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Terrible v. Terrible-r - TvT at it's most dumb

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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-15 04:58:48
September 15 2009 01:50 GMT
#1
This blog post is dedicated to Ilovekoreans, who is, in my limited knowledge, a pretty cool person.

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Probably looks like this.


I thought I would post a TvT to complete the cycle, but needed one suffciently bad enough to prove exactly how terrible I am at the match-up. Granted, I also win this game, but there's so much that needs work before I can start winning TvT games. This game also didn't count, presumably because he used a bad map or something, which annoys me, because I'll take any win I can get.

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Basically, I have a neat little plan to run vultures around the back and expand which is moderately successful. But I really never play the kind of dropship TvT that is played in korea, which I'd like to learn. Instead, we both build up a bunch of units, both hang back, and I sieze my economic lead and build battlecruisers. I really didn't do very much impressive here, except the bare minimum required to win, but I just cannot seem to get into the whole dropship mode.

WRONG:
- No army agression. I could've shut down even the possibility of a second expo, but I never took the opportunity.
- Sent too many vultures on the harassment. For next time, I'll remember to send two/three.
- Starport was late, tech to battlecruisers was slow and frought with supply stops, and I never really saw his drops coming.

RIGHT
- I macro'd well at the beginning.
- Expanded to a third a little slow, but faster than normal.
- I picked an opponent as passive as I

At this stage in my quest to D+, I admit it looks fairly bleak. I'm 4-17 so far, and have not really been able to win a "straight-up" macro game. But I have faith, not only because my hotkey useage improves marginally each game, as does my apm. My macro is improving, and I'm starting to grasp what Day9's last podcast covered; having a plan and sticking to it. Also, it's only 21 games in, in a three month long season.

And finally because I'm loving college, and am in a general good mood.

***

DIGRESSION: I love music. I'm sure everyone else here does too, but I've been inspired by killinator's album of the day series. (Keep it going!) I've been expanding my usual browsing (NPR Music being my staple) to my favorite villains (Pitchfork is a garbage reviewer.) But I've also been browsing the shared music library of my dorm, and really loving the variety. I'm not so much of an album person (exceptions: The Hazards of Love by The Decemberists, and Feed the Animals by Girl Talk - both of which are just really long songs), instead I pick and choose my favorite songs (I know, blasphemy right?)

I thought I'd share the songs I'm listening to for some of these games.

Here's "All My Friends" by LCD Soundsystem:


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Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
September 15 2009 01:57 GMT
#2
The way of the terran is a long arduous journey my friend, I wish you luck.
Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
September 15 2009 02:08 GMT
#3
I avoid TvT at all costs, I mostly say it's because it's so boring, but it's really because I suck at it. Which is probably because I never play it, but I play iccup for fun so why spend any time unhappily.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 15 2009 02:18 GMT
#4
TvT is pretty hard lol, I used to win some matches by going for a drop han-bang.
Writerptrk
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
September 15 2009 02:28 GMT
#5
ahh I just started playing TvT. I think late-game TvT relies heavily on knowing where your opponent's army is (especially the one in dropships) and hence map control is quite important. You need to have enough map control to give yourself enough time to react and reposition your army to defend.
Official Entusman #21
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-15 02:31:20
September 15 2009 02:30 GMT
#6
^^^ lolwut (referring to ppl who don't like TvT)? I love TvT, it's by far my best matchup

Just macro and drop stuff places, if you see your opponent making attack defend it, otherwise keep utilizing dropships and try to stay a base ahead.

TvT ez, siege tanks imba
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
September 15 2009 02:39 GMT
#7
i played terran for fun since people were saying how hard it was and all I got to play was TvTs.

think one of my games was vs you sunyveil lol, under detonate
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
September 15 2009 02:51 GMT
#8
TvT reminds me of the board game Go...

My rule for whenever I play TvT is to have at least half the map, and always try to have more expos.
uglymoose89
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States671 Posts
September 15 2009 04:02 GMT
#9
Lol, i'm terrible with dropships so i usually go 2 fact mines and speed and contain the other player.
ScoutWBF
Profile Joined April 2005
Germany636 Posts
September 15 2009 04:16 GMT
#10
On September 15 2009 11:30 Sunyveil wrote:
^^^ lolwut (referring to ppl who don't like TvT)? I love TvT, it's by far my best matchup

Just macro and drop stuff places, if you see your opponent making attack defend it, otherwise keep utilizing dropships and try to stay a base ahead.

TvT ez, siege tanks imba


this guy speaks the truth!
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
September 15 2009 04:58 GMT
#11
i used to never get TvT, but like after 1 game, i suddenly understood it much better, and its hard to explain how i understood it. I just no longer lost to like gay rushes and such.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
September 15 2009 05:04 GMT
#12
Another struggle for us Terrans. *sigh At least we're less abused than the poor zergies
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
September 15 2009 05:08 GMT
#13
On September 15 2009 13:58 YPang wrote:
i used to never get TvT, but like after 1 game, i suddenly understood it much better, and its hard to explain how i understood it. I just no longer lost to like gay rushes and such.


i didnt know that rushes have sexual preferences.
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