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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-05 01:10:14
September 05 2009 01:09 GMT
#21
lol agreed with last three posts (before wangsta's i mean)
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Wangsta
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States776 Posts
September 05 2009 01:14 GMT
#22
On September 05 2009 10:07 mikeymoo wrote:
This isn't perfect pitch. It's some sort of relative pitch. If you have to compare notes to songs or some other memory aid, it's relative pitch.


I'm not listening to a song for reference though. I think of the song in my head (without listening to anything) and then I can remember the pitch.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-05 01:17:58
September 05 2009 01:15 GMT
#23
edit: nvm you clarified it. Work on it though because 30 seconds is a lot
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Wangsta
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States776 Posts
September 05 2009 01:17 GMT
#24
On September 05 2009 10:07 caldo149 wrote:
if it takes you 30 seconds to figure out a pitch then you don't have perfect pitch. perhaps "good" pitch haha


my understanding is that perfect pitch is just the ability to figure out what a note is, without listening to any known pitches beforehand.

so if you can hear a note, and then figure it out in your head, that's still perfect pitch (albeit poorly developed perfect pitch if it takes you a long time, like it does with me )
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
September 05 2009 01:17 GMT
#25
On September 05 2009 10:14 Wangsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2009 10:07 mikeymoo wrote:
This isn't perfect pitch. It's some sort of relative pitch. If you have to compare notes to songs or some other memory aid, it's relative pitch.


I'm not listening to a song for reference though. I think of the song in my head (without listening to anything) and then I can remember the pitch.

Yeah but you don't have perfect pitch for every note. So it's perfect for a few notes and relative for the rest. On top of that, if someone played you a note that was 10 cents off tune, I don't think you'd be able to tell.
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Wangsta
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States776 Posts
September 05 2009 01:17 GMT
#26
On September 05 2009 10:15 writer22816 wrote:
Wait, you tuned your guitar using a note for reference and you call that perfect pitch?


No, I don't use a reference note. I think of the reference note in my head (without hearing it)
Wangsta
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-05 01:20:46
September 05 2009 01:19 GMT
#27
On September 05 2009 10:17 mikeymoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2009 10:14 Wangsta wrote:
On September 05 2009 10:07 mikeymoo wrote:
This isn't perfect pitch. It's some sort of relative pitch. If you have to compare notes to songs or some other memory aid, it's relative pitch.


I'm not listening to a song for reference though. I think of the song in my head (without listening to anything) and then I can remember the pitch.

Yeah but you don't have perfect pitch for every note. So it's perfect for a few notes and relative for the rest. On top of that, if someone played you a note that was 10 cents off tune, I don't think you'd be able to tell.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_pitch

I'm not an expert on perfect pitch, but from what I've read, as long as you can figure out pitches without external aid, it's still considered some form of perfect pitch

I don't think perfect pitch requires a person to detect small changes in frequency. As long as you recognize a note within a certain range
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-05 01:21:51
September 05 2009 01:21 GMT
#28
yeah it probably wasn't very wise of you when you said "i just have found i have perfect pitch" when you have a less-than-perfect perfect pitch

people (and i) love to jump at this kind of stuff
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Wangsta
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States776 Posts
September 05 2009 01:23 GMT
#29
On September 05 2009 10:21 phosphorylation wrote:
yeah it probably wasn't very wise of you when you said "i just have found i have perfect pitch" when you have a less-than-perfect perfect pitch


AFAIK, there's no such thing as "less-than-perfect" perfect pitch. If you can hear a note and figure out what it is without outside help, you have it. If you can't, you don't

The definition given on wikipedia is
Absolute pitch (AP), or perfect pitch, is the ability to name or reproduce a tone without reference to an external standard.


It doesn't specify anything else.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
September 05 2009 01:26 GMT
#30
woot you "technically" have perfect pitch!
congrats

actually, i am pretty sure the implication in the wikipedia definition is that you will be able to recall any tone, not just ... one
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miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
September 05 2009 01:34 GMT
#31
The only person I know with "true" perfect pitch has synesthesia, and every note is a colour to her. It follows she can tell you the name of any note played.

What you're describing is pitch through a reference, which has been shown now to be possible to teach. If you're learning it quickly, that's awesome.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
September 05 2009 01:35 GMT
#32
Perfect pitch isn't musical talent.
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Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
September 05 2009 01:37 GMT
#33
pavarotti had perfect pitch

you are destined for greatness

Wangsta
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States776 Posts
September 05 2009 01:39 GMT
#34
On September 05 2009 10:26 phosphorylation wrote:
woot you "technically" have perfect pitch!
congrats

actually, i am pretty sure the implication in the wikipedia definition is that you will be able to recall any tone, not just ... one


well, after some more reading I think quasi-perfect pitch would be a more accurate description of what I have right now (at least until I can memorize the remaining notes).

its surprisingly difficult to find information on this topic, but it seems like:
quasi-perfect pitch -> one or more notes memorized
perfect pitch -> all notes memorized
absolute perfect pitch -> be able to name the approximate frequency of note

some articles label any of the above as just perfect pitch though, I'm still not sure what the exact definition is
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17038 Posts
September 05 2009 01:42 GMT
#35
On the topic of perfect pitch, something that used to bother me was during orchestra rehearsal when the concertmaster wouldn't tune to a 440 A and the entire orchestra sounded out of tune <_<
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Wangsta
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States776 Posts
September 05 2009 01:45 GMT
#36
On September 05 2009 10:37 Perguvious wrote:
pavarotti had perfect pitch

you are destined for greatness


I apologize if this blog comes off as bragging, but, honestly, give me a break. I'm not trying to give off that impression

I've only played an instrument for 2 years (teaching myself with the internet) and I had no musical training of any kind before that. I also once thought was literally tone-deaf, so this whole thing is big deal for me right now
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
September 05 2009 01:54 GMT
#37
On September 05 2009 10:45 Wangsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2009 10:37 Perguvious wrote:
pavarotti had perfect pitch

you are destined for greatness


I apologize if this blog comes off as bragging, but, honestly, give me a break. I'm not trying to give off that impression

I've only played an instrument for 2 years (teaching myself with the internet) and I had no musical training of any kind before that. I also once thought was literally tone-deaf, so this whole thing is big deal for me right now


sorry if I "offended" you or something

I was just joking, come on :D
Wangsta
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-05 02:02:10
September 05 2009 02:00 GMT
#38
On September 05 2009 10:54 Perguvious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2009 10:45 Wangsta wrote:
On September 05 2009 10:37 Perguvious wrote:
pavarotti had perfect pitch

you are destined for greatness


I apologize if this blog comes off as bragging, but, honestly, give me a break. I'm not trying to give off that impression

I've only played an instrument for 2 years (teaching myself with the internet) and I had no musical training of any kind before that. I also once thought was literally tone-deaf, so this whole thing is big deal for me right now


sorry if I "offended" you or something

I was just joking, come on :D


edit: I just realized pavarotti was a singer, nvm whatever I said about your comment lol
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
September 05 2009 02:03 GMT
#39
On September 05 2009 10:42 Empyrean wrote:
On the topic of perfect pitch, something that used to bother me was during orchestra rehearsal when the concertmaster wouldn't tune to a 440 A and the entire orchestra sounded out of tune <_<


oh my god. This kind of thing bothered me so much. That's why I always tune to a tuner when possible.

I can play a D in my head, but I have to go up the scale to figure out what the other notes sound like =/
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
September 05 2009 02:03 GMT
#40
On September 05 2009 11:00 Wangsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2009 10:54 Perguvious wrote:
On September 05 2009 10:45 Wangsta wrote:
On September 05 2009 10:37 Perguvious wrote:
pavarotti had perfect pitch

you are destined for greatness


I apologize if this blog comes off as bragging, but, honestly, give me a break. I'm not trying to give off that impression

I've only played an instrument for 2 years (teaching myself with the internet) and I had no musical training of any kind before that. I also once thought was literally tone-deaf, so this whole thing is big deal for me right now


sorry if I "offended" you or something

I was just joking, come on :D


edit: I just realized pavarotti was a singer, nvm whatever I said about your comment lol

. . .
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