EPTGo through high school like you're going to go to a university, and if it's true that it'll be cheaper to go the CC route (which is usually is), she'll be out of school in 4-5 years.
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OhNoes
United States58 Posts
Go through high school like you're going to go to a university, and if it's true that it'll be cheaper to go the CC route (which is usually is), she'll be out of school in 4-5 years. | ||
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
I go to MSU and went to Lansing Community College and personally I notice no difference other than the Community College teachers actually gave a fuck once in a while and the math department is 100% better at LCC.(Again at least for the lower level classes which are the only ones that community colleges offer anyway) | ||
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Seraphim
United States4467 Posts
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vAltyR
United States581 Posts
The thing is, with community colleges, you're missing out on half the college experience. You don't live in huge dorms with a couple hundred new people to meet, it's just who you see in class and that's it. Very few people actually attend a community college because they want to save money; most of the people there are the people who couldn't get into anywhere better. That has a much larger impact that one might expect; People struggle in classes that you think are easy, and you can't help but feel like you're being held back because of the rest of the class. Most CC students still live at home; If you were smart enough to get into a public university with scholarships, you would have, and if you were hard-working enough to get a job to pay your way through a public university, you would. So the kids who are in community college are the ones who A) don't have the grades/test scores to get into a better university or B) are too lazy to get a job to afford a better university. The general requirements are the same as any other university, but there's the prestige issue too. What do you think looks better, "I'm a sophomore at Virginia Tech as an engineering major" or "I'm a sophomore at New River Community College and will be transferring to VT next year?" You can tell people they're the same all you want, it won't matter. There will always be that slight stigma of attending a community college that you won't get rid of until you graduate from a 4-year college. After that, you can conveniently leave out the community college stint and just say "I graduated from Virginia Tech with a degree in [whatever]." To sum up: She shouldn't go to a community college if she has the opportunity to go someplace better. She might not know what she's missing, but I do, and trust me, she'd rather not miss it. | ||
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itzme_petey
United States1400 Posts
1) Texas offers good schools and if she is basing her education and future on her ego then she isn't going to make it out of community college. Why does she want to go to California so badly?Its probably an ego thing where she believes that Texas is to hick for her. She obviously has not been to UT, the exact opposite of what Texas is perceived as. In-state tuition is so much cheaper. I am currently paying 5k/semester 10k annually. Financial aid and my scholarships cover all my bills/living. I actually get an extra 2k a semester to go to school. I will be leaving college debt free and a good amount of change in my bank account to start my career. Your sister on the other hand will not have that same luxury. 2)If you sister wants to do medicine, business, or pre-law then California does not offer anything better than Texas. Get your BA in Texas and grad school out of state is fine. Actually, the Mccombs School of business (UT Austin) is highly ranked among all undergraduate business programs. However, if she ever wants to get into a good college within the university, she can not fuck up in CC. If she does, she can kiss her chances of transferring into a good college within that university goodbye. 3) Contrary to common belief due to general ignorance. Going to CC does not allow you to save money to go to a real university. The tuition may be lower but, the financial aid and scholarships are also lower. On the other hand, a regular university may be more expensive but offers more financial aid and more scholarships. It is essentially the same cost in her situation. (Assuming her good grades and good SAT scores). Unless she is be able to save 20k/year during the 2 years of CC, then she won't be any better off. However, I will admit that for students who aren't that hardworking, the better choice would be CC. Your sister is a has a good rank and SAT scores therefore she should get all the recognition for her hard work. I have seen people like your sister before. I used to go to high school with people who were similar. Community college turns your brain off and slows your college career down. Worse case scenario is that she decides college isn't for her because of the terrible experience and she drops out. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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Ero-Sennin
United States756 Posts
Now, if you're unsure of your major but you have the money and want to experience the university life, then sure, go for it, but in my opinion they're fucking stupid if they do that. Why? Waste of money, purely and simply. And if you want to immerse yourself in the atmosphere, if that what is really important to you at this point in life, kill yourself. Now, back on topic, I went to CC for 4 years (took 2 years for me to figure out my major. Last year and a half I only took 1 class a semester, really worked a lot), and basically it was getting my generals out of the way, PLUS any class that would transfer over for the major. I ended up in PTK plus I also made the National Dean's List, and I made it into a pretty nice university. I've never taken the SATs, PSATs, whatever any Ts a person can think of, I've never taken them. Yes, I sidestepped the system. Point being, if she excels in CC, there's no way a University will turn her down. | ||
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
On October 12 2009 08:06 zoLo wrote: You don't know what you're talking about vAltyR and itzme_petey since half your posts are old stereotypes of community colleges. Agree, the only reason youd go to a university over a CC is for the university experience if you are moving out of the house. Everything else CC> University. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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Mickey
United States2606 Posts
I really to take offense to that stereotype of community college students being lazy or dumb that vAltyR so kindly put out there. So far I've meet a lot of different people ranging differently from intellectual capability. Generalizing the whole student body as a whole really doesn't give justice to some of the people I've met. My girlfriend attended community college as well and transferred to UIC this previous spring semester. If you would ask her she'd tell you that she actually preferred community college. Her main reason for attending was a financial one as well. She says that her previous school had smaller class sizes and most of teachers had the ability interact with her in a smaller environment than at UIC. While, some people like vAltyR might make the argument that you're missing the college experience, I would have to argue otherwise. The college experience is what you make of it. I don't want to derange the subject. My two cents is if your sister can get adequate financial aid/scholarships/grants to attend her choice school in California, then yes she should go do that. If not, attending a community college is a great way to save money, while working towards your goal. Just make sure you stay deter minded and make the proper preparations to transfer with your credits. As previous people mentioned certain community colleges have a lot of good transfer plans for people to attend different universities in the region/state. | ||
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Monokeros
United States2493 Posts
 THAT ASIDE Community College is great choice if you're 'undecided' since high school doesn't do the greatest job in helping you discover what you want to spend your life doing. If you can't get into a good school with just grades and money is an issue then Community College is definitely. a good choice, but living on her own might cripple her resources. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20178 Posts
going to CC and transferring is fine though. doesnt sound like shes really taken the initiative to look for scholarships to make it easier though. also, why hasnt she taken the SAT yet? is she a junior? if not she should have taken it a while ago and already began working on apps/submitting them by the end of the month. and the "college experience" is fucking sweet i cant imagine living at home and going to cc >< | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
Agree, the only reason youd go to a university over a CC is for the university experience if you are moving out of the house. Everything else CC> University. ... that's simply not true lol. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On October 12 2009 11:54 zulu_nation8 wrote: does she want to go to cc in california or texas? Houston , Texas CC i believe | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
Actually my valedictorian from last year took the SAT in mid oct. as well so i don't think it's a huge issue with applications although i think they moved up the due date this year for several universities. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On October 12 2009 11:48 decafchicken wrote: girls are ridiculous, dont ever try to argue with their logic. its like beating your head against a brick wall going to CC and transferring is fine though. doesnt sound like shes really taken the initiative to look for scholarships to make it easier though. also, why hasnt she taken the SAT yet? is she a junior? if not she should have taken it a while ago and already began working on apps/submitting them by the end of the month. and the "college experience" is fucking sweet i cant imagine living at home and going to cc >< Hey, i linked her this thread D:... bad decaf!! | ||
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Kurosaki
United States158 Posts
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XoXiDe
United States620 Posts
On October 12 2009 08:41 Sadist wrote: Agree, the only reason youd go to a university over a CC is for the university experience if you are moving out of the house. Everything else CC> University. pretty much this, i wish i would have gone to CC first and stayed at home, would be in much less debt when i get out this december, and would have been better integrated into the college scene with the smaller sized class, than going from small town with 50-60 graduating class to 350 people in one classroom. if there is a good cc close to home with credits that transfer easily i would recommend that hand down. | ||
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