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TLnet Poll - When should Blizzard release a balance patch…

When should Blizzard release a balance patch for HotS? :

After 1 - 3 months. (11471)48%
As soon as possible. (7387)31%
After 4 - 6 months. (3275)14%
After 6+ months / never. (1827)8%

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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 18 2013 02:45 GMT
#1
I say 2-3 months. Soonest should be after gsl. Despite my complaints of ZvT and ZvP lategame, I do agree the zerg representation wasn't the best at IEM and MLG and the gsl should be a far better gauge of where zerg is on the top end.
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Kreggar
Profile Joined September 2011
United States83 Posts
March 18 2013 02:48 GMT
#2
I like the idea of letting players figure things out over several months, but since this is still a new game and largely a mystery, it may need patching sooner.
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geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
March 18 2013 02:49 GMT
#3
I feel like it depends on what the metagame looks like. If it's gotten to a point where every game is starting to look the same and all the races are just doing the same exact build every game, clearly something needs to change. But who really knows how long it could take for something like that to emerge. Maybe a specific build emerges that is clearly too optimal within a month or maybe there is a good variety for half a year. We'll see.
eg.TM
Profile Joined August 2012
2 Posts
March 18 2013 02:52 GMT
#4
After the next GSL, whenever that is. I didn't find too much issues during the MLG, in the end the best players won.
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
March 18 2013 02:53 GMT
#5
Wheres the option "when theres a glaring imbalance"
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Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
March 18 2013 03:00 GMT
#6
Just let it rock for a while
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iiGreetings
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada563 Posts
March 18 2013 03:41 GMT
#7
Honestly, I think 1 month is a little to soon even though I voted for 1-3. They really should let the meta evolve and let players really work the limitations of each race currently, and frankly, that probably won't be done by april 15th.
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BlackPride
Profile Joined July 2012
United States186 Posts
March 18 2013 04:19 GMT
#8
I think GSL will be pretty ridiculous if they keep balance where it is now.
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HeyAngel_01
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada12 Posts
March 18 2013 04:27 GMT
#9
I'd say that the Blizzard team should watch the next few major starcraft tournaments and see the meta between the races. I think a balance update can occur from 1-3 months (which I voted). So far, widow mines are the most prioritized unit to be nerfed by the Starcraft community, though I have no opinion on them.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
March 18 2013 04:53 GMT
#10
*cough* medivac speed boost *cough*
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ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
March 18 2013 05:04 GMT
#11
On March 18 2013 13:53 mizU wrote:
*cough* medivac speed boost *cough*

no nerfing plz just buff other races stuff
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
March 18 2013 05:09 GMT
#12
When needed. That could be in two weeks or never. Right now, after this MLG, the data pool is too small to conclude anything, and overall things are fine.
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kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
March 18 2013 05:12 GMT
#13
Soon. Void Ray is game-breaking in PvP.
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WIllBIll
Profile Joined June 2011
590 Posts
March 18 2013 05:37 GMT
#14
Atleast wait untill GSL is well underway. Need a larger sample size of games to be 100% sure something needs patching.
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
March 18 2013 05:40 GMT
#15
wait atleast till gsl finals
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macncheezeplz
Profile Joined June 2011
United States93 Posts
March 18 2013 05:44 GMT
#16
3 months sounds like a fine amount of time. IEM, and even MLG, featured mostly WoL tactics. Terran out shined this time around partly because of how well WoL tactics work with medivac boost. I would agree with many people here that a season of GSL would be the greatest gauge for actual game balance.
M,J,Y
Profile Joined February 2012
New Zealand16 Posts
March 18 2013 07:10 GMT
#17
1-3 is a good amount of time, people sometimes call OP to quickly when in some games its both the skill of one player against a lesser player + the lack of knowledge of how to deal with a said strat.

And even the opposite happens, Life made it look like Terran was not strong at all but for us mortals Terran is a real handful.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
March 18 2013 07:38 GMT
#18
I think they should implement a patch the morning of the GSL finals, perfect timing really.

Honestly though, just wait it out.
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MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
March 18 2013 08:04 GMT
#19
Give it half a year . Zerg was weak in WoL back when the game first came out as Zergs have not figured things out yet while Terran and Protoss have very obvious tech paths and their units are generally better than all zerg units in tiers
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Ackee
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden11 Posts
March 18 2013 09:07 GMT
#20
I'd say as long as takes before blizzard has figured out how to nerf protoss air play (Void Rays, Oracles) so it becomes weaker but not shit. I really like that protoss got a harass unit but what I don't understand is why it can kill marines.
The void ray is just ridic atm, everytime I try to go 1 rax expo (gasless) they just proxxy stargate and 3 gates and just end the game.

Example: ROOTLeiya vs (Ragequit)QXC

The void ray ATM is a little bit too good.
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