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1a2a3a4a too fast?

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Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-17 01:22:18
September 17 2009 01:19 GMT
#1
I searched for things like "hotkey too fast" and "keyboard response" and "keyboard slow" and things like that but I couldn't find a thread about this, although I'm sure this must have at some point popped up.

When I play, I go 1a2a3a4a5a1a2a3a4a5a too quickly, I think. I know for sure that I hit 1a2a3a4a for my units but half the time many of the units do not attack move because it seems that my keyboard response time is much slower than how quickly I can do 1a2a3a4a. You can imagine how painful and annoying this is when playing something like TvZ and having half your MM in SK Terran not attack move into a group of lurkers. Is this an issue with Starcraft, or is it my computer, or my keyboard? Does anyone know?

Maybe I'm not synchronizing my clicks properly with my 1a2a3a4a. I'm going to slow it down and make sure to click in between to be positive but I'm pretty sure it also has something to do with my keyboard response time because sometimes the units don't even get any orders at all.

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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-17 01:24:52
September 17 2009 01:23 GMT
#2
Yea, I have the exact same problem. There was a thread on here about the same thing and there was a good number of responses so I'll try to look for that.

What I do is just press 1a2a3a twice really quickly to make sure that they all move. But yea, it's a HUGE pain in the ass when it matters.

For me it's a lot more problematic on my laptop but not so much on my computer.

Here's the thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=99543
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24780 Posts
September 17 2009 01:23 GMT
#3
Yeah that happens to me sometimes (used to, really). One thing I do is issue commands to large groups of units twice to double check... another is to make sure you press a bit more carefully even if it does slow you down a bit. The problem isn't keyboard response time I don't think...
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zcxvbn
Profile Joined August 2009
United States257 Posts
September 17 2009 01:24 GMT
#4
I believe it has something to do with how the SC event buffer works. There was a (highly controversial) thread about it recently:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=101215
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
September 17 2009 01:27 GMT
#5
It's not that you're doing it too fast, it's that you're not doing it deliberately and precisely enough...

If you hit the keys more cleanly, they'll respond. SC doesn't seem to be good at recognizing multiple keys pressed at once, so it'll fuck up if you're a little messy.
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NeoOmega
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States495 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-17 01:36:54
September 17 2009 01:32 GMT
#6
If you hold down the mouse the keyboard doesn't work. Your clicks need to be fast and precise.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-17 02:02:29
September 17 2009 02:01 GMT
#7
On September 17 2009 10:27 PH wrote:
It's not that you're doing it too fast, it's that you're not doing it deliberately and precisely enough...

If you hit the keys more cleanly, they'll respond. SC doesn't seem to be good at recognizing multiple keys pressed at once, so it'll fuck up if you're a little messy.

yea, this and the fact that mose generic keyboards can only handle a few inputs simultaneously. Happens to me all the damned time (especailly when mass macroing 3sh4sz5sz6sh) Sometimes I'll hit U and I when trying to burrow and the lurkers won't live. Sometimes I'll be trying to surround units really really fast and too many commands and the units freeze.

This has always been an issue, never saw that 'hack' I suppose I'll try it out.
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 17 2009 02:15 GMT
#8
I think that how it goes, say that you press 1 and then a, if your finger was still on a while you pressed 2, you'll stay on control group 1 instead of going to 2

Basically, tap the keys so that your fingers have the least contact time with the keys as possible.
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datscilly
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States529 Posts
September 17 2009 02:19 GMT
#9
It's exactly as NeoOmega said. Just let go of the mouse button very quickly after you press it down.
[image loading]

For example in this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=101321 most people tried to click 5 times "fast", but actually you should click "snappy".
wok
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States504 Posts
September 17 2009 02:33 GMT
#10
On September 17 2009 10:24 zcxvbn wrote:
I believe it has something to do with how the SC event buffer works. There was a (highly controversial) thread about it recently:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=101215

Lol highly controversial? You give me too much credit! :p
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wok
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States504 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-17 02:35:10
September 17 2009 02:34 GMT
#11
On September 17 2009 11:19 datscilly wrote:
It's exactly as NeoOmega said. Just let go of the mouse button very quickly after you press it down.
[image loading]

For example in this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=101321 most people tried to click 5 times "fast", but actually you should click "snappy".


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Edit: crap. Another double post. I sense a ban coming soon. T_T
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24780 Posts
September 17 2009 02:36 GMT
#12
My keyboard messed up in my game vs zulu. When my natural nexus was 80% done, it suddenly canceled. I swear I didn't hit any key to do this! Also, the next game I saw he was flying his speedshuttle across the map so I moved my dragoons to intercept and due to keyboard failure dragoons didn't fire properly and the speedshuttle almost survived!

100% Keyboard's fault.
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Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
September 17 2009 02:42 GMT
#13
I actually tried out that program, wok, and it kept doing weird stuff so I stopped using it. For example, I'd have it on, and be in b.net chat, and type something, and it would just send it before I was done, or send it at random times, or whatever. I didn't spend much time figuring out any patterns to the problem or what was going on.
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wok
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States504 Posts
September 17 2009 02:50 GMT
#14
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GOB
Profile Joined September 2009
50 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-17 03:03:55
September 17 2009 03:03 GMT
#15
nvm, pming
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EndRoll
Profile Joined April 2006
Japan116 Posts
September 17 2009 03:05 GMT
#16
the reason is simple. its nth do with keyboard or mouse.
the reason is that if you are clicking on the button of the mouse
1->a->click
if you do not release the click , you cannot press 2 to change the control group.

the solution i think is quite simple too, if you notice how progammer press their mouse (there is a youtube video showing how boxer click) , when they 1a2a3a4a
they always lift their finger completely above the left button of the mouse before the next click
i used to have this problem before but after i changed my style of clicking the mouse, it completely solves the problem.

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