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n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
October 02 2009 01:38 GMT
#1
      Does anyone else just stop caring half way through games? I play a lot of games at D level (I'm D+) and theres a pretty large skill range, but most of my opponents are just bad. Like I'll play normally and they'll try to play normally and screw everything up a tiny bit (thats the thing, nobody does anything right at D, they do it almost right} and one thing will lead to another and basically I'll go and smash their first push/break the nat/deny the 3rd ect. and then... well then I just don't care any more. The fact that my opponent blows takes the wind from my sails. My APM drops a hundred points, my macro goes flacid and meanwhile they'll be in macro panic mode, adamantly refusing to leave. And from there it usually turns into Boxer vs Joyo (less awesome version). Is this just me? I've lost 4 games today because I just don't care about my opponent any more; is there a swift way to smash a 2 base opponent as zerg? This apathy is really pissing me off, I just want to play some good games (relatively ) at D+...

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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
October 02 2009 01:42 GMT
#2
The reason they're still in the game is basically for something like this to happen. If you get an advantage, and then they lose another big battle, they'll usually gg.
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VorcePA
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1102 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-02 01:43:51
October 02 2009 01:42 GMT
#3
I've never had this problem, so I can't really relate or tell you advice on how to fix it. I'm kind of the opposite, where I pick up my momentum when I think (or know) I have the advantage, and my macro and micro pick up, which often leads to an even more decisive victory.

But this seems to me like it's one of those problems where if you recognize that it is an issue, it's a simple fix to just stop doing it, yeah?
Shitposting
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
October 02 2009 01:45 GMT
#4
yeah i have this problem, my suggestion: expand more and make ultras :D cows are best lazyzerg unit^^ the other but more risky idea is to use defilers and kill him, but since u're D like me i assume you have a pretty fair chance of screwing that up^^
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
October 02 2009 01:51 GMT
#5
On October 02 2009 10:45 nttea wrote:
yeah i have this problem, my suggestion: expand more and make ultras :D cows are best lazyzerg unit^^ the other but more risky idea is to use defilers and kill him, but since u're D like me i assume you have a pretty fair chance of screwing that up^^

Yea defliers are to be used twice, once to get past his ball and once to push into the natural , anything more than that and I'm wasting gas that could be ultras...
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
October 02 2009 01:56 GMT
#6
Most of my games are pretty intense. I think in my last 10 games through D/D+, about 70% of my opponents have actually been C- and above (from last season). You must have bad luck I guess, but yea... the fun of a game is heavily dependent on your opponent. However, I think you should try 100% even if your opponent is bad, because almost assuredly some of your timings are off, and you could be macroing better and microing better so that you lose less and build more.

I'll play you a few games PvZ tomorrow if you want ^o^
Qiufeng @ Iccup, add me!
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 02 2009 02:03 GMT
#7
Cheese to D+/C- where the opponents start to pose a challenge?

Idk, I don't really get that feeling even if I'm playing a horrible player. It's practice for macro/micro anyway.
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jiabung
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States720 Posts
October 02 2009 02:13 GMT
#8
pick protoss and 2gate cheese against terran. pick terran and 2rax cheese against zerg. pick zerg and 4 pool against terran until you are C rank.
Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
October 02 2009 02:13 GMT
#9
This happens to me when people do something retarded, like 3 gate goon into DT. I basically feel like I'm wasting my time to get the other person to leave, like playing against a computer and having to destroy every single building.
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spoolinoveryou
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States503 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-02 02:32:03
October 02 2009 02:31 GMT
#10
why dont you just hit C- then so you wont get bored. i dont understand.
whats good?
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
October 02 2009 02:47 GMT
#11
On October 02 2009 11:31 spoolinoveryou wrote:
why dont you just hit C- then so you wont get bored. i dont understand.

LOL, cause I'm bad. Right now I'm waiting out a drop hacker, but once he mans up I'll get on that
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n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
October 02 2009 02:55 GMT
#12
On October 02 2009 10:56 EtherealDeath wrote:
Most of my games are pretty intense. I think in my last 10 games through D/D+, about 70% of my opponents have actually been C- and above (from last season). You must have bad luck I guess, but yea... the fun of a game is heavily dependent on your opponent. However, I think you should try 100% even if your opponent is bad, because almost assuredly some of your timings are off, and you could be macroing better and microing better so that you lose less and build more.

I'll play you a few games PvZ tomorrow if you want ^o^
Qiufeng @ Iccup, add me!

My zvp is far and away my worst mu; but I'd love to play some games I'll pm you my nick
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 02 2009 03:05 GMT
#13
in otherwords

"im sorry i cant finish games because the other guy has a fighting chance so i let him win for it"

oldest excuse int he book
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
October 02 2009 03:14 GMT
#14
On October 02 2009 10:38 n.DieJokes wrote:
I've lost 4 games today because I just don't care about my opponent any more
uhh... that's a lot of games... are you sure you're better than your opponent? maybe you need to better assess whether you are ahead or not. and saying they "adamantly refuse to leave" is stupid because they are obviously still very much in the game if 4 players (D level) have managed to come back and win it.
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spoolinoveryou
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States503 Posts
October 02 2009 03:18 GMT
#15
whats your iccup ID?
whats good?
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
October 02 2009 03:25 GMT
#16
On October 02 2009 12:14 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2009 10:38 n.DieJokes wrote:
I've lost 4 games today because I just don't care about my opponent any more
uhh... that's a lot of games... are you sure you're better than your opponent? maybe you need to better assess whether you are ahead or not. and saying they "adamantly refuse to leave" is stupid because they are obviously still very much in the game if 4 players (D level) have managed to come back and win it.

Yea, I was just wondering if anyone else does this; the obvious fix is to focus really hard to be all I can be but instead I just kind of going around clicking on stuff. I don't think it's their fault for not leaving, I just really wish they would so I wouldn't have to wait around for 5 minutes building a huge ass contain and taking the map (which I would be doing if I could bring myself to try). Let me put it another way; you ever go running and you finish your 5k or whatnot and then the coach is like, okay go run another mile and it takes a huge effort of will to go do it. Thats what it's like if that makes sense
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
October 02 2009 03:26 GMT
#17
On October 02 2009 12:05 arb wrote:
in otherwords

"im sorry i cant finish games because the other guy has a fighting chance so i let him win for it"

oldest excuse int he book

So it's not just me?
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
October 02 2009 03:27 GMT
#18
On October 02 2009 12:18 spoolinoveryou wrote:
whats your iccup ID?

nexus123?
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
October 02 2009 04:01 GMT
#19
well u should start caring imo. If you have ever read Art of War by Sun Tzu, then you will know strategy is also based on in games situations. If your opponent thinks he has a chance of winning, then he will come up with a plan on the spot, and will sense your letting your guard down. Remember its not done until u see "*insert name here* has left the game". This mindset will also help to improve your gameplay/game sense.
Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? - Zeratul III AKA WikidSik ingame (anygame)
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
October 02 2009 04:38 GMT
#20
I hate how the terran army midgame is so strong that you have to pussyfoot around it, delay it, avoid it etc till arbiters get out. I usually just say fuck it and attack the army when its coming out of his base. I lose a LOT of games this way even if somehow I have the army advantage.
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