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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 25 2009 02:04 GMT
#1
SDJSDJLSFSDOSDIPSIFPFISDMCXVCKVJX !!!!

1) I think I'm finally understanding PvP (yay), but I'm playing lazy as fuck lately (boo).

So I've been in a lot of positions lately (been playing a shit-ton of pvps) that are really strong, for example:

- we both have the same PSI and exactly the same unit count (# goons), and I have 2 reavers and he has 1, and I have a nexus and his hasn't started...

I was LITERALLY IN THIS POSITION yesterday and I lost.

Why? Because my micro is focking lazy. My micro has been lazy, and I've been getting caught with like 2-3 goons in my main base defending against drops, so my front is weaker.

Lessons learned:
- make sure I scout better to know when he's moving out
- make sure I stop being lazy in battle micro

Seriously I think if I fix these two issues my PvP would jump up another notch. I believe I've finally figured out probe-cutting and how that element of PvP works out. It's been pretty awesome for me lately, because I've been in the above mentioned position several times in the past few days, where I have my expansion up AND the same unit count AND equal # of gateways and reaver tech... but I've just lost a few of em because of poor micro mistakes. I've won my first few PvP's at C+ as well, so I feel good about that.

2) Another problem with my micro being lazy as fuck, I've lost (literally) maybe 5-6 times to 1 fac or 2 fac rushes in PvT... which is doubly annoying because my PvT has been feeling so strong.

- example: today I LITERALLY lost against a regular 1 fac rush when I had 4 dragoons. seriously? my micro focking blows.

- example: (if you were just watching my stream you'd remember this)... 7 goons lost vs a 2 fac rush because of lazy micro.

It's bugging me quite a bit because I developed my build specifically to never lose to those rushes and I've been losing to them for the past 2 days... not necessarily because something's wrong with the build, but because my unit control has been garbage.

Lessons learned:
- don't play when I'm not in the mood
- stop being lazy with my units when I am playing

3) I've been feeling real nice about my PvZ !

That is all..

I was up to almost 5500 on my main, and getting close to C+ on another account as well, but I dropped down to about 5200 because of the lamest focking PvT and PvP losses (100% due to micro errors) T___T!

Anyways, these are some lessons I've learned from ICCUP recently !


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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 25 2009 02:08 GMT
#2
If it makes you feel any better, I lost to some kind of JoyO or 3fact rush or something with 8 goons after sniping his barracks.

I guess he must have been pretty pissed and added a couple factories on before it died instead of expanding like I thought.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 25 2009 02:12 GMT
#3
So my list of most annoying ways to lose games:

1) Build order loss (I.E , you go 14 core and opponent goes 2gate zeal rush... GG MOTHERFUCKER)

2) Micro loss (I.E, I have a huge adv but lost cuz I can't micro worth a shit)

3) Loss due to poor scouting (kinda related to build order loss)... most poignant example is on HBR... I went the top route, and other guy sent his units on the bottom route and killed me, then just defended my attack.

GG!
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
November 25 2009 02:12 GMT
#4
I wish I could just suddenly get better like this. ;_;
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
November 25 2009 02:23 GMT
#5
"- don't play when I'm not in the mood
- stop being lazy with my units when I am playing"

This is something i need to start doing. I went 0-5 today and i didn't even really feel like playing but i just wanted to win when i should have just stopped
Better than Pokebunny
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-25 02:30:13
November 25 2009 02:24 GMT
#6
On November 25 2009 11:04 Xeris wrote:
Lessons learned:
- don't play when I'm not in the mood


+ dont play when tired, dont play at night
+ dont play with cold hands
+ dont play when your mind is really focused on something else like you have some homework or studying to do for tomorrow but don't wanna do it and just procrastinate. don't even turn the pc on if thats the case. or turn it off.
+ dont play when your sibling is annoying you
+ dont play with the tv on
+ dont play while eating
+ take a rest if you lost like 5 times in a row to rushes or anything.

+watch progamer fpvod before you ladder. it's really inspiring.
agentzimp
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
November 25 2009 02:53 GMT
#7
On November 25 2009 11:24 zimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2009 11:04 Xeris wrote:
Lessons learned:
- don't play when I'm not in the mood


+ dont play when tired, dont play at night
+ dont play with cold hands
+ dont play when your mind is really focused on something else like you have some homework or studying to do for tomorrow but don't wanna do it and just procrastinate. don't even turn the pc on if thats the case. or turn it off.
+ dont play when your sibling is annoying you
+ dont play with the tv on
+ dont play while eating
+ take a rest if you lost like 5 times in a row to rushes or anything.

+watch progamer fpvod before you ladder. it's really inspiring.


bolded is what i really need to learn.
sometimes i even turn off my phone, but i forget a lot
if only there was a way to control the doorbell...

also, i listen to final countdown while waiting for my comp to load. and then proceed to get owned by zergs/zealot rushes and owning terrans into the ground with 20+ gateways
boomer hands
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
November 25 2009 02:57 GMT
#8
On November 25 2009 11:12 Xeris wrote:
So my list of most annoying ways to lose games:

1) Build order loss (I.E , you go 14 core and opponent goes 2gate zeal rush... GG MOTHERFUCKER)

2) Micro loss (I.E, I have a huge adv but lost cuz I can't micro worth a shit)

3) Loss due to poor scouting (kinda related to build order loss)... most poignant example is on HBR... I went the top route, and other guy sent his units on the bottom route and killed me, then just defended my attack.

GG!

I frequently lose in all three ways at once ZvZ
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
November 25 2009 03:08 GMT
#9
Ugh I hate my PvP, need to start working on it as well. It sucks losing because of fail reaver micro or lack of knowledge of proper tech switches etc.
I would suggest for the PvT trying the whole x2 thing specifically against 2 fact. Works wonders for me, my goon micro is like the only thing I am semi-competent at. xD
Lots of those tips are really useful though, I always have losing streaks when I'm just playing without being really in the mood.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
November 25 2009 03:08 GMT
#10
On November 25 2009 11:12 Xeris wrote:
So my list of most annoying ways to lose games:

1) Build order loss (I.E , you go 14 core and opponent goes 2gate zeal rush... GG MOTHERFUCKER)

2) Micro loss (I.E, I have a huge adv but lost cuz I can't micro worth a shit)

3) Loss due to poor scouting (kinda related to build order loss)... most poignant example is on HBR... I went the top route, and other guy sent his units on the bottom route and killed me, then just defended my attack.

GG!


#3 makes no sense to me...
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
November 25 2009 03:21 GMT
#11
On November 25 2009 11:24 zimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2009 11:04 Xeris wrote:
Lessons learned:
- don't play when I'm not in the mood


+ dont play when tired, dont play at night
+ dont play with cold hands
+ dont play when your mind is really focused on something else like you have some homework or studying to do for tomorrow but don't wanna do it and just procrastinate. don't even turn the pc on if thats the case. or turn it off.
+ dont play when your sibling is annoying you
+ dont play with the tv on
+ dont play while eating
+ take a rest if you lost like 5 times in a row to rushes or anything.

+watch progamer fpvod before you ladder. it's really inspiring.


+++ dont play while smoking
i smoke like 1 cig per game tt
Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
November 25 2009 04:16 GMT
#12
its funny that earlier in this blog i mentioned i should stop playing when im doing bad but i didnt and now instead of being 0-5 im 0-10 ^^
Better than Pokebunny
Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
November 25 2009 04:23 GMT
#13
how about a bo5 when you're available? ^^
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 25 2009 04:35 GMT
#14
I'll get buttsmashed, but sure
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
November 25 2009 04:47 GMT
#15
Xeris wanna PvP? I'm D+
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 25 2009 14:40 GMT
#16
ya I can pvp you if you just catch me online - I use [Pan]Xeris or XERIS_XERIS pretty exclusively...
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
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