|
So I have been practicing quite a bit, even though I was busy with lots of exams. But currently I have been just sort of angry at my voice for like not being in sync with the type of music I like. I mean I listen to stuff like breaking Benjamin, and because the singer's voice is so different (He is sort of a bass) I am either an Alto or a Sopranos :/. Could like someone give me advice on what might I be able to do to like get over this thing. I am putting heart and soul in this, but ugh I don't have a bassy voice, I sort of do Muse well and radiohead but breaking Benjamin type is so hard to emulate and it goes out of my voice range for some reason. Any tips?
Update: So I have been searching around trying to find good songs to practice on, when I started getting into radiohead. I also felt that their songs go well for my voice. In addition I ditched Audacity for this program that is a 100000000000000 better, really clear voice recording and awesome enhancements. So I present you my new recording, personally i felt this is the best one so far 
Karma Police: http://www.2shared.com/file/9564151/e52d2754/Karma_Police.html
An Update on the same song, Karma Police! :http://www.2shared.com/file/9941225/959ba8fa/Karma_Police2.html
 
|
can u do a death metal growl? ;o
|
On November 27 2009 09:17 HeavOnEarth wrote:
can u do a death metal growl? ;o
Nope =[, I can try but its not that deathy lol
|
well u kinda use that to make the deepish undertone of his voice
at least that's the way i do it, although if u dont do growls correctly it messes up your throat, and even if u do it fairly correct it'll still mess up your singing voice, partially.
so up to you really if u want to learn how, i can give you advice if u want.
but honestly i'd rather have a good choir-ish voice then the mix of the two ;o
|
|
|
On November 27 2009 09:02 DragoonPK wrote:
So I have been practicing quite a bit, even though I was busy with lots of exams. But currently I have been just sort of angry at my voice for like not being in sync with the type of music I like. I mean I listen to stuff like breaking Benjamin, and because the singer's voice is so different (He is sort of a bass) I am either an Alto or a Sopranos :/. Could like someone give me advice on what might I be able to do to like get over this thing. I am putting heart and soul in this, but ugh I don't have a bassy voice, I sort of do Muse well and radiohead but breaking Benjamin type is so hard to emulate and it goes out of my voice range for some reason. Any tips?
What is your vocal range? (Specifically, note to note)
You can expand range to a degree with proper training, but ultimately it is a physical limitation with which you are stuck. That doesn't mean you shouldn't develop your voice though - you can always find material for your range.
I am in the opposite situation - I'm a baritone and always wishing I had higher notes. You should look for voice teachers in your area. Trying to force notes you don't yet have can result in injury.
Edit (Listened to recording): You are not a soprano or an alto. I don't think you are even a tenor - probably a baritone. You probably just got the terms confused. So your question isn't really about range - you just want to sound more rock-ish I gather. I have no idea how this might be accomplished, so I reiterate that maybe you should try to get a teacher.
In the meantime, just keep practicing and recording (without straining your voice) and try to find your own way to make the songs sound good, within the limitations of your own voice.
|
hahahahahaha i like how u skip every metal part......XD
meh its sorta hard to judge just by listening, however i'm feeling that you can do better, if you use your own voice more. I know its actually hard to find your own voice nowadays because of outer influnces, but i dont feel like thats your "real" voice. Sounds a bit high but its thats okay if its your default voice. I've heard a lot of great higher-pitched male artists.
|
On November 27 2009 09:56 Freyr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2009 09:02 DragoonPK wrote:
So I have been practicing quite a bit, even though I was busy with lots of exams. But currently I have been just sort of angry at my voice for like not being in sync with the type of music I like. I mean I listen to stuff like breaking Benjamin, and because the singer's voice is so different (He is sort of a bass) I am either an Alto or a Sopranos :/. Could like someone give me advice on what might I be able to do to like get over this thing. I am putting heart and soul in this, but ugh I don't have a bassy voice, I sort of do Muse well and radiohead but breaking Benjamin type is so hard to emulate and it goes out of my voice range for some reason. Any tips? What is your vocal range? (Specifically, note to note) You can expand range to a degree with proper training, but ultimately it is a physical limitation with which you are stuck. That doesn't mean you shouldn't develop your voice though - you can always find material for your range. I am in the opposite situation - I'm a baritone and always wishing I had higher notes. You should look for voice teachers in your area. Trying to force notes you don't yet have can result in injury. Edit (Listened to recording): You are not a soprano or an alto. I don't think you are even a tenor - probably a baritone. You probably just got the terms confused. So your question isn't really about range - you just want to sound more rock-ish I gather. I have no idea how this might be accomplished, so I reiterate that maybe you should try to get a teacher. In the meantime, just keep practicing and recording (without straining your voice) and try to find your own way to make the songs sound good, within the limitations of your own voice.
oh ok, cuz I got this CDs from this guy online called gault areus, he has some videos on youtube to help. But i got his CDs and most of the comments say that he is pretty damn good and they got good results out of the training , hell I did it for about a week and I started sustaining high notes easier. But I have been sloppy do to exams. So i Think I should just follow him and try for a while.
|
there's guitar pro files , tabs, basically for a lot of popular vocals
you could take a piano or guitar and play along with the notes and sing them and try to build your range a bit but like freyr said, it's rather minimal.
i'm a tenor myself and i usually just take most songs down an octave
i can hit a low D though. was a bass role in choir, mostly because i was the only guy in there ;o
|
fuck yeah breaking benjamin!
|
I think I have to work on expanding my vocal range in order to hit higher notes easier and more comfortable. I will keep trying! ^^
|
Updated please listen and comment!! :D
|
I like the tones of the song, but for alot of the higher parts have a nasally quality. Keep going though, you have much more talent than me!
|
On November 30 2009 15:00 meeple wrote:
I like the tones of the song, but for alot of the higher parts have a nasally quality. Keep going though, you have much more talent than me!
So you are saying I should have a nasally quality for the higher parts? Thanks man Ill keep going on ^^!
|
|
|
I can't think of a situation where a nasal quality would sound nice, so I'm going to say you should stay away from that altogether. I've been meaning to catch up with your blogs; I'll give this a listen when I get home tonight.
Freyr, you're telling me >_<. I have the range of a bass (~E2-E4) but I sound nothing like one. What's up with that?!
EDIT: Just listened to it. Is the range of this song okay with you? I agree that you do sound more nasally in the higher sections. Only a few places were a bit pitchy. Nice work.
|
Ypang is right. It doesn't seem like you're using your own voice at times, and it seems to crack a bit at the lower notes. You're probably using too much support. Low notes should require little to no support at all. Try to use as little as you think you can get away with, and see how it goes. Other than that, I think this was a huge improvement from your last upload, and it was actually quite comfy to listen to for the most part. Keep it up, man. :D
|
On December 01 2009 02:41 Chromyne wrote:
I can't think of a situation where a nasal quality would sound nice, so I'm going to say you should stay away from that altogether. I've been meaning to catch up with your blogs; I'll give this a listen when I get home tonight.
Freyr, you're telling me >_<. I have the range of a bass (~E2-E4) but I sound nothing like one. What's up with that?!
EDIT: Just listened to it. Is the range of this song okay with you? I agree that you do sound more nasally in the higher sections. Only a few places were a bit pitchy. Nice work.
Yeah this vocal range is the most comfortable I am with so far, I feel that Thom's tenor voice really fits my voice. I working on improving it!
|
On December 04 2009 14:50 ludic123 wrote:Ypang is right. It doesn't seem like you're using your own voice at times, and it seems to crack a bit at the lower notes. You're probably using too much support. Low notes should require little to no support at all. Try to use as little as you think you can get away with, and see how it goes. Other than that, I think this was a huge improvement from your last upload, and it was actually quite comfy to listen to for the most part. Keep it up, man. :D
Thanks man, this is great to hear from people to finanly sort of like what I sing, I actually think I improved quite alot from where I started! I will keep on the work and hope I become alot better :D!
|
Very few guys can reach the alto range. If you can sing high you're a tenor. If you can sing higher you're a contratenor. If you can sing like Adam Lambert you're probably in the alto range.
|
I am pretty sure I am tenor.
|
Updated!, Check it out as usual please ! ^^
|
|
|
Mmm, I've taken some singing lessons but not enough to really offer you any real quality advice.
But you are definitely need to improve your air control and using your diaphragm and engaging it. You are also trying too hard to imitate another person's voice, let yours grow first and then adapt that style of music to your voice, not the other way around or you will always feel restrained and it'll sound forced.
You should probably seek a singing teacher if you are truly serious about this, I think you have developed the wrong mindset and therefore some bad habits in your singing as well. With the proper vocal training you should be able to achieve what you want to sing and eliminate those bad habits.
There are some books and online/take home kits but getting a singing teacher is best.
|
On December 13 2009 13:21 ToyotaDemon wrote:
Mmm, I've taken some singing lessons but not enough to really offer you any real quality advice.
But you are definitely need to improve your air control and using your diaphragm and engaging it. You are also trying too hard to imitate another person's voice, let yours grow first and then adapt that style of music to your voice, not the other way around or you will always feel restrained and it'll sound forced.
You should probably seek a singing teacher if you are truly serious about this, I think you have developed the wrong mindset and therefore some bad habits in your singing as well. With the proper vocal training you should be able to achieve what you want to sing and eliminate those bad habits.
There are some books and online/take home kits but getting a singing teacher is best.
Yeah but like how can I distinguish between my voice and what I am copying :/! I cant get a teacher, its too expensive and I dont think I can afford it =[. I got some Practice CDs etc. I think they might help but could you like explain how can I distinguish!
|
I dont really have too much to add other than that I agree that the song you posted doesnt sound like "your voice", but more like you're trying to imitate someone else or something...i dunno it's hard to explain but it just doesn't sound completely natural. I dont know what to suggest to solve this, but keep up the good work and keep practicing! just trying to give some honest feedback
|
Ok from what I've heard, you're not really a tenor (yet). Good tenors can switch between their low voice and high voice, without too much difference in tone character. Your high voice sounds very different from your low voice, that would mean you wouldn't make a great tenor. It will get better with some training though.
I myself am singing exclusively in my high voice. Unfortunately for you, there's no room for countertenor singers in pop music. I sing opera by Händel and other music by Bach.
The advice I could give you, is try doing glissando's from your highest note (in your high voice) to your lowest note in your low voice, and then back up. This helps smoothening the breakpoint in your voice. If you practise this enough, and can get your high voice to flow over in your low voice smoothly, that'll be a great step for you. Not every voice can do this though, I myself can't.
About the low notes, try not to try too hard. Just relax your throat and don't move your chin to your chest when trying these low notes (this is something every beginner does). Just remember that every voice is unique and you may just be unable to ever sing those low bass notes.
Good luck in your singing!
EDIT:
@adeun: Don't get confused. Countertenor is the term for a male singer singing higher than a tenor. This includes male alto's, mezzo's, and soprano's. After hearing the recording, he could be a countertenor. Depends on how comfortable he feels using his high voice and how high/low he can sing with it. But again, the countertenor voice isn't really suited for pop music. You hear some people using it, like Muse, but that's very exceptional.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
