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Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 00:32:34
December 30 2009 00:30 GMT
#1
As I've always been a competitive gamer and humongous nerd, I've owned a big number of expensive and supposedly great mice over the past few years, ranging from the Microsoft IntelliMouse to present-day Ikari Laser. Since I'm totally bored, I'll respond to IntoTheWow's inquiry and jot down some of my experiences.

Without further ado:


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Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0.

The IntelliMouse is famous in FPS circles. It's used by a large number of professional CS and CS:S gamers; in fact, more professional gamers use this mouse than any other mouse. This is often because they started out with it, though, and they stick with it because changing the gear they're so accustomed to as to be practically part of their muscle memory is a thoroughly bad idea.

Even so, when Microsoft released a new and updated version of the IntelliMouse a couple years back, I got excited and took one home.

It wasn't the gaming revolution of the hype machine. Oh, it was okay; the design is comfortable and it's responsive, but it's pretty big, and the side buttons are made of plastic bullshit and chips. It also has limited DPI, which was a big problem for me because I play with fairly high sensitivity, but it's not an issue for my SC-gaming friend whom I ended up donating it to. This was probably 18 months back, and unless I miss my guess he's still using it.

Main reason I didn't keep using it is because I couldn't use it with my abnormally high sensitivity. Most people should be fine with it, though.

If you like the IntelliMouse mouse design, but want a newer mouse, may I recommend:

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The Razer DeathAdder.

I won't lie: This is one of the best mice I've ever owned. The design is nice. It runs at 1800 DPI. The mouse itself is of good construction. Once again, the side buttons are flimsier than I would have liked, but it's a LOT better than on the IntelliMouse. The side buttons were also poorly placed for my grip, which was disappointing but not a deal breaker. It's also pretty big, and it feels a little empty. To be honest, when I bought it I was expecting a more compact and very lightweight mouse. Instead, it was big, and fairly lightweight.

Once I grew accustomed to it, though, it was good. It was never QUITE perfect, but for the most part I had no problems with the mouse. You know, until it died.

When you buy Razer, you pretty much take a chance. Their products malfunction. Most people still have early DeathAdders that work just fine. Others have theirs die or otherwise malfunction within a year. Mine lasted about nine months before the scroll wheel went to shit, and when the mouse itself finally died another couple months later I was happy, because it meant I could replace that overly expensive piece of computer hardware in good conscience.

Still, I might have bought a new DeathAdder if I wasn't so pissed off at Razer. I would say you can't go wrong with buying a DeathAdder, but if yours dies I won't be held accountable.

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Logitech MX518 Optical & G5 Laser

I'm cheating a little by lumping them together, but it's pretty much the same design with a different sensor. The original G5 Laser also had only one side button, which is total bullshit. Logitech has since "apologized" for their brilliant design decision by re-releasing the mouse as the G5 Blue which you can buy to replace the other one. Rejoice!

My G5 Laser gave me years, and when it finally went, it did so with a warning. I have not a single complaint regarding its construction, which is solid and firm. It's taller than the other mice, but not by much.

Certain design elements could have been improved, though. For example, your thumb is supposed to rest within that little grove below the side buttons. That's fine and all, but the bottom part of the mouse ends in a sharp edge for some stupid reason. If you like holding the mouse with your fingers close to the mouse pad, your thumb will be raw within the hour.

Okay, fine. The mouse wheel is noisy, and the cord is very stiff. There's your construction complaint.

The difference between optical and laser is mostly a question of mouse prediction. If you know what that is and absolutely, positively must have a mouse that doesn't have prediction (i.e. you're a hard core CS gamer), get the MX518. If it doesn't matter to you, I'd go for the laser variant.

In my opinion you can't really go wrong with either of these two. They're tried and tested.

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SteelSeries Ikari Laser.

I was on the fence as to whether or not I should get this one. It comes with a hefty price tag, and I've never had a mouse be so much better than my current functional mouse that it was worth it. In the end, I held off until my DeathAdder died, upon which I decided to go back to my favoured mouse design. I used the G5 for a while, then bought the Ikari.

This thing is a beast. Construction wise, it is excellent. The main buttons are responsive, the mouse wheel is barely audible, the cord isn't too stiff, the side buttons are solid if too easy to press.

Design wise, it's a G5 on steroids, if the G5 had a rest for your ring finger. The main issue with the Ikari comes with the thumb grove, which is much too high. It feels better than the G5 (and doesn't have the sharp edge of death), but your thumb is practically touching the side buttons at all times. I accidentally pressed mouse 4 once while editing this. To remedy this, I some times press downward with my thumb on the thumb rest, but if I do this it's hard to get a grip to lift the mouse without the thumb slipping and hitting the easily pressed side keys.

It's such a shame. If it wasn't for this one gripe, I would recommend the Ikari wholeheartedly over all other mice, because everything else is made of win. I can even press the mouse wheel button without ever accidentally scrolling, which most mice have a problem with.

If you can get your literal hands on an Ikari and perhaps try it out before you purchase, I recommend doing so, because if you find you have no problems with the thumb rest it's a fantastic and lightweight mouse. You'll have to decide if it's worth the price tag, though.

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Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
December 30 2009 00:34 GMT
#2
I have a Diamondback and a MZ518, though the diamondback started off as a good mouse it became very loud and the buttons very stiff. These days I just use my logitech, which is bad for starcraft because its such a heavy mouse.
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Ducci
Profile Joined April 2009
United States588 Posts
December 30 2009 00:35 GMT
#3
I love my g5 laser
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
December 30 2009 00:38 GMT
#4
Just got the death adder for Christmas, and i freaking love it. Amazing mouse. Hope mine lasts much much longer than yours lol :<
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 00:41:21
December 30 2009 00:39 GMT
#5
The Ikari Laser has problems at low sens (like all laser mice) and they fucked up the lift off distance on the optical version.

More Quake players probably swear by WMO1.1 than IME3.0, but those are definitely the two most popular of all time among serious FPS players. I'd wager MX518 rounds out the top 3.
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Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
December 30 2009 00:41 GMT
#6
On December 30 2009 09:39 Jibba wrote:
The Ikari Laser has problems at low sens (like all laser mice) and they fucked up the lift off distance on the optical version.


Really? I should probably add this, but as I play on fairly high sens for everything, it hasn't been a problem for me. They did fuck up the lift-off distance on the optical version, though, and I wouldn't recommend it over the laser version for anything.
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
December 30 2009 00:42 GMT
#7
A lot of these high-end gaming mice just aren't worth it, too overpriced and don't really make much of a difference.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
December 30 2009 00:43 GMT
#8
On December 30 2009 09:42 writer22816 wrote:
A lot of these high-end gaming mice just aren't worth it, too overpriced and don't really make much of a difference.


Disagree.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
December 30 2009 00:43 GMT
#9
For those who don't know, the lift off distance is exactly what it sounds like. When you need to lift the mouse up as you get near the edge of your pad (or just to get more comfortable), you don't want a high lift off distance or else it'll mess up where you're aiming.
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
December 30 2009 00:55 GMT
#10
On December 30 2009 09:43 Aylear wrote:
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On December 30 2009 09:42 writer22816 wrote:
A lot of these high-end gaming mice just aren't worth it, too overpriced and don't really make much of a difference.


Disagree.


ok then, explain how every virtually every progamer uses classics like LMO/G1/1.1a/3.0 instead of the new junk that just came out? You might argue that these players are too accustomed to their previous mice but if the new mice actually made a difference with their 12379481747034 dpi and god knows what other bullshit they tout, people would actually switch to them.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
December 30 2009 01:01 GMT
#11
On December 30 2009 09:42 writer22816 wrote:
A lot of these high-end gaming mice just aren't worth it, too overpriced and don't really make much of a difference.

You probably never tried a high end gaming mice.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
b3h47pte
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1317 Posts
December 30 2009 01:03 GMT
#12
On December 30 2009 09:55 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 09:43 Aylear wrote:
On December 30 2009 09:42 writer22816 wrote:
A lot of these high-end gaming mice just aren't worth it, too overpriced and don't really make much of a difference.


Disagree.


ok then, explain how every virtually every progamer uses classics like LMO/G1/1.1a/3.0 instead of the new junk that just came out? You might argue that these players are too accustomed to their previous mice but if the new mice actually made a difference with their 12379481747034 dpi and god knows what other bullshit they tout, people would actually switch to them.


are we talking about just Starcraft pro-gamers or other pro-gamers as well because i think a higher DPI would help FPS players much more than RTS players.
Hiphopapotamus
Profile Joined July 2009
United States121 Posts
December 30 2009 01:32 GMT
#13
On December 30 2009 10:03 b3h47pte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 09:55 writer22816 wrote:
On December 30 2009 09:43 Aylear wrote:
On December 30 2009 09:42 writer22816 wrote:
A lot of these high-end gaming mice just aren't worth it, too overpriced and don't really make much of a difference.


Disagree.


ok then, explain how every virtually every progamer uses classics like LMO/G1/1.1a/3.0 instead of the new junk that just came out? You might argue that these players are too accustomed to their previous mice but if the new mice actually made a difference with their 12379481747034 dpi and god knows what other bullshit they tout, people would actually switch to them.


are we talking about just Starcraft pro-gamers or other pro-gamers as well because i think a higher DPI would help FPS players much more than RTS players.


Yet, in actuality, it doesn't.
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
December 30 2009 01:56 GMT
#14
logitech g3 no comment
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Jaxtyk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States600 Posts
December 30 2009 02:00 GMT
#15
sorry but an expensive 60$+ with a tag [gaming] mouse wont make u a pro gamer.
To tell the truth....I could beat anyone in the world.
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
December 30 2009 02:29 GMT
#16
DPI is overrated yo. Basic mice for the win!
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
December 30 2009 02:29 GMT
#17
also: don't buy up the g3s all over the net I only have 3 in stock
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Methos
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States206 Posts
December 30 2009 02:30 GMT
#18
I don't buy gaming mouses since they're always really, really big and I don't work well with big mouses. Also it's expensive haha
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
December 30 2009 02:47 GMT
#19
Razer DeathAdder. Beautiful.
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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
December 30 2009 02:48 GMT
#20
I can't use the small mice that most people on TL use for more then an hour. I have used a lot of mice and the only one that is comfortable for long periods of time for me is the mx518.
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