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nDragan
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada31 Posts
September 27 2011 14:49 GMT
#161
as long as you pay for the VODs/high quality, the GSL is better for an English-speaking person in almost every way imo. It is tough to argue that there are more interesting English-speaking casters out there (although there are definately more knowledgeable casters) than Tastosis, and on top of that with a subscription it is much better quality. Therefore in terms of pure entertainment value for SC2, it is tough to argue that OGN will provide better entertainment.

In terms of education, observer quality, knowledge of casters, etc, that is all tough to argue and to some extent subjective.
Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
September 27 2011 15:20 GMT
#162
The Korean commentary is great. I wish there was an option to watch the Korean GOM stream. I don't speak a word of Korean, but you can really feel their energy. And Boxer co-casting is just awesome haha
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
September 27 2011 16:40 GMT
#163
OGN with proper resolution and english casters > GOM.

the observer and seamlessness was just really great.

http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Jacopana
Profile Joined September 2009
El Salvador210 Posts
September 27 2011 18:19 GMT
#164
ogn is ahead cuz there are so many new players that didnt know about the bw scene and the art of their production, they are more exciting that goms, korean and english xP even I love Tastosis <3
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 20:00:10
September 27 2011 19:59 GMT
#165
On September 27 2011 08:31 Goibon wrote:
If the observer counts as production, then OGN win by default. It's just... i can't get over how good he was.

With GSL MLG whatever event, you name it, i'm always looking at supply counts and stuff because their observers fail to show me everything. Almost every single game we hear Tastosis say something important is happening which we can't see and have to take their word for it, like a hellion drop at a natural or something like that but we never see it, or get a full grasp of what damage was done. Without fail, the observing fails.

This OGN broski's level of multitasking feels like its matching what the players are doing. He is accurately representing their abilities through his observing and letting me know exactly what is happening in the game at all times without showing me irrelevant crap instead. The other observers look like foreign players getting dropped by MMA all over the place and just falling apart by comparison.

Now if he doesn't count as production, then i give the edge to GOM. OGN was great with their recaps and everything, but GOM is a lot prettier and that does matter some.

Wanted t omake a post like this but didn't managed to express it correctly.
THIS THIS THIS !
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#166
Honestly just give subscribers both the En and Kr streams and I'll be happy. The observer on GOMs Korean stream is much better than the one on the En stream and it makes me upset that I can either miss out on all the jokes the LR is laughing about or catch all the excitement of the game through a good obs.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
September 27 2011 22:59 GMT
#167
The language that the casters use has nothing to do with production.
Kim Tae Gyun.... never forget Perfectman RIP
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
September 27 2011 23:12 GMT
#168
Seems more like people are comparing GSL to OSL.

Of course OSL is awesome, but that's not what we're getting with the WCG casts. OGN is new to this game and have a lot of things to tighten up. One day, maybe soon, they will be putting out the highest quality production but right now the only thing they seem better at is the voice inflection of the commentators.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
September 27 2011 23:13 GMT
#169
Yes, there shouldn't be a dedicated 'English' observer. I'm sure GOM viewership would increase if they had a better observer.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
September 27 2011 23:19 GMT
#170
On September 28 2011 04:59 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 08:31 Goibon wrote:
If the observer counts as production, then OGN win by default. It's just... i can't get over how good he was.

With GSL MLG whatever event, you name it, i'm always looking at supply counts and stuff because their observers fail to show me everything. Almost every single game we hear Tastosis say something important is happening which we can't see and have to take their word for it, like a hellion drop at a natural or something like that but we never see it, or get a full grasp of what damage was done. Without fail, the observing fails.

This OGN broski's level of multitasking feels like its matching what the players are doing. He is accurately representing their abilities through his observing and letting me know exactly what is happening in the game at all times without showing me irrelevant crap instead. The other observers look like foreign players getting dropped by MMA all over the place and just falling apart by comparison.

Now if he doesn't count as production, then i give the edge to GOM. OGN was great with their recaps and everything, but GOM is a lot prettier and that does matter some.

Wanted t omake a post like this but didn't managed to express it correctly.
THIS THIS THIS !

OMG QFT THANK YOU.
i am SO sick of casters relying on progress bars. Stop telling me what will happen, give me suspense, start screaming, and get an amazing observer.
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
September 28 2011 03:53 GMT
#171
this is a terrible poll to put up. OGN's WCG coverage isnt free so many people cannot vote!
kazie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
258 Posts
September 28 2011 04:20 GMT
#172
Well, GOM's production is way better, but I enjoyed OGN more. Epic casters from BW and that face zooming.
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 06:18:08
September 28 2011 06:08 GMT
#173
Hm, I think the only thing I liked better about OGN was the player shots during the game where they zoom in on the face, GOM really needs to do that. I'm not sure how I feel about the studio. GOM looks cool and all but idk it somehow feels less professional than OGN's clean whites, not sure which I prefered really.

Saying OGN is better because of korean casters is stupid, it has nothing to do with OGN vs GOM. GOM has great korean casters too if that's what you want and if OGN did SC2 they would certainly get some english casters just like GOM because SC2 is fueled largely by international viewers. I'm sure any of you would still eventually end up watching the english because hearing intelligent discussion in a language you understand is nice once you get over the excitement of hearing crazy koreans talk fast. Anyways point is its stupid to act like OGN is better because korean casting when GOM has korean casting too if that's what you want and OGN would add english casting too if they switched fully to sc2 and streamed online.
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
September 28 2011 08:45 GMT
#174
I've only seen the WCG games and one OSL match. The studio looks much nicer from OGN, (GOMs studio feels so small)

But that's probably just because in Korea BW >>> SC2 and logically OGN has normally huger audiences.

Aside from the studio both do a great job and I really can't decide. Korean casts may be nice from time to time, but normally I will always prefer Tastosis over anbody else commentating
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 28 2011 11:33 GMT
#175
On September 28 2011 08:19 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 04:59 MrCon wrote:
On September 27 2011 08:31 Goibon wrote:
If the observer counts as production, then OGN win by default. It's just... i can't get over how good he was.

With GSL MLG whatever event, you name it, i'm always looking at supply counts and stuff because their observers fail to show me everything. Almost every single game we hear Tastosis say something important is happening which we can't see and have to take their word for it, like a hellion drop at a natural or something like that but we never see it, or get a full grasp of what damage was done. Without fail, the observing fails.

This OGN broski's level of multitasking feels like its matching what the players are doing. He is accurately representing their abilities through his observing and letting me know exactly what is happening in the game at all times without showing me irrelevant crap instead. The other observers look like foreign players getting dropped by MMA all over the place and just falling apart by comparison.

Now if he doesn't count as production, then i give the edge to GOM. OGN was great with their recaps and everything, but GOM is a lot prettier and that does matter some.

Wanted t omake a post like this but didn't managed to express it correctly.
THIS THIS THIS !

OMG QFT THANK YOU.
i am SO sick of casters relying on progress bars. Stop telling me what will happen, give me suspense, start screaming, and get an amazing observer.

I have to admit that before OGN I was always whining when the observers didn't showed production tab. But the OGN observing is telling a story you can understand without tabs <3 He's really at another level of the GOM observer, which is already at another level compared to foreign observers (Hotbid excepted, Hotbid is GOOD at this)
dvide
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom287 Posts
September 28 2011 14:57 GMT
#176
I voted for GOM after watching Game 1 of Group B, NesTea vs GuMiho, because of the abysmal aspect ratio. It literally gave me a headache watching it. It looked all stretched and ugly, and reading this thread made me think that all of the games were going to be like that. But then I watched the recap of it before game 2 and it was much better? And game 2 itself looks better too.

Here's a comparison:
http://i.imgur.com/xvdX5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hmu5z.jpg
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