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DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 02:07:12
November 27 2009 00:02 GMT
#1
So I have been practicing quite a bit, even though I was busy with lots of exams. But currently I have been just sort of angry at my voice for like not being in sync with the type of music I like. I mean I listen to stuff like breaking Benjamin, and because the singer's voice is so different (He is sort of a bass) I am either an Alto or a Sopranos :/. Could like someone give me advice on what might I be able to do to like get over this thing. I am putting heart and soul in this, but ugh I don't have a bassy voice, I sort of do Muse well and radiohead but breaking Benjamin type is so hard to emulate and it goes out of my voice range for some reason. Any tips?

Update: So I have been searching around trying to find good songs to practice on, when I started getting into radiohead. I also felt that their songs go well for my voice. In addition I ditched Audacity for this program that is a 100000000000000 better, really clear voice recording and awesome enhancements. So I present you my new recording, personally i felt this is the best one so far
Karma Police: http://www.2shared.com/file/9564151/e52d2754/Karma_Police.html

An Update on the same song, Karma Police! :http://www.2shared.com/file/9941225/959ba8fa/Karma_Police2.html

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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
November 27 2009 00:17 GMT
#2
can u do a death metal growl? ;o
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
November 27 2009 00:22 GMT
#3
On November 27 2009 09:17 HeavOnEarth wrote:
can u do a death metal growl? ;o

Nope =[, I can try but its not that deathy lol
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-27 00:27:39
November 27 2009 00:26 GMT
#4
well u kinda use that to make the deepish undertone of his voice
at least that's the way i do it, although if u dont do growls correctly it messes up your throat, and even if u do it fairly correct it'll still mess up your singing voice, partially.
so up to you really if u want to learn how, i can give you advice if u want.
but honestly i'd rather have a good choir-ish voice then the mix of the two ;o
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
November 27 2009 00:50 GMT
#5
Hear this and judge : http://www.2shared.com/file/9474532/db4b83a1/dd_online.html
Freyr
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States500 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-27 01:04:10
November 27 2009 00:56 GMT
#6
On November 27 2009 09:02 DragoonPK wrote:
So I have been practicing quite a bit, even though I was busy with lots of exams. But currently I have been just sort of angry at my voice for like not being in sync with the type of music I like. I mean I listen to stuff like breaking Benjamin, and because the singer's voice is so different (He is sort of a bass) I am either an Alto or a Sopranos :/. Could like someone give me advice on what might I be able to do to like get over this thing. I am putting heart and soul in this, but ugh I don't have a bassy voice, I sort of do Muse well and radiohead but breaking Benjamin type is so hard to emulate and it goes out of my voice range for some reason. Any tips?


What is your vocal range? (Specifically, note to note)

You can expand range to a degree with proper training, but ultimately it is a physical limitation with which you are stuck. That doesn't mean you shouldn't develop your voice though - you can always find material for your range.

I am in the opposite situation - I'm a baritone and always wishing I had higher notes. You should look for voice teachers in your area. Trying to force notes you don't yet have can result in injury.

Edit (Listened to recording): You are not a soprano or an alto. I don't think you are even a tenor - probably a baritone. You probably just got the terms confused. So your question isn't really about range - you just want to sound more rock-ish I gather. I have no idea how this might be accomplished, so I reiterate that maybe you should try to get a teacher.

In the meantime, just keep practicing and recording (without straining your voice) and try to find your own way to make the songs sound good, within the limitations of your own voice.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
November 27 2009 01:01 GMT
#7
hahahahahaha i like how u skip every metal part......XD

meh its sorta hard to judge just by listening, however i'm feeling that you can do better, if you use your own voice more. I know its actually hard to find your own voice nowadays because of outer influnces, but i dont feel like thats your "real" voice. Sounds a bit high but its thats okay if its your default voice. I've heard a lot of great higher-pitched male artists.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
November 27 2009 01:11 GMT
#8
On November 27 2009 09:56 Freyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2009 09:02 DragoonPK wrote:
So I have been practicing quite a bit, even though I was busy with lots of exams. But currently I have been just sort of angry at my voice for like not being in sync with the type of music I like. I mean I listen to stuff like breaking Benjamin, and because the singer's voice is so different (He is sort of a bass) I am either an Alto or a Sopranos :/. Could like someone give me advice on what might I be able to do to like get over this thing. I am putting heart and soul in this, but ugh I don't have a bassy voice, I sort of do Muse well and radiohead but breaking Benjamin type is so hard to emulate and it goes out of my voice range for some reason. Any tips?


What is your vocal range? (Specifically, note to note)

You can expand range to a degree with proper training, but ultimately it is a physical limitation with which you are stuck. That doesn't mean you shouldn't develop your voice though - you can always find material for your range.

I am in the opposite situation - I'm a baritone and always wishing I had higher notes. You should look for voice teachers in your area. Trying to force notes you don't yet have can result in injury.

Edit (Listened to recording): You are not a soprano or an alto. I don't think you are even a tenor - probably a baritone. You probably just got the terms confused. So your question isn't really about range - you just want to sound more rock-ish I gather. I have no idea how this might be accomplished, so I reiterate that maybe you should try to get a teacher.

In the meantime, just keep practicing and recording (without straining your voice) and try to find your own way to make the songs sound good, within the limitations of your own voice.


oh ok, cuz I got this CDs from this guy online called gault areus, he has some videos on youtube to help. But i got his CDs and most of the comments say that he is pretty damn good and they got good results out of the training , hell I did it for about a week and I started sustaining high notes easier. But I have been sloppy do to exams. So i Think I should just follow him and try for a while.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
November 27 2009 01:51 GMT
#9
there's guitar pro files , tabs, basically for a lot of popular vocals
you could take a piano or guitar and play along with the notes and sing them and try to build your range a bit but like freyr said, it's rather minimal.
i'm a tenor myself and i usually just take most songs down an octave
i can hit a low D though. was a bass role in choir, mostly because i was the only guy in there ;o
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 27 2009 01:53 GMT
#10
fuck yeah breaking benjamin!
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
November 27 2009 07:37 GMT
#11
I think I have to work on expanding my vocal range in order to hit higher notes easier and more comfortable. I will keep trying! ^^
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
November 30 2009 05:51 GMT
#12
Updated please listen and comment!! :D
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 30 2009 06:00 GMT
#13
I like the tones of the song, but for alot of the higher parts have a nasally quality. Keep going though, you have much more talent than me!
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
November 30 2009 06:16 GMT
#14
On November 30 2009 15:00 meeple wrote:
I like the tones of the song, but for alot of the higher parts have a nasally quality. Keep going though, you have much more talent than me!

So you are saying I should have a nasally quality for the higher parts? Thanks man Ill keep going on ^^!
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
November 30 2009 17:34 GMT
#15
bump!
Chromyne
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada561 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 01:49:39
November 30 2009 17:41 GMT
#16
I can't think of a situation where a nasal quality would sound nice, so I'm going to say you should stay away from that altogether. I've been meaning to catch up with your blogs; I'll give this a listen when I get home tonight.

Freyr, you're telling me >_<. I have the range of a bass (~E2-E4) but I sound nothing like one. What's up with that?!

EDIT: Just listened to it. Is the range of this song okay with you? I agree that you do sound more nasally in the higher sections. Only a few places were a bit pitchy. Nice work.
Soli Deo gloria.
ludic123
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway161 Posts
December 04 2009 05:50 GMT
#17
Ypang is right. It doesn't seem like you're using your own voice at times, and it seems to crack a bit at the lower notes. You're probably using too much support. Low notes should require little to no support at all. Try to use as little as you think you can get away with, and see how it goes. Other than that, I think this was a huge improvement from your last upload, and it was actually quite comfy to listen to for the most part. Keep it up, man. :D
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
December 04 2009 06:44 GMT
#18
On December 01 2009 02:41 Chromyne wrote:
I can't think of a situation where a nasal quality would sound nice, so I'm going to say you should stay away from that altogether. I've been meaning to catch up with your blogs; I'll give this a listen when I get home tonight.

Freyr, you're telling me >_<. I have the range of a bass (~E2-E4) but I sound nothing like one. What's up with that?!

EDIT: Just listened to it. Is the range of this song okay with you? I agree that you do sound more nasally in the higher sections. Only a few places were a bit pitchy. Nice work.


Yeah this vocal range is the most comfortable I am with so far, I feel that Thom's tenor voice really fits my voice. I working on improving it!
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
December 04 2009 06:48 GMT
#19
On December 04 2009 14:50 ludic123 wrote:
Ypang is right. It doesn't seem like you're using your own voice at times, and it seems to crack a bit at the lower notes. You're probably using too much support. Low notes should require little to no support at all. Try to use as little as you think you can get away with, and see how it goes. Other than that, I think this was a huge improvement from your last upload, and it was actually quite comfy to listen to for the most part. Keep it up, man. :D


Thanks man, this is great to hear from people to finanly sort of like what I sing, I actually think I improved quite alot from where I started! I will keep on the work and hope I become alot better :D!
aleun
Profile Joined November 2009
United States27 Posts
December 04 2009 07:48 GMT
#20
Very few guys can reach the alto range. If you can sing high you're a tenor. If you can sing higher you're a contratenor. If you can sing like Adam Lambert you're probably in the alto range.
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