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oxidized
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States324 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-10 11:44:39
September 10 2009 11:44 GMT
#41
rofl thanks for posting this. Makes me feel better for loosing so hard on this map. TvP makes me cry so much.

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Its not the worst map ever though. It's just worst map to get popular.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
September 10 2009 12:36 GMT
#42
I'd say something about Mercury, but was that ever popular?
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
September 10 2009 12:40 GMT
#43
Yeah I suck at TvP on this map too. Perhaps because it's so easy to counter for protoss and the fact that it's hard to have more than 3 bases as Terran.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-10 13:00:44
September 10 2009 13:00 GMT
#44
On September 10 2009 14:17 Manifesto7 wrote:
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On September 10 2009 14:07 lazz wrote:
yeah bro, sounds like you shouldnt be playing terran if you find it so difficult/frustrating.. lol


Fuck that. Terran is the race of big dicked Vikings who rampage across the galaxies in huge battleships, rip up the ground with artillery spawned from the forges of hell, and send waves of valiant warriors to fight the freaks of science. Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop.


Mani hath spoketh.

/thread
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
September 10 2009 13:09 GMT
#45
I can understand the pain you terrans go through with heartbreak, i really can, but i deal with Destination ZvT... Nty.
sAviOr...
DarkShadowz
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden321 Posts
September 10 2009 13:12 GMT
#46
On September 10 2009 14:51 mrgerry wrote:
After losing to Terrans on Desti who go Mech and go into a game not wanting to attack and just camp their half I don't feel the slighest bit of sympathy.

yeah this is exactly my thoughts. It's also not like PvZ is a walk in the park, dying to different ling allins 4 times in a row on HBR
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
September 10 2009 13:25 GMT
#47
On September 10 2009 22:12 DarkShadowz wrote:
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On September 10 2009 14:51 mrgerry wrote:
After losing to Terrans on Desti who go Mech and go into a game not wanting to attack and just camp their half I don't feel the slighest bit of sympathy.

yeah this is exactly my thoughts. It's also not like PvZ is a walk in the park, dying to different ling allins 4 times in a row on HBR


ZvP on heartbreak seems like

Zerg has the advantage for the first half of the game with the no ramp, behind nat minerals, wide natural, hard to take 3rd, easy to get contained terrain in many ways.

Then after that, if protoss takes a 3rd easily, splitting the map is hell for zerg, the map becomes smaller, drops work still, but the map is pretty small to travel when it occurs.

Most zergs on iccup prefer non-macro games however.. so i can see why you complain
sAviOr...
tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
September 10 2009 13:31 GMT
#48
On September 10 2009 22:25 Camlito wrote:
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On September 10 2009 22:12 DarkShadowz wrote:
On September 10 2009 14:51 mrgerry wrote:
After losing to Terrans on Desti who go Mech and go into a game not wanting to attack and just camp their half I don't feel the slighest bit of sympathy.

yeah this is exactly my thoughts. It's also not like PvZ is a walk in the park, dying to different ling allins 4 times in a row on HBR


ZvP on heartbreak seems like

Zerg has the advantage for the first half of the game with the no ramp, behind nat minerals, wide natural, hard to take 3rd, easy to get contained terrain in many ways.

Then after that, if protoss takes a 3rd easily, splitting the map is hell for zerg, the map becomes smaller, drops work still, but the map is pretty small to travel when it occurs.

Most zergs on iccup prefer non-macro games however.. so i can see why you complain


I find ZvP on HBR very, very easy.
The third is positioned such that it can easily be taken by a 3hatch spire -> 5hatch hydra build. When the toss tries to push in early to take it after forge FE, you can trap their army there and take it out with a hydra force, macro up a big one quickly, then take them out.
Alternatively, 2hatch hydra break ftw.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-10 14:26:17
September 10 2009 13:36 GMT
#49
This game is hard enough. I don't need Heartbreak Ridge making it any harder.

I'm already a dumbass and choose to play Protoss as my main race. (seriously why am I playing Protoss? I think I asked why in a previous blog...) Protosson it's own is a fucking hard race to play. Every game on any map is like uberhardmode. Now add this god awful map called Heartbreak Ridge to the equation and you get some ridiculously stupid mix of uberhardmode and impossibility.

What it should have been called was fuckyouintheass ridge.

I swear EVERY possible FUCKING thing that messes with your mind is in play on HBR. First of all it's a one on one map, so say hello to bullshit cheeses 24/7. Proxy barracks in ur main?. How fucked up is that. If you spawn right side you have to wall or u pretty much get stolen gas which is pretty much gg. Especially since there are no ramps. Are you kidding me? No ramps even? At least on destination we had a ramp. As if no fucking ramps was bad enough, there's a LEDGE above your choke. rofl? Ledge above ramp is bad enough on colo2 but at least there you get a nested natural. Here any possible wall is on the inside so you still have to work your ass off to simply survive a 10/15 gate and then still have to work like a mofo for ur expo.

Your nat is a joke, positioning cannons vs muta harass is like rofl. You can place canons above but they get picked off so easily. You can position stuff below but u have no vision and he just rapes probes randomly and ur gas always gets raped. Oh and I just found out recently u can siege tanks at the third and rape the other guys nat gas TvT and other guy can't do jack shit about it. fucking homo.

There are multiple main paths to the enemy base. Your army can be pushing on one side while a million troops march for a counter and when you try to pull back all ur shit gets clusterfucked in the middle. Oh by the way why the FUCK is there a base in the middle. I swear it's probably more fucking retarded than the middle base on Andromeda. Good luck trying to take a 4th base PvT. Good luck taking out zerg expos at 11 or 5. If they position sunks correctly and have swarm the chokes into those bases is so small its gg no re. And it takes u an hour to get to those bases. Reminds me of Katrina when ur troops basically had to run 26 miles to take out zerg expos. hell even taking a 3rd base feels shitty. half the time when you try to take 1 or 7 your stuck covering with goons on the low ground near one of the ridges. If you don't observer+zealot perfectly every time u get fucked. How stupid is that? I mean seriously this game is a fucking hardmode game already why... just why.

Did I mention the temple+mineral fucking idiotjoke behind ur natural yet? No? Well guess what, whoever decided this map wasn't a fucking homonightmare already decided to add this shit which u can mine out or glitch units through. glitching Vultures/Lings through there is really fucking retarded. You can have cannon positioned at ur nat and cannons in main but if he glitches a few vultures or mines it out u can get fucked so easily.

I don't give a shit what the progaming stats are on this map btw this is the most imba and most retarded map ever. (I'm sure it's a "Protoss" favored map, BULLCRAP)

I do believe this is the worst map to grace the competitive starcraft scene in my 11 year history of playing this stupid game. It's motw on iccup right now and easily the most popular map in random public games. F that and F HBR. All I can say is the next one on one map better fucking have choke ramps or there will be hell to pay.

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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-10 14:11:11
September 10 2009 14:02 GMT
#50
Good read :D now I know where I will train my ZvT skills
I will pay you for it with...

On September 10 2009 14:44 Grobyc wrote:
Those sneaky fuckers are out to get us Lucky.

And fuck Zerg just because 2hatch is imba.


Add 2nd rax before CC. This is so simple.
Use mineral trick to put like 2nd scout in Z's / P's base.
edit + the same to make it leave your own base safely (so send like 2scvs and you need 3 to make those 2 leave your base).
FOCUS FIRE MUTAS - 10 Marines with +0 kill 1 in 2 shots that is ~1second?
Use hold?


@ cliffs behind nat:
Dude, there is enough place to place a Hatchery (I've just checked) so place rax / depots there for vision and as a 2nd wall in?




BTW
On September 10 2009 22:36 ghermination wrote:
This game is hard enough. I don't need Heartbreak Ridge making it any harder.

I'm already a dumbass and choose to play Protoss as my main race. (seriously why am I playing Protoss? I think I asked why in a previous blog...) Protosson it's own is a fucking hard race to play. Every game on any map is like uberhardmode. Now add this god awful map called Heartbreak Ridge to the equation and you get some ridiculously stupid mix of uberhardmode and impossibility.

What it should have been called was fuckyouintheass ridge.

I swear EVERY possible FUCKING thing that messes with your mind is in play on HBR. First of all it's a one on one map, so say hello to bullshit cheeses 24/7. Proxy barracks in ur main?. How fucked up is that. If you spawn right side you have to wall or u pretty much get stolen gas which is pretty much gg. Especially since there are no ramps. Are you kidding me? No ramps even? At least on destination we had a ramp. As if no fucking ramps was bad enough, there's a LEDGE above your choke. rofl? Ledge above ramp is bad enough on colo2 but at least there you get a nested natural. Here any possible wall is on the inside so you still have to work your ass off to simply survive a 10/15 gate and then still have to work like a mofo for ur expo.

Your nat is a joke, positioning cannons vs muta harass is like rofl. You can place canons above but they get picked off so easily. You can position stuff below but u have no vision and he just rapes probes randomly and ur gas always gets raped. Oh and I just found out recently u can siege tanks at the third and rape the other guys nat gas TvT and other guy can't do jack shit about it. fucking homo.

There are multiple main paths to the enemy base. Your army can be pushing on one side while a million troops march for a counter and when you try to pull back all ur shit gets clusterfucked in the middle. Oh by the way why the FUCK is there a base in the middle. I swear it's probably more fucking retarded than the middle base on Andromeda. Good luck trying to take a 4th base PvT. Good luck taking out zerg expos at 11 or 5. If they position sunks correctly and have swarm the chokes into those bases is so small its gg no re. And it takes u an hour to get to those bases. Reminds me of Katrina when ur troops basically had to run 26 miles to take out zerg expos. hell even taking a 3rd base feels shitty. half the time when you try to take 1 or 7 your stuck covering with tanks on the low ground near one of the ridges. If you don't mine+position perfectly every time u get fucked. How stupid is that? I mean seriously this game is a fucking hardmode game already why... just why.

Did I mention the temple+mineral fucking idiotjoke behind ur natural yet? No? Well guess what, whoever decided this map wasn't a fucking homonightmare already decided to add this shit which u can mine out or glitch units through. glitching Vultures/Lings through there is really fucking retarded. You can have cannon positioned at ur nat and cannons in main but if he glitches a few vultures or mines it out u can get fucked so easily.

I don't give a shit what the progaming stats are on this map btw this is the most imba and most retarded map ever. (I'm sure it's a "Protoss" favored map, BULLCRAP)

I do believe this is the worst map to grace the competitive starcraft scene in my 11 year history of playing this stupid game. It's motw on iccup right now and easily the most popular map in random public games. F that and F HBR. All I can say is the next one on one map better fucking have choke ramps or there will be hell to pay.


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they see me trollan....

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wwww
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
September 10 2009 14:17 GMT
#51
what's weird is that it's a TvZ favored map at pro level 18-13 or something, but TvZ seems really hard on that map. TvP really is imba lol. as P i can open with 12 nex ez and terran cant do jack shit :/ then i just get arbiters and my 3rd/4th and yeah recallu~~~
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
September 10 2009 14:26 GMT
#52
On September 10 2009 23:02 beetlelisk wrote:
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Good read :D now I know where I will train my ZvT skills
I will pay you for it with...

On September 10 2009 14:44 Grobyc wrote:
Those sneaky fuckers are out to get us Lucky.

And fuck Zerg just because 2hatch is imba.


Add 2nd rax before CC. This is so simple.
Use mineral trick to put like 2nd scout in Z's / P's base.
edit + the same to make it leave your own base safely (so send like 2scvs and you need 3 to make those 2 leave your base).
FOCUS FIRE MUTAS - 10 Marines with +0 kill 1 in 2 shots that is ~1second?
Use hold?


@ cliffs behind nat:
Dude, there is enough place to place a Hatchery (I've just checked) so place rax / depots there for vision and as a 2nd wall in?




BTW
On September 10 2009 22:36 ghermination wrote:
This game is hard enough. I don't need Heartbreak Ridge making it any harder.

I'm already a dumbass and choose to play Protoss as my main race. (seriously why am I playing Protoss? I think I asked why in a previous blog...) Protosson it's own is a fucking hard race to play. Every game on any map is like uberhardmode. Now add this god awful map called Heartbreak Ridge to the equation and you get some ridiculously stupid mix of uberhardmode and impossibility.

What it should have been called was fuckyouintheass ridge.

I swear EVERY possible FUCKING thing that messes with your mind is in play on HBR. First of all it's a one on one map, so say hello to bullshit cheeses 24/7. Proxy barracks in ur main?. How fucked up is that. If you spawn right side you have to wall or u pretty much get stolen gas which is pretty much gg. Especially since there are no ramps. Are you kidding me? No ramps even? At least on destination we had a ramp. As if no fucking ramps was bad enough, there's a LEDGE above your choke. rofl? Ledge above ramp is bad enough on colo2 but at least there you get a nested natural. Here any possible wall is on the inside so you still have to work your ass off to simply survive a 10/15 gate and then still have to work like a mofo for ur expo.

Your nat is a joke, positioning cannons vs muta harass is like rofl. You can place canons above but they get picked off so easily. You can position stuff below but u have no vision and he just rapes probes randomly and ur gas always gets raped. Oh and I just found out recently u can siege tanks at the third and rape the other guys nat gas TvT and other guy can't do jack shit about it. fucking homo.

There are multiple main paths to the enemy base. Your army can be pushing on one side while a million troops march for a counter and when you try to pull back all ur shit gets clusterfucked in the middle. Oh by the way why the FUCK is there a base in the middle. I swear it's probably more fucking retarded than the middle base on Andromeda. Good luck trying to take a 4th base PvT. Good luck taking out zerg expos at 11 or 5. If they position sunks correctly and have swarm the chokes into those bases is so small its gg no re. And it takes u an hour to get to those bases. Reminds me of Katrina when ur troops basically had to run 26 miles to take out zerg expos. hell even taking a 3rd base feels shitty. half the time when you try to take 1 or 7 your stuck covering with tanks on the low ground near one of the ridges. If you don't mine+position perfectly every time u get fucked. How stupid is that? I mean seriously this game is a fucking hardmode game already why... just why.

Did I mention the temple+mineral fucking idiotjoke behind ur natural yet? No? Well guess what, whoever decided this map wasn't a fucking homonightmare already decided to add this shit which u can mine out or glitch units through. glitching Vultures/Lings through there is really fucking retarded. You can have cannon positioned at ur nat and cannons in main but if he glitches a few vultures or mines it out u can get fucked so easily.

I don't give a shit what the progaming stats are on this map btw this is the most imba and most retarded map ever. (I'm sure it's a "Protoss" favored map, BULLCRAP)

I do believe this is the worst map to grace the competitive starcraft scene in my 11 year history of playing this stupid game. It's motw on iccup right now and easily the most popular map in random public games. F that and F HBR. All I can say is the next one on one map better fucking have choke ramps or there will be hell to pay.


+ Show Spoiler +
they see me trollan....

?



fix'd :D
U Gotta Skate.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 10 2009 14:29 GMT
#53
lol HBR is NOT a terran mp
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
September 10 2009 14:40 GMT
#54
HBR is a zerg map, dont blame the protoss. still havent figured out how to win pvz here without proxy 2 gating.
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 10 2009 14:44 GMT
#55
wait you have the opportunity to win with "strategic play" and you don't want to? Are you sure you should be playing protoss? Terran is always looking for more recruits~
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
September 10 2009 14:53 GMT
#56
if i played terran I would play TvT TvZ ZvP as TvP is literally impossible unless your much better than your opponent, or the map is othello.
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
September 10 2009 14:59 GMT
#57
On September 10 2009 20:04 Artosis wrote:
heartbreak ridge is actually one of the most imbalanced TvP maps ever made. Infact, it is up there with Requiem. after the northeast lan, ill do a little guide on how to tvp it. im in my 5th day of hardcore studying/playing it, hardest map ever, dont feel bad if u lose all ur games on it.


WORD!

If you think it's a terran map you should just be banned for spreading lies lol
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
September 10 2009 15:21 GMT
#58
Terrans still got something to complain about after having the best win statistics in all broadcasted games played and proven to be the most overpowered race? Sigh when will people stop being so ungrateful! I would fucking cry tears of joy when my workers have 150% health than other races while my harrassing unit can 2 shot every worker
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
September 10 2009 15:40 GMT
#59
On September 10 2009 14:17 Manifesto7 wrote:
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On September 10 2009 14:07 lazz wrote:
yeah bro, sounds like you shouldnt be playing terran if you find it so difficult/frustrating.. lol


Fuck that. Terran is the race of big dicked Vikings who rampage across the galaxies in huge battleships, rip up the ground with artillery spawned from the forges of hell, and send waves of valiant warriors to fight the freaks of science. Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop.


Fuck yeah!

I love you now Mani
Gustav_Wind
Profile Joined July 2008
United States646 Posts
September 10 2009 15:42 GMT
#60
On September 11 2009 00:21 AzureEye wrote:
Terrans still got something to complain about after having the best win statistics in all broadcasted games played and proven to be the most overpowered race? Sigh when will people stop being so ungrateful! I would fucking cry tears of joy when my workers have 150% health than other races while my harrassing unit can 2 shot every worker


vultures don't 2 shot drones before upgrade >.>
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