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Greek Sculpture (yes I'm bored)

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Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-25 11:04:20
September 25 2009 03:24 GMT
#1
So I'm bored, I can't be arsed with sleep right now, so have some free knowledge about Greek sculpture, since while everyone else was learning about politics or becoming a sportsman, I was learning about images of men with cocks missing.

Oh well.

(depending on how prude your workplace is, the images may be NSFW)

The birth of Greek sculpture (Archaic)
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The New York Kouros (590BC-580BC)
Basically, as you can see its pretty basic.
Early Greek sculptures had influences from Egyptian sculpture, where the statue was often not free standing, adopting the same stance as this kouros, but with the back and trailing leg supported by a decorated pillar, artistically and technically, this an improvement, but feeble attempts have been made replicating human anatomy, indicated by the pair of v shaped lines on his torso, designating his chest, and the start of his legs, along with a wavy line to show his pectoral muscles.

Although it is at the face where the statue fails most of all, with big wide eyes that look like they are off a alien, a blank expression to match, and hair that can be described as stylistic at best.

The anatomical look of the Kouros is rounded off by the pose that it is left foot in front of the right, as if a attempt at a striding pose, but the arms held rigidly at his sides, quite simply, the sculpter can't seem to decide if the statue is at rest, in stride or standing to attention.

As a result, the statue seems to lack any meaning outside of a poor representation of the human form.

honourable mention
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Kleobis and Biton (580BC~)

Achieved arguably the same things the statue above, but has some meaning, in the fact the statues are of brothers, and there is an attempt to show some unity between them.

The growth of naturalism (Early Classical)
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The Kritios Boy (480BC)
This come under the early classic period of sculpture, for a number of reasons, firstly the face. The so called "Archaic smile", that you see on archaic statues like this one, in an attempt to give them life, is gone, replaced with a more realistic rendering, along with the other features of the face, the hair is shown as if it was banded, with curls popping out underneath, and the eyes are no longer cold dead protruding orbs, but more sunken and life like, and would have contained painted marble spheres.

The most dramatic change however is in the composition of the statue, the rigid stance of old is gone, replaced with a subtle hip drop causing the upper body to be slightly rotated from the viewer, and allowing the statue hold the stance of a youth at rest, with all his weight placed on his back left leg, which in turns forms a more naturalistic pose. In addition, the marble has been sculpted smoother, to give the surface of the statue a quality more akin to skin of a nubile youth.

This, like other naturalistic statues, the aim and meaning of the statue is to accurately depict the human body.

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The Zeus/Posiden of Artemision (460BC)
Another naturalistic statue, only this time in bronze, relatively well accomplished, except the beard is pointy and stiff, and the chest is unresponsive to the powerful movements of the arms, which while I'm on them are out of proportion.

One important thing to note with this statue is that its the birth of showing things with not just the potential for movement, but the actuality, as they have been frozen in time, and when unfrozen, they will have no choice but to throw their lightning bolt/trident/discus.

Maturity (Classical and late Classical)
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Apollo Sauroktonos (350 BC)(Praxiteles)
There are a fuck ton of statues featuring Apollo, doing what ever, (There is a reason why statues of Alexander the great look strikingly similar to statues of a Apollo) basically the Greeks loved to make statues of him, and this is one of more famous ones. Sculptures in this period usually all share one similar aim, to tell a story, or a message, and this one is no different. It depicts Apollo as a young boy, and in terms of looks the sculptor pretty much has that down, so I won't bother with that, the real thing of interest is what he is doing, or what he is about to do.

If you haven't guessed already, the "sauroktonos" in the statues name means lizard slayer, and like many small boys, he is going to have some playful fun with the local wildlife before he squashes it.
But the real message here is about Apollo's future, because I forget the details, but all you need to know is that he goes on to kill a lizard thing, and the lizard here is clearly representative of the lizard he fights later on in life. (another thing to note is the depiction of a deity as a small boy, this is a trend known as humanising the gods)

Moving on,

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The Aphrodite of Knidos (300BC~)(Praxiteles)
All the pictures of this statue I could find are terrible, as is the way with many statues, thousands of copies exist, some worse than others, but the general idea of this sculpture primarily of humanisation, depicting Aphrodite stepping out after bathing and being seen naked, and then displaying embarrassment even shame at being caught naked, this statue was also a breakthrough in terms of being the earliest depiction of a women naked in Greek sculpture, in a role that didn't require them to be naked, i.e. the worlds oldest profession.

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Eirene and Ploutos (370BC)(Kephisodotos)
Perhaps my favourite sculpture, this group shows the matronly Eirene, the goddess of peace amongst other things, carrying a baby who identified as the god of wealth and money etc.
Unlike statues of old which displayed clothed women with almost no hint of the female form underneath, the artist has done away with this, using where the fabric meets skin to show the female form, and like most statues of the period there have been very little advances in the technical quality of the sculpture since the early classical period, again more important is the message that its trying to convey. Through the gaze that both Eiriene and Ploutos have on each other, you can assume that they are mother and son, and since a mother's purpose is nurture and help her son grow, the overall message of the statue becomes obvious, when there is peace, wealth will grow, which is quite apt considering that this was placed in the Agora.


Anyways, that's a short, incomplete history of Greek sculpture which I started writing because I was bored, and halfway through I was ready for sleep, but then at that point I had to finish.

No doubt that I will have got something wrong in my rush to make this coherent.


*****
Nerdette // External revolution - Internal revolution // Fabulous // I raise my hands to heaven of curiosity // I don't know what to ask for // What has it got for me? // Kerribear
Humbug
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States264 Posts
September 25 2009 03:42 GMT
#2
:O All really interesting, thanks for the post. This year I'm studying art history, and it's definitely a very fun and interesting class. (I felt smart in the first picture you posted with the reference to Egyptian art (we just finished that chapter) since I could spot out similarities between the Archaic Greek sculpture and Egyptian pieces :D)
What is an angel? Show me an angel and I shall paint one
jonnyp
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States415 Posts
September 25 2009 03:46 GMT
#3
i always found the development of greek math much more fascinating than greek sculpture and philosophy, but im probably in the minority .

great write up
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
September 25 2009 03:58 GMT
#4
You might enjoy this course from Yale.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
September 25 2009 04:18 GMT
#5
I remember learning this in my Art History Class. That class was really interesting even though the teacher put people to sleep.
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2109 Posts
September 25 2009 19:23 GMT
#6
On September 25 2009 12:58 citi.zen wrote:
You might enjoy this course from Yale.


Thanks for the comments and ratings, unfortunately Yale isn't an option for me, partly due to the distance, and partly due the great Uni's over here, but also because I'm doing Archaeology, which is kinda related, and gives me a free pass at fancy dress parties to dress up as either; Indiana Jones, or Lara Croft, because nothing says macho like crossing dressing at a fancy dress party.
Nerdette // External revolution - Internal revolution // Fabulous // I raise my hands to heaven of curiosity // I don't know what to ask for // What has it got for me? // Kerribear
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-25 21:23:35
September 25 2009 21:14 GMT
#7
The only reason I linked to it is that its a free course, fully available online on youtube. I wasn't suggesting you go to Yale. I really like this "open education" project they have going... spent many nights watching some of their classes. Sure, they are introductory, but if I pick stuff that is not in my field there is still a lot to learn!

PS: the credit for finding that site should go to {CC}StealthBlue in his Shelly Kagan post - damn you!!!

On a more serious note - what does it say about the value of education when full courses, for which people otherwise pay an arm and a leg, are becoming freely accessible online? I guess this gives at least some support to the signalling theory of education: people don't go to school primarily to obtain "information" or "knowledge", but to socialize, develop soft skills and connections. And a diploma. Eh?
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2109 Posts
September 26 2009 00:21 GMT
#8
On September 26 2009 06:14 citi.zen wrote:
The only reason I linked to it is that its a free course, fully available online on youtube. I wasn't suggesting you go to Yale. I really like this "open education" project they have going... spent many nights watching some of their classes. Sure, they are introductory, but if I pick stuff that is not in my field there is still a lot to learn!

PS: the credit for finding that site should go to {CC}StealthBlue in his Shelly Kagan post - damn you!!!

On a more serious note - what does it say about the value of education when full courses, for which people otherwise pay an arm and a leg, are becoming freely accessible online? I guess this gives at least some support to the signalling theory of education: people don't go to school primarily to obtain "information" or "knowledge", but to socialize, develop soft skills and connections. And a diploma. Eh?


Are awesome cool, I didn't watch all the video as you may have guessed but I think I will now.
Nerdette // External revolution - Internal revolution // Fabulous // I raise my hands to heaven of curiosity // I don't know what to ask for // What has it got for me? // Kerribear
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