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On March 11 2010 01:01 Epicfailguy wrote:Yeah two days in the first month is a lot. Funny that you mentioned this actually, since I got my job 8 months ago, I've climbed some ladders and now I'm kind of an instructor for the some sections of the factory I work at, and my boss and I made the same decision as you mentioned. A guy was sick two days in the first month, but thats not really the reason we're letting him go. He appeared to just not care or be interested in his job. He just did as he was told and then sat on his ass. When you add that with 2 days of being away the first month it's not really a good sign. Now we have another guy I'm currently instructing and he came 3 days when he was sick, and the fourth day he puked and I told him to go home. He asks questions all the time, and works his ass off and appears to be really committed to getting this job, which he most def is going to get. Your post reeks of a whiner/complainer kind of guy who have had shit fall in his hands his entire life, and you come across as a person who just shows up and expects to get paid by just being there. Show nested quote +Should I have done more? Was it wrong of me to not come into work sick? Is my education useless? Am I useless? I don't know, I'm so... fucking...confused Your education isn't useless, you're not useless, but your attitude is. Show nested quote +Confusion has passed now. I am fucking raging. In part thanks to some of you assholes who seem so convinced I deserve to get fired even though you don't know shit about what I do. What exactly do you expect when you make a topic like this? A pat on the shoulder, telling you everything is going to be ok and they're assholes for firing you? "buhu im useless my education sucks waa waa waa" seriously grow up :p
Am I the only one who thinks its weird to expect someone to come to work sick? I totally respect the guy who came to work sick until he threw up, but I sure as hell don't respect his boss for waiting until he throws up before sending him home. And then you somehow feel noble and proud for making sure he gets the job? He fucking better get the job after you put him through that shit.
I made this blog because I was confused and needed answers from people who might have some insight. Not to get looked down upon by holier-than-thou-"I'm such a hard worker" pricks like you.
No, I didn't love the job, it was WORK, but that doesn't mean I didn't do it to the best of my abilities. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who expects me to jump around my boss' legs like some overexcited yorkshire terrier barking about how much I love my job on top of DOING my damn job can go stuff themselves.
I did my job and I still get fired, without a peep of negative feedback up until that point. I think I'm entitled to rage.
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If you were legitimate sick, and only you would know. I would not feel the least bit bad about geting fired over it. No job is worth your health, and you also have a responablity not to make your fellow workers sick. I personally hate when someone comes to work and they are like "i'm so sick!" And all I'm thinking is "stay the hell away from me then". Good luck finding new work
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Hm, isnt it illegal to fire you just, because you`re sick. I mean at least here, when getting a job you sign a contract, where they cant fire if you dont go to work while being sick (of course you have to show docs from the doctor). You just dont get paid for the days you`re missing at work.
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Dude if you're gonna call in sick twice in the first month you're clearly not comitted enough. This is freshmen organisational psychology, no boss is gonna keep an employee like that unless it's some kind of factory job.
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On March 11 2010 01:35 Osmoses wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2010 01:01 Epicfailguy wrote:Yeah two days in the first month is a lot. Funny that you mentioned this actually, since I got my job 8 months ago, I've climbed some ladders and now I'm kind of an instructor for the some sections of the factory I work at, and my boss and I made the same decision as you mentioned. A guy was sick two days in the first month, but thats not really the reason we're letting him go. He appeared to just not care or be interested in his job. He just did as he was told and then sat on his ass. When you add that with 2 days of being away the first month it's not really a good sign. Now we have another guy I'm currently instructing and he came 3 days when he was sick, and the fourth day he puked and I told him to go home. He asks questions all the time, and works his ass off and appears to be really committed to getting this job, which he most def is going to get. Your post reeks of a whiner/complainer kind of guy who have had shit fall in his hands his entire life, and you come across as a person who just shows up and expects to get paid by just being there. Should I have done more? Was it wrong of me to not come into work sick? Is my education useless? Am I useless? I don't know, I'm so... fucking...confused Your education isn't useless, you're not useless, but your attitude is. Confusion has passed now. I am fucking raging. In part thanks to some of you assholes who seem so convinced I deserve to get fired even though you don't know shit about what I do. What exactly do you expect when you make a topic like this? A pat on the shoulder, telling you everything is going to be ok and they're assholes for firing you? "buhu im useless my education sucks waa waa waa" seriously grow up :p Am I the only one who thinks its weird to expect someone to come to work sick? I totally respect the guy who came to work sick until he threw up, but I sure as hell don't respect his boss for waiting until he throws up before sending him home. And then you somehow feel noble and proud for making sure he gets the job? He fucking better get the job after you put him through that shit. I made this blog because I was confused and needed answers from people who might have some insight. Not to get looked down upon by holier-than-thou-"I'm such a hard worker" pricks like you. No, I didn't love the job, it was WORK, but that doesn't mean I didn't do it to the best of my abilities. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who expects me to jump around my boss' legs like some overexcited yorkshire terrier barking about how much I love my job on top of DOING my damn job can go stuff themselves. I did my job and I still get fired, without a peep of negative feedback up until that point. I think I'm entitled to rage.
Maybe you reminded your employer of a previous slacker who used sick days as vacations and wasn't motivated in general. Whether or not that's a fair judgment of you is for you to know, but showing commitment to your job is more than just coming in sick, it's actually showing enthusiasm and a willingness to do whatever the job asks. I don't know if you demonstrated that, or thought you demonstrated it, but it could have been a factor.
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If whatever reason they fired me for is illegal they probably wont write that on the official statement. :p Anyway, no use raging, I'm done here.
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On March 11 2010 01:35 Osmoses wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2010 01:01 Epicfailguy wrote:Yeah two days in the first month is a lot. Funny that you mentioned this actually, since I got my job 8 months ago, I've climbed some ladders and now I'm kind of an instructor for the some sections of the factory I work at, and my boss and I made the same decision as you mentioned. A guy was sick two days in the first month, but thats not really the reason we're letting him go. He appeared to just not care or be interested in his job. He just did as he was told and then sat on his ass. When you add that with 2 days of being away the first month it's not really a good sign. Now we have another guy I'm currently instructing and he came 3 days when he was sick, and the fourth day he puked and I told him to go home. He asks questions all the time, and works his ass off and appears to be really committed to getting this job, which he most def is going to get. Your post reeks of a whiner/complainer kind of guy who have had shit fall in his hands his entire life, and you come across as a person who just shows up and expects to get paid by just being there. Should I have done more? Was it wrong of me to not come into work sick? Is my education useless? Am I useless? I don't know, I'm so... fucking...confused Your education isn't useless, you're not useless, but your attitude is. Confusion has passed now. I am fucking raging. In part thanks to some of you assholes who seem so convinced I deserve to get fired even though you don't know shit about what I do. What exactly do you expect when you make a topic like this? A pat on the shoulder, telling you everything is going to be ok and they're assholes for firing you? "buhu im useless my education sucks waa waa waa" seriously grow up :p Am I the only one who thinks its weird to expect someone to come to work sick? I totally respect the guy who came to work sick until he threw up, but I sure as hell don't respect his boss for waiting until he throws up before sending him home. And then you somehow feel noble and proud for making sure he gets the job? He fucking better get the job after you put him through that shit. I made this blog because I was confused and needed answers from people who might have some insight. Not to get looked down upon by holier-than-thou-"I'm such a hard worker" pricks like you. No, I didn't love the job, it was WORK, but that doesn't mean I didn't do it to the best of my abilities. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who expects me to jump around my boss' legs like some overexcited yorkshire terrier barking about how much I love my job on top of DOING my damn job can go stuff themselves. I did my job and I still get fired, without a peep of negative feedback up until that point. I think I'm entitled to rage.
We said "if you're feeling to bad, you shouldn't be here"
He said "its ok, ill just see how it goes"
He throws up, and we order him home, thats pretty much what happened, we didnt force him through anything.
You wrote a few lines, mostly consisting of how much you think you've failed as a human. If you wanted feedback you'd write more than "Was sick for two days, am I useless"?
No one says you have to love your job, but you should show interest in what you're doing and not just "be there".
On March 11 2010 01:40 Frits wrote:
... unless it's some kind of factory job.
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Were you a full time salaried employee?
I assume you were on some sort of probationary period?
What reason did they give you?
You seem to be upset about some of the response you are getting but you really didn't tell us anything except that you got fired, and that you missed 2 days 
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Jobs are like courtship... you can't force someone to like you on a technicality, or make them "prove" they have a reason not to date you.
This is why the whole sick day discussion is a distraction.
Move on, better luck next time.
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The first month of working at any job is like a test. That means you are working your ass off and doing whatever you possibly can to prove that you belong. Missing two days in your first month is alot. Missing two days when you have been working at a place for over a year and have already proved yourself is nothing. It really is all about timing.
If I were you I would have to tried to only have missed one day and that's it. Once your hired that does not mean that your evaluation period is already passed because like I said the first month is the one where you goes balls out.
You can use any excuse you want like I was a "biohazard" or whatever but employers want someone who will prove to them that they got what it takes. Maybe they thought you were weak. Even if none of that is true first impressions are everything. Take it as a lesson learned.
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It's more disrespectful to go to work sick, and take the gamble of pass it on your work mates than to stay home if you're ill.
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Is there a labour code in your country? They cant fire you just because you are ill, all you have to do is to show doctors note. One of my friend was seriously injured and was disabled for a half year and all this time he was paid because employer could not fire him because of labour code. Find labour code of your country and read it.
And going to the job if you are ill is just a showing off because you cant do much if you are feeling bad.
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On March 11 2010 01:36 InToTheWannaB wrote:
If you were legitimate sick, and only you would know. I would not feel the least bit bad about geting fired over it. No job is worth your health, and you also have a responablity not to make your fellow workers sick. I personally hate when someone comes to work and they are like "i'm so sick!" And all I'm thinking is "stay the hell away from me then". Good luck finding new work
Fucking this. Who are you people that say "oh if you're sick you should come in to work anyway to show you are committed?" If you come in to work and get other people sick you are effectively doing NEGATIVE work. If your boss expected you to come in anyway if you were sick then he's a terrible boss.
On the other hand, it seems like it would be pretty common for your boss to be suspicious. They just hired you and have no idea if you're an honest person or not yet - they probably assumed you were just lazing off unless you gave them a reason to think otherwise. It would be easier and faster to prove you're trustworthy if you sucked up a little or got a doctors note or whatever. You don't have to be a suck-up for your whole career, but it's a pretty good idea to play that role for a couple months when you first get a job to get your employer to trust you. A good boss would be able to evaluate you based entirely on your performance, but, in the future, assume your boss is an idiot and you'll be better off.
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On March 10 2010 23:48 jOke.Baka wrote:
Your fault for slacking.
Better luck next time you failure.
Oh and there are NOT plenty of jobs out there like shade said, so good luck with that.
Thank you so much plexa for banning this prick.
On March 11 2010 01:01 Epicfailguy wrote:Your post reeks of a whiner/complainer kind of guy who have had shit fall in his hands his entire life, and you come across as a person who just shows up and expects to get paid by just being there. Show nested quote +Should I have done more? Was it wrong of me to not come into work sick? Is my education useless? Am I useless? I don't know, I'm so... fucking...confused Your education isn't useless, you're not useless, but your attitude is. Show nested quote +Confusion has passed now. I am fucking raging. In part thanks to some of you assholes who seem so convinced I deserve to get fired even though you don't know shit about what I do. What exactly do you expect when you make a topic like this? A pat on the shoulder, telling you everything is going to be ok and they're assholes for firing you? "buhu im useless my education sucks waa waa waa" seriously grow up :p
You need to work on your tone though Epicfailguy it's so condescending, the man just lost his job possibly his livelihood over being ill and you have the balls to call him a whiner? That's quite rude. What happened to all the Euromanner I've heard about?
To be honest I really feel for you Osmoses and I hope you find another job quickly. Don't listen to the trolls or Holier than thou pricks posting here.
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What is the point of making a thread if you're gonna act like a retard anyone gives an opinion contrary to what you want to hear? You didn't specify what was wrong with you... meaning it was probably minor. Most of the things that people have said here have been on point, and you should be fired if you're calling out of work in the first month for a cold, headache or anything short of something that's going to keep you out of work for more than 3 days
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On March 11 2010 01:35 Osmoses wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2010 01:01 Epicfailguy wrote:Yeah two days in the first month is a lot. Funny that you mentioned this actually, since I got my job 8 months ago, I've climbed some ladders and now I'm kind of an instructor for the some sections of the factory I work at, and my boss and I made the same decision as you mentioned. A guy was sick two days in the first month, but thats not really the reason we're letting him go. He appeared to just not care or be interested in his job. He just did as he was told and then sat on his ass. When you add that with 2 days of being away the first month it's not really a good sign. Now we have another guy I'm currently instructing and he came 3 days when he was sick, and the fourth day he puked and I told him to go home. He asks questions all the time, and works his ass off and appears to be really committed to getting this job, which he most def is going to get. Your post reeks of a whiner/complainer kind of guy who have had shit fall in his hands his entire life, and you come across as a person who just shows up and expects to get paid by just being there. Should I have done more? Was it wrong of me to not come into work sick? Is my education useless? Am I useless? I don't know, I'm so... fucking...confused Your education isn't useless, you're not useless, but your attitude is. Confusion has passed now. I am fucking raging. In part thanks to some of you assholes who seem so convinced I deserve to get fired even though you don't know shit about what I do. What exactly do you expect when you make a topic like this? A pat on the shoulder, telling you everything is going to be ok and they're assholes for firing you? "buhu im useless my education sucks waa waa waa" seriously grow up :p Am I the only one who thinks its weird to expect someone to come to work sick? I totally respect the guy who came to work sick until he threw up, but I sure as hell don't respect his boss for waiting until he throws up before sending him home. And then you somehow feel noble and proud for making sure he gets the job? He fucking better get the job after you put him through that shit. I made this blog because I was confused and needed answers from people who might have some insight. Not to get looked down upon by holier-than-thou-"I'm such a hard worker" pricks like you. No, I didn't love the job, it was WORK, but that doesn't mean I didn't do it to the best of my abilities. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who expects me to jump around my boss' legs like some overexcited yorkshire terrier barking about how much I love my job on top of DOING my damn job can go stuff themselves. I did my job and I still get fired, without a peep of negative feedback up until that point. I think I'm entitled to rage.
This reply sounds like EpicFailGuy was 100% correct. Calling him a holier-than-thou prick furthers the point. You have a laundry list of expectations and things you shouldn't have to do. You have an air of arrogance and seem like you think you're better than this job. The most important thing at a new job is enthusiasm and it sounds like you had none. That is most likely why you were fired.
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first 90 days is just probationary period...if they see you unfit for the job...they will let you go...they might reconsider u if you had doctor's note...or some kind of proof..but one month rookie calling in sick a month after he gets hired is a no no to anyone...it has nothing to do with any form of labor law or any of that sorts...I would not want to keep someone who call in sick twice after a month even if he is really sick...It is more beneficial for the employer to find healthier employee
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What percent of people are actually enthusiastic about the work they do?
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On March 11 2010 02:37 EmeraldSparks wrote:
What percent of people are actually enthusiastic about the work they do?
Are enthusiastic or come across as enthusiastic? Keep in mind this is the first 30 days too.
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rofl you call in sick for a single day and come back to work the next one, two times in a month?
what kind of miracle healing do you have, i think anyone would have fired you
if you really have been sick you wouldnt be able to work for some days
just go to the doctor next time lol, you will get at least 3days even if nothing is wrong with you and no one will complain.
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