On January 22 2010 02:20 jello_biafra wrote:
Hold position should be used for mines, gives them faster reaction times. Attack move for everything else.

Really? :O HOw much faster??? is this measurable?

jello_biafra

United Kingdom6640 Posts

January 21 2010 17:32 GMT

#23

On January 22 2010 02:29 never_toss wrote:

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Really? :O HOw much faster??? is this measurable?

Don't know exactly but it's what all progamers use so I assume it is.

Glaucus

479 Posts

January 21 2010 18:35 GMT

#24

Can you even kill mines with attack move? How do you anticipate the mines popping up?

AM.23)Jehuty

United States69 Posts

January 21 2010 18:50 GMT

#25

On January 22 2010 02:20 jello_biafra wrote:
Hold position should be used for mines, gives them faster reaction times. Attack move for everything else.

said it best

Itachii

Poland12466 Posts

January 21 2010 18:56 GMT

#26

^yeah

andiCR

Costa Rica2273 Posts

January 21 2010 19:33 GMT

#27

:O

Is the micro with goons ums available anywhere? I wanna try holding

LxRogue

United States1415 Posts

January 21 2010 19:41 GMT

#28

Patrol can easily make your goons freeze. I think that's why nobody uses it.

thunk

United States6233 Posts

January 21 2010 19:49 GMT

#29

I need to stop using hold position because it getting them stuck sucks so much.

DreaM)XeRO

Korea (South)4667 Posts

January 21 2010 19:52 GMT

#30

attack move and manual select..
c'mon man

4 goons 3 shots will kill a tank

Mastermind

Canada7096 Posts

January 21 2010 20:02 GMT

#31

I use to use attack move when defending against an fd rush, but recently I switched to using hold and I find that it is much better in that situation. When using the attack move technique I found that sometimes one dragoon wouldnt stop to fire and it would keep moving towards where I told it to attack because it was just out of range of the incoming marines. This really fucks everything up, so I use hold now. Also, as the guy above said I manually select tanks or vults if the opponent is sloppy enough to let one out in front so I can pick it off.
How do the people who use the attack move technique deal with the problem I stated above?

exeexe

Denmark937 Posts

January 21 2010 20:04 GMT

#32

On January 22 2010 03:56 Itachii wrote:
^yeah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlC328Owh30&feature

smart but it only works if theres one mine at a time ..

Not_Computer

Canada2277 Posts

January 21 2010 20:15 GMT

#33

I use attack move as Kwark outlined for general purposes... I find hold to work well in some cases though I do it instinctively so I can't remember for what off the top of my head. But most of the time attack move works fine.

coltrane

Chile988 Posts

January 21 2010 20:22 GMT

#34

I use always hold or focus fire.

I think goons are too dumb for the attack move.

beefhamburger

United States3962 Posts

January 21 2010 21:23 GMT

#35

If ever in a case of goons vs rines, hold is going to be much better than attack. Using attack causes goons farther back to run back into fire without attacking sometimes and the closer ones to move closer to rines even though they are within range. Hold prevents this from happening

shavingcream66

United States1219 Posts

January 21 2010 21:30 GMT

#36

i always thought it was Hold for goons and patrol for vults

Probe.

United States877 Posts

January 21 2010 22:22 GMT

#37

Hold position is better when backing up vs terran. Patrol and attack move is the same in that scenario. Goons will spread apart and you will lose you magic box.

3clipse

Canada2555 Posts

January 21 2010 22:48 GMT

#38

I generally use hold position when retreating. For other types of goon micro I switch between a-move and hold depending on the context. I never use patrol except when microing vultures.

aeroH

United States1034 Posts

January 21 2010 22:55 GMT

#39

what...? i always use hold position and never pressed patrol controlling dragoons

Itachii

Poland12466 Posts

January 21 2010 23:02 GMT

#40

On January 22 2010 04:33 never_toss wrote:
:O

Is the micro with goons ums available anywhere? I wanna try holding

http://rapidshare.com/files/94456958/DefuseTrain2.scm.html