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[Spoiler] Yellow's defiler style

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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-25 04:20:30
November 25 2009 04:20 GMT
#1
SPOILER OMFG
If you havn't seen the boxer vs yellow game yet please go watch it, it's in the small vod thread so you won't get spoiled. If you miss it you might as well dismiss yourself from a starcraft fan.









































Anyways his defilers are SO GOOD!!! holy shit!! I've seen alot of people throw down 2 swarms (Jaedong for instance) and maybe swarm THEN a plague. But KONG opt to throw plauge first then swarm. IMO this is far superior as the units will be clumped for the plague, whereas if you swarm THEN plague, the terran will already be retreating and you won't catch any.
Just watch the game and see how brutal it is, each time a plague go off it catches EVERYTHING underneath it, none of it is wasted. It's like a good storm. And even if the units retreat a bit out of the swarm range it doesn't even matter as the 1hp units simply pops like bubbles.

Any thoughts? I've yet to see people throw plague/swarm in such fashion and so deliberately. If you watch the mid-game battles almost 80% of the defilers engagement was plauge->swarm order.

Discuss

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Zortch
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada635 Posts
November 25 2009 04:31 GMT
#2
Something that comes to mind is that if you get the swarm is likely more essential than the plague.
So making sure you get the swarm off before the defiler dies and then going for a plague may be a safer option. Also, how good is plague if you don't follow up with attacking the units?
Plague + swarm then just defending under the swarm while the terran runs away for example. How much damage has the plague done? It hasn't helped your defense really because you have the swarm anyways.
It will deplete medic energy, so thats good and plaguing vessels and tanks and clearly good, but if its just mnm is it worth it?
Respect is everything. ~ARchon
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4216 Posts
November 25 2009 04:35 GMT
#3
FUCK OFF

Video has been removed.....
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 25 2009 04:52 GMT
#4
I really didn't think the winner would win.

I'm so glad he did, omg.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-25 05:03:31
November 25 2009 04:56 GMT
#5
On November 25 2009 13:31 Zortch wrote:
Something that comes to mind is that if you get the swarm is likely more essential than the plague.
So making sure you get the swarm off before the defiler dies and then going for a plague may be a safer option. Also, how good is plague if you don't follow up with attacking the units?
Plague + swarm then just defending under the swarm while the terran runs away for example. How much damage has the plague done? It hasn't helped your defense really because you have the swarm anyways.
It will deplete medic energy, so thats good and plaguing vessels and tanks and clearly good, but if its just mnm is it worth it?


Yes it's worth it vs just mm...how they gonna kill the defiler if it's just mm? That's what vessel is for. Then they just consume 2 lings and they're good to go again.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Sentient66
Profile Joined July 2009
United States651 Posts
November 25 2009 04:57 GMT
#6
Video was removed?!?!
seNsiX.421
TheFallofTroy
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada780 Posts
November 25 2009 05:07 GMT
#7
On November 25 2009 13:57 Sentient66 wrote:
Video was removed?!?!


It was removed, but now its up on jon747.

All I can say about that game is that I enjoyed every minute of it.
^_^V
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-25 05:12:44
November 25 2009 05:12 GMT
#8
if you miss the plague you're fucked, or if terran dodges, boxer might have been too busy building nukes to dodge.

if you miss the swarm, no big deal.

chill explains this well on his zvt fpvod on blue storm, let me find it

Marine50
Profile Joined September 2007
Australia1764 Posts
November 25 2009 05:17 GMT
#9
(Z)YellOw > Chill
IRIS FIGHTING!!!
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 25 2009 05:17 GMT
#10
It was kinda ballsy, since if he missed he just wasted all that energy, but Yellow just plays it like that. I don't recommend you try it at home.
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
November 25 2009 05:23 GMT
#11
I wet my pants during the match.... it was totally awesome. The crowd's cheer was louder than an OSL finals : D
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 25 2009 05:30 GMT
#12
On November 25 2009 14:17 Marine50 wrote:
(Z)YellOw > Chill


it's not about skill, it's about style. chill is conservative while yellow ranges from aggressive to hyper-aggressive.

conservative zergs always use swarm over plague since it's safer, aggressive zergs want to eliminate a lot of units fast which plague does.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
November 25 2009 05:52 GMT
#13
On November 25 2009 14:17 meeple wrote:
It was kinda ballsy, since if he missed he just wasted all that energy, but Yellow just plays it like that. I don't recommend you try it at home.


he doesn't miss!! it was exploding red juice all over boxer's army!!! <3 <3
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
November 25 2009 09:23 GMT
#14
Yellow was so ridiculously ahead by the mid game, Yellow could have pretty much done anything, especially not surprising considering Yellow was looking to keep Boxers army very small rather than try to dominate with map control (considering he already had it considerably). Boxer did a good job of holding onto his third, but really, yellow had that game won by 13 minute mark.
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