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Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
October 13 2009 05:51 GMT
#1
So I aside from my awful siege expand build, and throwing away units when I was at a disadvantage, and finally having just abysmal macro is there anything more I could've done in this game? Because aside from laughing the whole way through the game as I knew he had twice my supply once I saw him start expanding I really was lost on how to get the 'leg up'
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anyways enjoy.

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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
October 13 2009 06:18 GMT
#2
You know it's probably far more important that you improve those first three things you mentioned before going onto anything else.
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Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
October 13 2009 06:19 GMT
#3
On October 13 2009 15:18 Divinek wrote:
You know it's probably far more important that you improve those first three things you mentioned before going onto anything else.



touche.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
October 13 2009 06:31 GMT
#4
Yeah. You're basically asking "I know my macro sucks, but how do I win a macro game??" -_-
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Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
October 13 2009 08:27 GMT
#5
saw you on hon!
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
October 13 2009 09:15 GMT
#6
BBS. Every. Game.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
October 13 2009 09:56 GMT
#7
1. Be a lot more aggressive - do vults drop to main and mine the ramp to natural.

2. Dont play python? It lets Z and P expand so much so easily and you need like 10 scans just to spot it.
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
October 13 2009 14:53 GMT
#8
On October 13 2009 18:56 Sadistx wrote:
2. Dont play python? It lets Z and P expand so much so easily and you need like 10 scans just to spot it.


From my experience at the lower ranks playing TvP and PvT, T has an advantage because of the relatively small chokes at the naturals and you can spot P expansions pretty easily with vults/mines/scans. I always have a hard time PvT on that map, anyway.
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StalinRusH
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States734 Posts
October 13 2009 15:43 GMT
#9
On October 13 2009 18:56 Sadistx wrote:
1. Be a lot more aggressive - do vults drop to main and mine the ramp to natural.

2. Dont play python? It lets Z and P expand so much so easily and you need like 10 scans just to spot it.


this...

I play T and i HATEEEEEE Python (besides it being really boring and overplayed at low levels) its just so hard to take a proper 3rd (the min only is gay) and P and Z can flank you so easily or just attack your main when you move out
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-13 15:49:57
October 13 2009 15:47 GMT
#10
On October 13 2009 23:53 Wohmfg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2009 18:56 Sadistx wrote:
2. Dont play python? It lets Z and P expand so much so easily and you need like 10 scans just to spot it.


From my experience at the lower ranks playing TvP and PvT, T has an advantage because of the relatively small chokes at the naturals and you can spot P expansions pretty easily with vults/mines/scans. I always have a hard time PvT on that map, anyway.

I always thought it was kinda hard for Terran because the mid was wide wide open.

edit: rofl, progame stats suggest that Terrans did really well on Python. I guess I'll watch some games.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
October 13 2009 15:51 GMT
#11
On October 14 2009 00:47 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2009 23:53 Wohmfg wrote:
On October 13 2009 18:56 Sadistx wrote:
2. Dont play python? It lets Z and P expand so much so easily and you need like 10 scans just to spot it.


From my experience at the lower ranks playing TvP and PvT, T has an advantage because of the relatively small chokes at the naturals and you can spot P expansions pretty easily with vults/mines/scans. I always have a hard time PvT on that map, anyway.

I always thought it was kinda hard for Terran because the mid was wide wide open.

i know its not the best indication of balance but the pro stats shows python has a pretty significant T advantage. hence the numerous TvT progames on it.
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OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
October 13 2009 15:52 GMT
#12
yeah i hate pvt on python. dropship play while taking the island third + open expansions is a pain in the ass
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
October 13 2009 16:01 GMT
#13
I find the short distances between mains makes Terran pushes really strong, their "slow pushes" are pretty fast and depending on the positions they can expand while doing it.
No I'm never serious.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
October 13 2009 16:13 GMT
#14
Yeah, 2 base 5 fac timing push into P natural is really strong, but if you fuck up the timings and forget to get your 3rd, you're pretty much boned.
So the push is pretty much your all-in.
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