On September 05 2009 09:41 jodogohoo wrote: genetic? lies... you can develop it with hardwork for sure
People can develop relative pitch so well that it can be consider as useful as perfect pitch, but real perfect pitch is genetic, although people who do have it do have to be trained to utilize it. For example a kid with perfect pitch probably won't realize it until they've been playing an instrument for a few years and have studied at least some basic theory.
i have perfect pitch (see my other posts in the thread) and i know i did not have it until only about 6-7 years ago -- whereas i started playing the piano probably 11 years ago
On September 05 2009 13:37 phosphorylation wrote: I just respond to what you post on this website (which usually seems like bunch of rubbish to me) -- nothing more and nothing less. I cannot claim to have you figured out. It seems like YOU are the one making the assumptions, labeling me an idiot and claiming that I am really less smart than I think I am.
You must be either a very persistent troll or a very very stupid person, because if you think that "fanatacist probably thinks he is very clever and very funny" is not a personality judgment, then you are indeed retarded. I made no assumptions. I reacted to your judgments.
and you take things way too literally...and disappoint me i thought someone who exudes (or tries to) such chill attitude -- and you do, in your blogs and posts -- would not get so inflamed so easily about my jibes
my original statement was just my way of expressing that your random thread hijack was very unfunny and entirely not worth it
edit: and let's just drop it it seems like we have similar likes in starcraft, soccer, and snowsports i am sure we will get along just fine irl there is no need to keep such an infantile, pointless grudge against me and vice versa and when i next see a post of yours that is not to my liking (and i do, often), i will just try to ignore it, ok?
There is literally no other way to take what you have said, be it either a troll or honest. The way I act in real life is obviously different because the way I am treated in real life is different - there isn't some random dick out there who is judging me without knowing me, and if there is then it's easy to just walk away. Online it's easier to get a little fight going because I'm bored and I don't care, and it just helps me get my carrier icon that much quicker, because you know that's all I care about right now.
My original responses was a way of expressing the fact that you choose to see the negative things about me through a personality fault on your part as well as the negative outlook you have on me, which is common to people on TeamLiquid because I am largely a dick. Really I don't care that much, but given that I have time and a fair share of apathy, I may as well counter what you say logically to protect my e-penis. Understand?
On September 05 2009 13:02 Physician wrote: - if u can speak a tonal language (i.e. mandarine, cantonese, vietnamese) ur likely hood of having perfect pitch is 9 times greater than if you speak a non-tonal language (e.g English) - in other words language itself can be enough training for perfect pitch (if learned early enough) but yeah training in music helps too : )
that speaking a tonal language increases the likelihood of having perfect pitch by 9 times supports my claim that perfect pitch is developed, not "genetic"
On September 05 2009 17:38 JohnColtrane wrote: maybe its genetic in the sense that some people find it much easier to learn?
My twin brother can do it easy as shit and I find it hard as fuck. He has perfect pitch, I have a better success rate guessing which note was played than actually trying to tell the difference.
On September 05 2009 17:38 JohnColtrane wrote: maybe its genetic in the sense that some people find it much easier to learn?
My twin brother can do it easy as shit and I find it hard as fuck. He has perfect pitch, I have a better success rate guessing which note was played than actually trying to tell the difference.
Genetics yeah gogo
maybe he got all the good genes and whatever was left over you got
how? he goes D then D# (the "look" in "look AT the stars" is flatter)
I guess you could argue that the D is closer to a C# (its kind of in the middle now that I listen to it again), but I memorized it as a D so it works fine
the whole song is in B major. In this scale, a D will not occur very often, if at all, especially for a such lame band like coldplay.
the very first note i hear (played with acoustic guitar) is a very clear D#.
In defense, you claim that you were referring to when he starts singing. The "look" in "look at the stars" is sang very fleetingly (slurred and quickly). I really doubt you can use this for what you describe in the OP. But let's say you can. Even then, it goes C# (look) D# (at) C# (the) stars (D#). Since he slurs the "look" so much, more accurately, it can be described as: "(C-C#-D quickly) (look) D# (at) C# (the) D# (stars) But, C# is definitely the most prominent note of "look," which by itself is very fleeting indeed. Then, extracting the "D" from it would be a near impossible and rather foolish venture. I am 99% sure that you are off by at least a semitone.
Might want to retune that guitar, friend
edit: i'd think it would wise to seek the hallowed "D" elsewhere. may i suggest the beethoven's 9th symphony
Back to reality though, my perfect pitch is extremely broken right now.
That pretty much summarizes how much sense this post makes. I read it a couple times to try and understand it but how can something so 'perfect' be 'broken'.
On September 17 2009 17:56 phosphorylation wrote: lol this thread just got good
the whole song is in B major. In this scale, a D will not occur very often, if at all, especially for a such lame band like coldplay.
the very first note i hear (played with acoustic guitar) is a very clear D#.
In defense, you claim that you were referring to when he starts singing. The "look" in "look at the stars" is sang very fleetingly (slurred and quickly). I really doubt you can use this for what you describe in the OP. But let's say you can. Even then, it goes C# (look) D# (at) C# (the) stars (D#). Since he slurs the "look" so much, more accurately, it can be described as: "(C-C#-D quickly) (look) D# (at) C# (the) D# (stars) But, C# is definitely the most prominent note of "look," which by itself is very fleeting indeed. Then, extracting the "D" from it would be a near impossible and rather foolish venture. I am 99% sure that you are off by at least a semitone.
Might want to retune that guitar, friend
edit: i'd think it would wise to seek the hallowed "D" elsewhere. may i suggest the beethoven's 9th symphony
for the first time, i agree with fana
you're probably right, because I can't clearly hear the note when he says "look," but it really doesn't matter. like I said, I memorized it as a D rising to a D# and because of that it works fine for me. when I think of the song in my head, slowed down, its a usable reference.
and thanks for the retuning suggestion, but I check my tuning periodically with an electric tuner and it's been perfectly fine
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