+ ranked player? Who knows it might even be a smurf or what not. Never mind, cuz i'm not raged anymore, and strangely enough I should thank you for talking like that, makes me want to put more effort just so that I could get better and not have to post like this.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
March 15 2010 12:49 GMT
#11
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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
March 15 2010 13:00 GMT
#12
low rank level terrans are going to a hell of frustating time in iccup
cheeses tend to be lethal (and easy) against terrans this level
just accept this fact
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LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
March 15 2010 13:10 GMT
#13
It tooks to me 3 years for going from D to C+. This game gives rewards to loyalty. (however if I was you i would simply stop and wait for sc2 being out)
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l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
March 15 2010 13:16 GMT
#14
Playing standard and proper scouting beats most of those builds.
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eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
March 15 2010 13:53 GMT
#15
On March 15 2010 21:07 lokiM wrote:
what's your definition of playing standard?
so if you play standard you can't scout inside your base? or defend a D- players rush? that's your own newb fault, you're just bad so stop complaining or just uninstall.
IM VERY sick of blogs like this I just had to vent, when I was a D player I NEVER complained and I got B- within 2 seasons in under 60 games, it's not the fact that you're losing to cheese it's just you have no idea what to do when something isn't fast expand.


This post is just trolling you, I would just ignore it. This is your blog, and you have the right to complain about things, so long as it's within reason (which it totally is). I can see why you would start getting upset having someone come into your own blog and start trolling you like crazy.

Seriously, why tell him to uninstall the game? Your type of posts are what bring upon all the TL.net stereotypes.


As for your pain with iccup, just try and move past it. I think if you took a few weeks and focused solidly on the first initial 8-10 minutes of the game, you will more than likely improve alot. Finding a specific aspect, and spending quality time fixing it will usually yield good results.

For example, load the replays where you are beaten by these builds, and watch the mistakes you make. Did you forget to scout properly? Were any units late? Did you miss a supply depot by accident? how did you guage his tech? etc. Write down some of the flaws you see in your replays, and take the time to fix each one. This could be as easy as post-it notes on the side of your monitor telling you to not forget scvs/supply depots, or you could even go as far as having a friend sit next to you, and remind you of ceertain things. Like supply/scvs/scouting etc.

Next, find a few replays of decent players coming up against these same sort of build orders, and watch how they react, and defend. Take that knowledge and apply it to your gamestyle and you should improve quite a bit.

Overall, taking an active roll in your progress is what will be the first kickstart you need. Most people just assume they need to continue mass gaming, without actually sitting back and changing various aspects of their game. So, find the flaws, slowly fix them, and you will be C- in no time! GL!
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
March 15 2010 14:06 GMT
#16
On March 15 2010 21:18 gaiabulbanix wrote:
Lol well not everyone is as skilled as you, and I basically you're just telling me to give up and uninstall? D- rush... Do you realize that nowadays there's a huge gap between the skills of D- and the skills of a D and D+ ranked player? Who knows it might even be a smurf or what not. Never mind, cuz i'm not raged anymore, and strangely enough I should thank you for talking like that, makes me want to put more effort just so that I could get better and not have to post like this.


Then his work here is done.
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Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
March 15 2010 15:48 GMT
#17
This is common at the start of the season
D- players like me will always ONLY play UMS at the start of the season to not get stomped by players who are like B and wants to ladder their way up
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
March 15 2010 16:18 GMT
#18
Scout a lot if you keep dying to cheese. If you think you might be getting cheesed and are unsure maybe add a bunker vs zerg and protoss. If you keep dying to a cheese search here and liquipedia and maybe find teh proper way to respond. If its just not good enough micro, keep at it. I know most cheeses I encounter I die the first couple times, but by the third or fourth time I am able to stop it. Maybe its just because I'm protoss. Another problem is there might be B rank smurfs cheesing you, causing you to look worse than you really are. Keep a good attitude and stay calm. Instead of focusing on the cheese and getting pissed off focus on what you could have done better and how to stop it the next time.

These aren't the highest quality blogs, but if you don't like it don't post instead of coming in calling the guy a noob and stating how much better you are.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
March 15 2010 17:37 GMT
#19
On March 15 2010 20:56 lokiM wrote:
if you're getting that angry then quit the game, all newbs think everything is cheese if the other player doesn't fast expand.. I'm sick of seeing D level players rage about nothing, you aren't good enough to get mad, so just uninstall all together or stop raging and play until you get better

what does being good have to do with getting mad, really?
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-15 21:22:33
March 15 2010 21:22 GMT
#20
I don't think anyone of you C above people realise how effective cheese games are at D/D- level.

For the OP, I sympathise. But really you just need to improve. There is no reason why you can't scout that early rush and make a build that counter it.

If there ever is anything so obvious and formulated in starcraft then it's scouting early all-ins and blocking it.
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