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TLnet Poll - SC2 production?

SC2 production? :

GomTV's GSL (7524)71%
OGN's WCG Korea (3082)29%

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Khalleb
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1909 Posts
September 24 2011 21:54 GMT
#1
how can gom be ahead of ogn :O
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Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
September 24 2011 21:59 GMT
#2
well, if you broadcast in 4:3 low res... what would you expect? Also obs is imho better in gomTV. Or at least from what I saw today.
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Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
September 24 2011 22:07 GMT
#3
Yeah I'm not going to lie, 4:3 low res is unacceptable.
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Sith Inquisitor
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany113 Posts
September 24 2011 22:09 GMT
#4
Korean only = Baddest Production EVER!
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unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
September 24 2011 22:10 GMT
#5
i think that OGN, if they picked up sc2 genuinely and switched to broadcasting in high res would be far better than gomtv (well they would need english casters that arent tastosis [gomtv already works them hard enough] to keep foreign interest) the obs in OGN wasn't bad imo and i do feel that a sc2 OSL would be amazing (sadly i dont think that gomtv/blizz will allow that T_T)
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
September 24 2011 22:20 GMT
#6
On September 25 2011 06:59 Ammanas wrote:
well, if you broadcast in 4:3 low res... what would you expect? Also obs is imho better in gomTV. Or at least from what I saw today.

you are wrong! i liked the obs way more than the one at gom. might be because i hate it when tastosis are making calls for the observer. i would prefer them to just cast what they see and comment on this things later on...
plus i dont think all people that voted watched ogn yesterday...
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dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
September 24 2011 22:22 GMT
#7
On September 25 2011 06:59 Ammanas wrote:
well, if you broadcast in 4:3 low res... what would you expect? Also obs is imho better in gomTV. Or at least from what I saw today.


Yeah. Somebody said "music, casting, observing" was all better at WCG.

Casting in a language I can't understand vs Tasteosis = GSL
Music = about even (I like GSL's selection a lot)
Observing = WCG

However the quality was very bad... so, yeah.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 22:29:20
September 24 2011 22:28 GMT
#8
It's not like GomTv's free quality is much better than 4:3 and whatnot...

I have a suspicion that the team that did BW for OGN took over this SC2 gig, so the obs and casting should be pretty good. I don't think Korean has ever stopped anyone that doesn't speak it, the Korean casters tend to be very energetic and set positive mood, even if you don't speak the language.

So yeah... how is GomTv winning this poll?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 24 2011 22:34 GMT
#9
The only thing I like more about GomTV is the fact that they have English Commentary, but that's no reason to select them over OGN. It wouldn't surprise me if OGN picked up some English casters if they started doing sc2 full time anyways.
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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
September 24 2011 22:40 GMT
#10
Better observing/camera shots on the players from OGN but they didn't use the spectator interface very well and of course it's in 4:3. Gotta give it to GSL, though both are great, and GSL is constantly improving.

People shouldn't be so negative about GOM in comparison...they're two different animals, a web-based TV channel in comparison to a country-wide broadcasted TV channel (I'm sure I could have worded that so much better), for GOM to be as good as it is is impressive.

Hopefully we can see more SC2 from OGN even after this WCG finishes.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 22:46:07
September 24 2011 22:41 GMT
#11
Gom's better parts:

1- They have flames.
2- Higher resolution which doesn't matter for people who don't pay.
3- Casting in English which is worse than Korean casters/commentators anyway.

OGN's better parts:

1- Much better observer
2- Much better casters (No offense but I'd never watch Tastosis and Gom observer when there is Kingdom/Kim Carrier/TheMarine and OGN observer around).
3- The advantage of being on Cable.
4- Times and times as much production value.
5- Easily accessible streams and VODs.
6- You don't need to download a player and pay for VODs.

Answer: Still asking?

On September 25 2011 07:28 Nikon wrote:
So yeah... how is GomTv winning this poll?

OGN is not trying to kill BW, that's how. For some reason, SC2 only guys have a tendency to troll BW forums with their "happiness" when there is a news of a team or channel disbanding. That gave me the impression.
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Bradleo
Profile Joined September 2011
United States9 Posts
September 24 2011 22:54 GMT
#12
On September 25 2011 06:54 KhAlleB wrote:
how can gom be ahead of ogn :O

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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
September 24 2011 22:56 GMT
#13
I'm completely lost as to how people can discern that casters using a language they don't understand are better than casters using one they do.
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
September 24 2011 22:56 GMT
#14
I sincerely hope people actually watch the WCG casts before clicking on GOM. Yeah, you know who you are.
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stormssc
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland125 Posts
September 24 2011 22:57 GMT
#15
I gladly give up quality of video in favor of the Casting Archon. Listening to Koreans irritates me.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 23:06:22
September 24 2011 23:03 GMT
#16
On September 25 2011 07:56 Node wrote:
I'm completely lost as to how people can discern that casters using a language they don't understand are better than casters using one they do.


It's not like you're totally oblivious to what they're saying, they use many English terms. I've even picked up some Korean words by watching so much BW

If you don't think that their energetic casting brings out the best of the game, watch this for example:

The crowd is also very energetic here.

If you still don't believe it... well...

Ooops, those are the crazy MBC commentators. Still, their OGN counterparts aren't lesser in any way.
Cassel_Castle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States820 Posts
September 24 2011 23:04 GMT
#17
OGN studio is in a mall, GOM studios is in a high school auditorium. So OGN got a crowd for the Ro32 of a tournament no one cares much about (WCG Korea) comparable to a crowd GOM gets for semifinals of the biggest SC2 tournament in the world.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 23:20:29
September 24 2011 23:18 GMT
#18
On September 25 2011 06:59 Ammanas wrote:
well, if you broadcast in 4:3 low res... what would you expect? Also obs is imho better in gomTV. Or at least from what I saw today.


Yeah that gomtv observer that always freaks out when multiple things are going on is way better than the OGN veteran that has been doing this for years. I'd need more fingers to count how many times Artosis and Tasteless tell us about something that went on but the observer missed it.

Korean commentators actually know what they are talking about and their excitement doesn't bore me to sleep unlike the Code A guys. Tastosis is what keeps me coming back to watching GomTvT but it feels like lately they are absent from a lot of the events GOM now runs.
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
September 24 2011 23:19 GMT
#19
The biggest thing that struck me is... if we're talking about production quality, then how can OGN be happy with that crappy little white box overlay they throw down in the bottom right?

90% of what we watch is the actual GAME, so couldn't they have at least found a better overlay?
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 24 2011 23:24 GMT
#20
Wow I can't believe you guys put up a poll haha.
Well I'll say last night I was excited to watch SC2 without understanding the casters language. Maybe it was Milkis flipping out in ecstasy at the casting or myself greedily waiting for someone to translate any bit they were saying..

It was really exciting. Really really exciting!
Maybe more exciting than GSL? I don't know, too soon to tell. Definitely just as exciting as an En cast though!
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