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[Q] 1a2a3a trouble (not a joke)

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PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-10 19:20:41
August 10 2009 19:20 GMT
#1
I've always had trouble doing 1a2a3a4a5a because I have to slowdown doing it because I otherwise risk some of my control groups being skipped. Playing other games for a few years I can do this extremely fast but I'm forced to do it rhythmically in Starcraft, and was wondering if there's any possible keyboard settings or something to fix this problem or if I'm stuck doing it this way.

I tested this on another computer first to make sure it wasn't just my computer (it had the same OS though).

The problem is if you press 1a then press 2 while a is still being let go it doesn't register the group.

Help?
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
August 10 2009 19:23 GMT
#2
All I do is practice it... sometimes I'll make a single player game with cheats on, just so I can practice 1a2a3a4a5a and see how accurate my key presses are.
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Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
August 10 2009 19:23 GMT
#3
Well, you could do a move command first and then do your a-move slowly, so that they would all arrive at once anyway.

Though I can't say I've ever heard of a problem like this before...
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 10 2009 19:24 GMT
#4
practice practice. just open up notepad and do it several times.

I have problems doing 1a2a31a2a3a1a2a3a1a2a3a. (trying do to that 1a2a3a micro map with the ghosts) i always fuck up going back to 1, and yeah TT or over extending to 4 TT
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
August 10 2009 19:25 GMT
#5
Okay guys thanks! Glad I know this is just a game mechanic and I'll start working on it.
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
August 10 2009 19:35 GMT
#6
theres some kind of cannon UMS, where you basically just practicing targeting and pressing 1a2a3a. Pretty fun, makes your hands tired tho!
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 10 2009 19:37 GMT
#7
On August 11 2009 04:23 Zozma wrote:
Well, you could do a move command first and then do your a-move slowly, so that they would all arrive at once anyway.

Though I can't say I've ever heard of a problem like this before...

Sometimes I do this, then it allows you to 1a2a3a slowly while all your units still start moving at the same time.

Other times, I'll just 1a2a3a twice or even three times in huge battles late game just to be sure all my units went. Better off wasting like 3 seconds doing than than finding out only 3/4 of your army went and ended up getting raped.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
coltrane
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Chile988 Posts
August 10 2009 19:45 GMT
#8
You should practice...

You need to practice ingame, notepad isnt good enough because yours is mainly a coordination problem betwen your hands. You need to click right after the a and before the number or you will miss groups orders.

I have seen progamers hotkeying CC and hiting 1r2r3r4r several times, its similar, and you can use that dead time to practice the 1a2a3a shit.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 10 2009 19:45 GMT
#9
On August 11 2009 04:37 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2009 04:23 Zozma wrote:
Well, you could do a move command first and then do your a-move slowly, so that they would all arrive at once anyway.

Though I can't say I've ever heard of a problem like this before...

Sometimes I do this, then it allows you to 1a2a3a slowly while all your units still start moving at the same time.

Other times, I'll just 1a2a3a twice or even three times in huge battles late game just to be sure all my units went. Better off wasting like 3 seconds doing than than finding out only 3/4 of your army went and ended up getting raped.


Yep really sucks if you forgot those 2 extra groups of lings or that group of zealots when your charging into the Terran ball of DOOOM.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
sanji_
Profile Joined June 2009
United States16 Posts
August 10 2009 19:45 GMT
#10
I'm new to SC, but I find 4a5a6a7a etc much easier than 1a2a3a4a. I just keep my pinky on a and use my index finger. Feels better for me
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
August 10 2009 19:49 GMT
#11
On August 11 2009 04:45 sanji_ wrote:
I'm new to SC, but I find 4a5a6a7a etc much easier than 1a2a3a4a. I just keep my pinky on a and use my index finger. Feels better for me


Which do you use for end game building macro then?
Chance favors the prepared mind.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 10 2009 19:50 GMT
#12
On August 11 2009 04:49 Pufftrees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2009 04:45 sanji_ wrote:
I'm new to SC, but I find 4a5a6a7a etc much easier than 1a2a3a4a. I just keep my pinky on a and use my index finger. Feels better for me


Which do you use for end game building macro then?


hence the new part, i bet he doesn't
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 10 2009 19:54 GMT
#13
On August 11 2009 04:50 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2009 04:49 Pufftrees wrote:
On August 11 2009 04:45 sanji_ wrote:
I'm new to SC, but I find 4a5a6a7a etc much easier than 1a2a3a4a. I just keep my pinky on a and use my index finger. Feels better for me


Which do you use for end game building macro then?


hence the new part, i bet he doesn't

Actually that's how I set my unit hotkeys too.

1 - Main CC
2 - Natural
3 - Production building(double tap to macro)
4-8 - Units
9 - Scanner
0 - Scanner

Doesn't work too bad actually. I'm pretty fast at 4a5a6a7a8a in-game, and since I'm constantly managing and macroing my base because 1-3 are all together. Works for me anyway.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
sanji_
Profile Joined June 2009
United States16 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-10 20:26:20
August 10 2009 20:23 GMT
#14
On August 11 2009 04:49 Pufftrees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2009 04:45 sanji_ wrote:
I'm new to SC, but I find 4a5a6a7a etc much easier than 1a2a3a4a. I just keep my pinky on a and use my index finger. Feels better for me


Which do you use for end game building macro then?

There are still F2, F3, F4, 1-3, and 8-0 for those areas or buildings. All it is is a shift of the hotkeys, but they're all still there. Sure I'm noob, but it just feels much easier as I don't have to move my hand, although I'm sure there are players who use 1a2a3a and are faster.
Queequeg
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany263 Posts
August 10 2009 20:39 GMT
#15
On August 11 2009 04:20 PokePill wrote:
The problem is if you press 1a then press 2 while a is still being let go it doesn't register the group.

No, the problem is, while your mouse button is pressed from a+click you can't hotkey-select the next group. So you have to release the mouse button as fast as possible.

And don't practice in notepad, you don't have to use the mouse there.
TryThis
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada1522 Posts
August 10 2009 20:55 GMT
#16
On August 11 2009 05:39 Queequeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2009 04:20 PokePill wrote:
The problem is if you press 1a then press 2 while a is still being let go it doesn't register the group.

No, the problem is, while your mouse button is pressed from a+click you can't hotkey-select the next group. So you have to release the mouse button as fast as possible.

And don't practice in notepad, you don't have to use the mouse there.


ohhhhhhh that explains why my rally points get all messed up when i change them, usually i jsut spam 4-0 a bunch of times with right click.
with units i usually get though, but a bit slower.

someone mentioned that 1a2a3a game, it heped me out quite a bit, i cant come close to beating it but i made it to level four
Dwell
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
August 10 2009 21:06 GMT
#17
Try this:
The 1a2a3a UMS Training map
Mah Buckit!
Profile Joined April 2009
Finland474 Posts
August 10 2009 21:23 GMT
#18
Play protoss, you get plenty of practice...
No really I have the same problem, I hope SC2 doesn´t have this "feat". It gets on your nerves when rallypoints are always around the map But my keyboard isn´t the best for SC either I guess.
Starcraft? Epic Grimness.
ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
August 11 2009 08:16 GMT
#19
On August 11 2009 04:20 PokePill wrote:
I've always had trouble doing 1a2a3a4a5a because I have to slowdown doing it because I otherwise risk some of my control groups being skipped. Playing other games for a few years I can do this extremely fast but I'm forced to do it rhythmically in Starcraft, and was wondering if there's any possible keyboard settings or something to fix this problem or if I'm stuck doing it this way.

I tested this on another computer first to make sure it wasn't just my computer (it had the same OS though).

The problem is if you press 1a then press 2 while a is still being let go it doesn't register the group.

Help?


I had and still have the same problem, if I press another button too fast it doesnt work, so I used to skip few groups and lose the big battles. However, I found another, maybe even better way. Lets say I got lurker/ling army with 12 lurks and 48 lings. I group them from 1 to 5, then get set them in formation (lurkers in front, lings from sides) and just do 1-click-2-click-3-click-4-click-5-click towards the MnM army. then with no harm 2a3a in one side and 4a5a in other side, lurkers reaches marines, 1u. Well basically what I'm telling, you can just order them to move, and when all groups are moving, re-order them to attack. :}
IMBA - International Mountain Bicycling Association.
mcgriddle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States253 Posts
August 11 2009 08:25 GMT
#20
sounds like my macro problem- with zerg i 5sh6sh7sh8sh9sh0sh too fast and it doesnt work sometimes. Only cure i have found is forcing myself to really pound each key in a nice rhythm. Tips? :D
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