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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
November 03 2009 21:08 GMT
#21
Agreed, but that doesn't mean SSD won't have a niche either. At that, I see there simply being more room for solutions using both SSD and traditional HDD, like what Haduken said. Heck, that's what I am waiting for too

I guess I worded it poorly though, I actually don't have much in terms of doubts about TRIM support and write degradation, what I do have doubts about is the value and price for performance. Kingston made some notes about how they are going to release $80 (post rebate) 40g ssds by Thanksgiving, nice consumer boot drive option, even mainstream. This year thus far has seen the pace in companies' releases and announcements in the area shoot up. So why do we really want to buy a product when the hype is getting around instead of wait and shop is the question I am really posing.

To stick closer to what the thread is about though, what Haduken has listed all look pretty good, if you like the ssd idea, then make some downgrades in some areas as necessary to fit in the budget or simply wait a bit and go with those 5.4k rpm green storage drives for the moment being.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
November 03 2009 21:15 GMT
#22
Try this: TomsHardware.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
November 03 2009 21:18 GMT
#23
tomshardware is hardly a good source for information. They took bribes from manufactures and rig their own tests to biase against vendors -_-
Rillanon.au
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-03 21:22:59
November 03 2009 21:21 GMT
#24
On November 04 2009 06:18 haduken wrote:
tomshardware is hardly a good source for information. They took bribes from manufactures and rig their own tests to biase against vendors -_-

Sources ? ( Just for curiosity, i get infos on another site anyway )
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
November 03 2009 21:27 GMT
#25
low storage ssds are highly impractical though. modern day operating systems (vista and 7) already take 12gb+ of space. 80gb even if it's just a system drive can be filled in a flash. at the current moment they just dont seem to be worth the money.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
November 03 2009 21:54 GMT
#26
On November 04 2009 06:27 mahnini wrote:
low storage ssds are highly impractical though. modern day operating systems (vista and 7) already take 12gb+ of space. 80gb even if it's just a system drive can be filled in a flash. at the current moment they just dont seem to be worth the money.

Though more often than not you'd be moving a good amount of the files to the storage drive anyway, 80gb is probably going to be more than enough. We'll see how the progression on ssds go though, I was pretty interested by that deal from Kingston, but I also think that there is a good amount of room left for development before I can justify switching in. For now I'll just run on my trusty caviar black
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-03 22:18:07
November 03 2009 22:16 GMT
#27
On November 04 2009 06:27 mahnini wrote:
low storage ssds are highly impractical though. modern day operating systems (vista and 7) already take 12gb+ of space. 80gb even if it's just a system drive can be filled in a flash. at the current moment they just dont seem to be worth the money.

Not true. You aren't supposed to fill that drive with things like music or movies that take up a lot of space but require little bandwidth. All that's need to be on an SSD is the OS, your software and 2-3 of your favorite games. Then there will be plenty of room to boot.
You would be hard pressed to find 60 GB worth of software that you just can't live without and need top performance for (games excluded of course).
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
November 03 2009 23:31 GMT
#28
An alternative to a SSD would be building a RAID0. I have that. 2*250GB joined together for almost twice the speed of a single drive. Plenty of space for OS, programs, games, and even some backups from the data drive. It's hard to compare to my old comp because all the hardware is new, but loading times in games are crazy fast now.
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-04 00:49:31
November 04 2009 00:48 GMT
#29
On November 04 2009 07:16 Sadistx wrote:
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On November 04 2009 06:27 mahnini wrote:
low storage ssds are highly impractical though. modern day operating systems (vista and 7) already take 12gb+ of space. 80gb even if it's just a system drive can be filled in a flash. at the current moment they just dont seem to be worth the money.

Not true. You aren't supposed to fill that drive with things like music or movies that take up a lot of space but require little bandwidth. All that's need to be on an SSD is the OS, your software and 2-3 of your favorite games. Then there will be plenty of room to boot.
You would be hard pressed to find 60 GB worth of software that you just can't live without and need top performance for (games excluded of course).

i have an 80gb system drive but it's not ssd. that's precisely what i do and i currently have about 8gb left of free space after uninstalling 3 programs that i would like to use. with the OS at 15 gb and modern games at 7gb a piece you're looking at half your harddrive gone with just games + OS. if you factor in productivity software that you use it'll put you very close if not over your 80gb.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
sumi
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States25 Posts
November 04 2009 02:17 GMT
#30
Thanks everyone for your responses! I think I can build something pretty good now from the suggestions everyone's given. ^_^
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