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Simple Infutable Reason Why ZVP is IMBALANCED

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WheelOfTime
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada331 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-30 04:56:41
November 29 2009 05:56 GMT
#1
Protoss player by heart, C+ ish on iccup.

Good PVP/PVT record and horrible PVZ record.

My ZVT and ZVZ are MAX D+/C-. However my ZVP is like C+.

I play with friends who are also around C/C+, and I can beat the C P players with my noob Z offrace most of the time, I just learned the 12 hatch/overpool openings into 3 hatch spire into 5 hatch hydra. All I have to do is scout actively to make sure they play standard or else react accordingly by adding sunks/lings. They can't beat me, unless I majorly fuck up by suiciding like 5 OLs or fail epically at storm dodging.

Other way around in PVZ, I try my hardest and still lose to some D+ friends.

So in conclusion, I put a lot of practice into PVZ, yet suck and lose to D+ players. I learn 1 standard BO for zerg (albeit a very good one, one that makes the game IMBA ZVP), and I start to rape C Protoss players left and right.

ZVP IMBA. QED.

Don't even argue with me.

Erm... typo in title. Irrefutable is what I meant. X_X


On November 30 2009 12:26 EsX_Raptor wrote:
i don't see any reason, i just see you telling us that you can beat your opponents, but you don't say HOW.


No.

I'm saying I've been playing PVZ for years, constantly TRYING to improve i.e. watching pro vods, practicing BOs in singleplayer, dissecting loss replays etc. Yet I suck hard and lose to D+ zergs while I beat C+ protosses and terrans.

Yet I've been practicing and playing a zerg BO for about 2 months, and somehow I can defeat C+ protosses with it. 1a2a3a hydras for the win.

That's HOW.

*
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-29 05:58:03
November 29 2009 05:57 GMT
#2
ur bad

My PvZ is like C/C+, and i'm a terran player. (no sarcasm)
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blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
November 29 2009 05:59 GMT
#3
a little brash, but he is basically right
zvp completely imba no questions no doubt about it yeps

stupid zergs flying around everywhere, we've had enough zvz finals already =( =(
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Cu(oCo)
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Italy358 Posts
November 29 2009 06:06 GMT
#4
destination is imba. not pvz
Goons? just vulture toys 휴.휴
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
November 29 2009 06:08 GMT
#5
On November 29 2009 14:57 YPang wrote:
ur bad

My PvZ is like C/C+, and i'm a terran player. (no sarcasm)

no it's not lol
more like D+ you stinking liar
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-29 06:10:20
November 29 2009 06:09 GMT
#6
On November 29 2009 14:56 WheelOfTime wrote:
Protoss player by heart, C+ ish on iccup.

Good PVP/PVT record and horrible PVZ record.

My ZVT and ZVZ are MAX D+/C-. However my ZVP is like C+.

I play with friends who are also around C/C+, and I can beat the C P players with my noob Z offrace most of the time, I just learned the 12 hatch/overpool openings into 3 hatch spire into 5 hatch hydra. All I have to do is scout actively to make sure they play standard or else react accordingly by adding sunks/lings. They can't beat me, unless I majorly fuck up by suiciding like 5 OLs or fail epically at storm dodging.

Other way around in PVZ, I try my hardest and still lose to some D+ friends.

So in conclusion, I put a lot of practice into PVZ, yet suck and lose to D+ players. I learn 1 standard BO for zerg (albeit a very good one, one that makes the game IMBA ZVP), and I start to rape C Protoss players left and right.

ZVP IMBA. QED.

Don't even argue with me.

Erm... typo in title. Irrefutable is what I meant. X_X


Or...y'know...thats just the way it is?
My PvT and PvZ are both WAY above my PvP atm...
PvP RIDICULOUS IMBA D: <
but seriously the thing that causes the imbalance at the highest levels wouldnt apply to C level games probably, its just a coincidence.

On November 29 2009 14:57 YPang wrote:
ur bad

My PvZ is like C/C+, and i'm a terran player. (no sarcasm)


My TvT beat FBH (no sarcasm)
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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-29 06:10:35
November 29 2009 06:10 GMT
#7
ignore this post.
May the BeSt man win.
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
November 29 2009 06:10 GMT
#8
My PvZ is prob around C level, PvT C- level, PvP barley scrapes C-. I stopped playing PvP cuz it so gay and swapped to ZvP cuz its so ez :D
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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
November 29 2009 06:10 GMT
#9
Pvt PvZ PvZ imba mutalisks fucking zerg protoss PvZ C/C+ shitty ZvP fuck
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
November 29 2009 06:11 GMT
#10
"hard" != "imbalanced"
brood war for life, brood war forever
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-29 06:15:42
November 29 2009 06:15 GMT
#11
INFUTABLE ISN'T A WORD!!!!

Edit: Didn't see you edit...
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-29 06:19:05
November 29 2009 06:17 GMT
#12
holy crap meeple i've seen you post so much in every thread today

edit: zomg youve done almost 700posts in the last week, i think you may have broken a couple of kona's records
| MLIA | the weather sucks dick here
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
November 29 2009 06:19 GMT
#13
Reavers are the solution to your woes, seriously.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Cu(oCo)
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Italy358 Posts
November 29 2009 06:28 GMT
#14
On November 29 2009 15:19 d3_crescentia wrote:
Reavers are the solution to your woes, seriously.

if they dont messing around everything with they ai yes they are a truly solution. a powered reaver can eat a larva with 1 hit. what more you want P
Goons? just vulture toys 휴.휴
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
November 29 2009 06:29 GMT
#15
On November 29 2009 15:08 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2009 14:57 YPang wrote:
ur bad

My PvZ is like C/C+, and i'm a terran player. (no sarcasm)

no it's not lol
more like D+ you stinking liar


Damn, called out.

Anyway to the OP, ZvP is not imba... try learning a timing push that messes them up before they get their 5 hatches pumping. Obviously you are spending too much time on zvp and not training enough time pvz. And if you are C+ zvp you should know when your 5hatch is weak for a counter attack and then apply that to your pvz. Just because you are good at zvp and not pvz doesn't make the mu imba. Look at the pros. Learn a timing attack.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
November 29 2009 06:35 GMT
#16
On November 29 2009 15:09 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2009 14:56 WheelOfTime wrote:
Protoss player by heart, C+ ish on iccup.

Good PVP/PVT record and horrible PVZ record.

My ZVT and ZVZ are MAX D+/C-. However my ZVP is like C+.

I play with friends who are also around C/C+, and I can beat the C P players with my noob Z offrace most of the time, I just learned the 12 hatch/overpool openings into 3 hatch spire into 5 hatch hydra. All I have to do is scout actively to make sure they play standard or else react accordingly by adding sunks/lings. They can't beat me, unless I majorly fuck up by suiciding like 5 OLs or fail epically at storm dodging.

Other way around in PVZ, I try my hardest and still lose to some D+ friends.

So in conclusion, I put a lot of practice into PVZ, yet suck and lose to D+ players. I learn 1 standard BO for zerg (albeit a very good one, one that makes the game IMBA ZVP), and I start to rape C Protoss players left and right.

ZVP IMBA. QED.

Don't even argue with me.

Erm... typo in title. Irrefutable is what I meant. X_X


Or...y'know...thats just the way it is?
My PvT and PvZ are both WAY above my PvP atm...
PvP RIDICULOUS IMBA D: <
but seriously the thing that causes the imbalance at the highest levels wouldnt apply to C level games probably, its just a coincidence.

Show nested quote +
On November 29 2009 14:57 YPang wrote:
ur bad

My PvZ is like C/C+, and i'm a terran player. (no sarcasm)


My TvT beat FBH (no sarcasm)


PvP is imba my brother I go like 15%.
We need to start a thread or something.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
November 29 2009 06:53 GMT
#17
On November 29 2009 15:17 blue_arrow wrote:
holy crap meeple i've seen you post so much in every thread today

edit: zomg youve done almost 700posts in the last week, i think you may have broken a couple of kona's records

Not even close. 1539. (no sarcasm)
Jaedong
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
November 29 2009 06:54 GMT
#18
meh, PvZ can be extremely frustrating sometimes but your "reason" is just a personal statement of your own skill levels in various match-ups and that's a pretty stupid argument.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 29 2009 06:56 GMT
#19
you lost because you are bad

i dont see how this makes it an imbalanced matchup
RIP Aaliyah
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 29 2009 07:00 GMT
#20
On November 29 2009 15:11 Crunchums wrote:
"hard" != "imbalanced"

public static String imba(String opponentrace, String userrace)
{
if((opponentrace == "zerg") && (userrace == "protoss"))
return "GG";
else
{
return win("1a2a3a");
}
}
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