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Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 03:48:26
August 18 2009 03:15 GMT
#1
Is it BM to leave a game after you completely fail a split and send one of the peons past one (or make it jump over one) of the mineral patches to the back?

I would consider leaving after your gas gets stolen (before 2 minutes) to be BM, but would this count?

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kdog3683
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States916 Posts
August 18 2009 03:18 GMT
#2
it annoys the hell out of me.

they fail split, then say 're' and expect me to join again.
Multiply your efforts.
NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
August 18 2009 03:22 GMT
#3
I fail split 80% of my games. I'm not even kidding. I'm horrible at it. =(

Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
August 18 2009 03:34 GMT
#4
If you "gg" and leave the game, it might be okay... well, on ICCup it'll be annoying because the game will be counted as a draw.

When things like this happen to me, I say "a good player should be able to beat a D player even after losing one drone... so I just need to play better!" and then I get owned anyway.
NrG.ZaM
Profile Joined March 2008
United States267 Posts
August 18 2009 03:35 GMT
#5
I don't think I'd consider it BM to leave after a failed split, it's just mildly annoying and a slight waste of time, but nothing to be offended about. I've never left from a bad split though, I don't see it as big enough of a disadvantage to warrant actually quitting. Only time I probably would leave after split is if I managed to permanently trap a worker or something.

And on the subject of leaving after gas being stolen, I'd consider that GM since you can report it and get a free win and they get a 250 point penalty :p
Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
August 18 2009 03:43 GMT
#6
why dont you just learn to split....
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
August 18 2009 03:47 GMT
#7
On August 18 2009 12:43 Cube wrote:
why dont you just learn to split....

I can split... I assume you split perfectly every single game?
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
August 18 2009 03:54 GMT
#8
You can't seriously be asking that... it is so incredibly BM. Should you rejoin for every mistake you make? Man up and take the hit, not like it makes a difference at your level anyways.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
August 18 2009 04:10 GMT
#9
It is so annoying when they do that :|
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Agro_Z
Profile Joined April 2008
United States138 Posts
August 18 2009 04:10 GMT
#10
I would say, just live with the split. The difference between a good split and a split that causes one of your scvs to go all the way around to the back of the minerals isn't game breaking.

I would consider it a little BM. When I match up with someone, my opponent and I are both agreeing to play a game. If I simply leave or demand "re" because of some little mistake I made, then I've just effectively wasted my opponent's time haven't I?
"Don't put things off, put them over" - fortune cookie
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
August 18 2009 04:29 GMT
#11
a bad split doesnt cost you much at all. the game is still going to be dependent upon mechanics and game sense way more than some worker hop over minerals stuff.

just eep playing.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
August 18 2009 04:31 GMT
#12
On August 18 2009 12:47 Try wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 12:43 Cube wrote:
why dont you just learn to split....

I can split... I assume you split perfectly every single game?

99 out of 100 times yes...
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
August 18 2009 04:32 GMT
#13
This is like saying if all four of my starting peons don't come back at the same time, it ruins the mineral flow (because if they all come back at the same time, then sometimes the timings of building stuff seems to flow better), then you should leave the game. You're making your opponent waste some time playing a useless game for, at most, 8-16 minerals behind, and you just get away. It is very BM, and deal with it. It's about as BM as 4pooling on Python, and if you don't find him first, then you leave.
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 17:59:08
August 18 2009 06:04 GMT
#14
how can you seriously think you putting yourself at a disadvantage? You not even 8 minerals behind, they just delayed and your first worker will be made on time even if you split bad, you only need 50 minerals, not 64. lets say you made your 2nd worker with 6 minerals left and that drone coming back late to add 8 more, which will happen before others come back, so its 14 mins and you only need 36 which 3 drones cover on time anyways. So you continue making scvs nonstop no matter what, you not wasting 8 minerals either, they just delayed and its soo insignificant. Ive seen some really good players send all workers to 1 patch just bcause it was a friendly game and they were eating or talking on msn and then proceed to play for another 30 minutes in absolutely equal game
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
August 18 2009 06:07 GMT
#15
I only leave if it's like a epic fail split, like two SCVs mining one patch and the other jumps across a patch. =T
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 18 2009 06:08 GMT
#16
Instead of thinking about how minerals you're behind, think of it in terms of time. You're one, two seconds behind. At most. I've checked.
Jaedong
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
August 18 2009 06:10 GMT
#17
IIRC it was possible to get a worker stuck on Katrina (I think 3 o'clock) by jumping it over with a failed split. I would totally leave if that happened.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
August 18 2009 06:20 GMT
#18
On August 18 2009 15:07 clazziquai wrote:
I only leave if it's like a epic fail split, like two SCVs mining one patch and the other jumps across a patch. =T


yea, this. if the scv is floating through minerals because of epic fail, then yeah, maybe. otherwise, the effects are negligible.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 18 2009 06:51 GMT
#19
how can you seriously think messing up your split impacts the game to need a re. I mean boxer killed one of his at the start and rolled over rek
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 07:26:34
August 18 2009 07:26 GMT
#20
On August 18 2009 15:10 Saracen wrote:
IIRC it was possible to get a worker stuck on Katrina (I think 3 o'clock) by jumping it over with a failed split. I would totally leave if that happened.


Erm, yeah... that would be me.

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