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RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
September 25 2011 02:20 GMT
#41
I had a feeling that OGN still broadcasts from the stone age with 4:3 ratio. Unfortunately I was right. Just gives me a overall impression that streaming technologies over there are terribly behind.

It's not just compacted into 4:3 ration either. The actual setup is 4:3, so you are losing out of watch you are seeing in overall space. SC2 was designed for widescreen, so this ain't something you can adjust to. It just feels wrong when watching.

My only other complaint, because its not fair to compare multilingual casting support, is what OGN traditionally does but is a pet peeve of mine. When one person wins a match, they show the loser first and this has always irritated me ages ago.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Dazer
Profile Joined September 2010
239 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 02:30:12
September 25 2011 02:28 GMT
#42
Personally, I don't need to understand the language to feel the hype from the commentators. As great as Tastosis is, if GomTV have Korean stream available for me, I would switch to that anytime even though I don't have a clue what they're talking about.

Plus, OGN have great production, screamo music before the matches, dramatic headshot...etc. Gomtv is way behind imo. MLG, Dreamhack is way outclassed by what I saw on WCG. Shit never felt so real from watching SC2 until now.

Shit's getting real son!

PS: And big deal on the resolution, stop being so god damn picky. That problem can be easily fix compare to other things that OGN excels at.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 02:35:39
September 25 2011 02:34 GMT
#43
I prefer OGN to GOM for the casters. I cannot understand them but they never miss anything happening in the game. Poll will always have GOM winning due to English casters. I don't care who broadcasts just as long as I get to watch!

Voted for OGN because I love the casters enthusiasm and of course when they say the English word even though they are translated in this game. ^^;

4:3 resolution is not the end of the world.
Brood War forever!
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 25 2011 02:39 GMT
#44
This poll is very premature. OGN just start broadcasting SC2. They still have a ton of details to refine about their production. On the other hand, they come with many cute production decisions that I think are superior to the way GOM has been handling it. Just not a reasonable moment to compare.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
September 25 2011 02:50 GMT
#45
OGN 100%~

Don't get me wrong man, GOM has stepped their shit up since the Avertec Classics, which.. weren't bad, but were definitely not stellar either. I love how GOM provides English commentary, and we all love Tastosis, but the passion, professionalism, experience and legacy of OGN is something that is incomparable.

OnGameNet's production value is the highest of any gaming tournament in the world; far superior to MLG or anything else I can even think of, in terms of commentators, animations, graphics, crowds (I can only speak for BW crowds since we don't know what OGN SC2 crowds are standardized as) and legacy.
C r u m b l i n g
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
September 25 2011 03:20 GMT
#46
OGN without a doubt. It's not StarCraft without screaming in Korean.
I used to have an Oz icon over here ---->
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
September 25 2011 03:36 GMT
#47
Gom has a better setup in terms of in game broadcasting, but OGN owns them when it comes to showing anything else imo. If the in game quality was a bit better, OGN would be better than Gom in every way imo.
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
September 25 2011 03:58 GMT
#48
Wow some people must not appreciate the dramatic zoom... I really liked the OGN obsing and the Korean commentary was a nice change, added a lot of excitement. BW booths was another nice touch, really enjoyed it.

Now we just need Tasteosis to boogie on over there.
jeremysaint
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada80 Posts
September 25 2011 04:06 GMT
#49
the music is really not a consideration for me, although i have liked and ended up picking up music from gsl (charo emerald's absolutely me).

until ogn starts casting in english it really doesnt matter what they do. i will buy the occassional season of gsl but with no english casting i would never buy ogn's series. however i suspect ogn will start casting in english as well, and at that point i really look forward to watching them. i rarely get to watch games with my favorite korean players, and a second league can only increase the chances that i will get to see more of julyzerg or mma.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
September 25 2011 04:10 GMT
#50
I voted for OGN. Not calling the GOM production bad(its fantastic) and GOM does have HD but OGN has a lot of experience and it shows. In the end GOm could learn a few things from OGN to add to their already fantastic production.

Music wise... I actually like the Music GOM uses, more than what OGN uses, but oh well opinions.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
salito
Profile Joined May 2010
1647 Posts
September 25 2011 04:12 GMT
#51
mindset of a majority of voters: "wat is OGN? Gom is GSL right? i vote gom."

another silly poll
Nature moves in the shortest way possible.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
September 25 2011 04:15 GMT
#52
All I have to say is if your biggest complaint is the 4:3 aspect ratio, then OGN is doing pretty damn well.

I'm actually surprised by how much Gom is winning this poll. I thought OGN had aspects that were absolutely superb.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 25 2011 04:19 GMT
#53
OGN hands down

the only flaw is that ratio but that is an issue easily resolved

The obsing, the commentators, the lighting, the (deadpan) doom zooms

its all fucking awesome.
WriterXiao8~~
salito
Profile Joined May 2010
1647 Posts
September 25 2011 04:26 GMT
#54
this poll showed up way too early. We've had 2 events on OGN so far. If a user hasn't watched it, then they'll vote gom.
Nature moves in the shortest way possible.
mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 05:22:58
September 25 2011 05:19 GMT
#55
OGN is like the best production there is.

The quality of it is just fucking amazing.

PS. Not to mention the Observer - KING.


EDIT

And for those who talk that stream quality is shit vs GOM are just stupid. Haven't u forgot how sc2 was when u could re-stream it on TL?

If you want OGN in HD go to ongamenet.com - Register and watch it for FREE in HD.
Zaxro
Profile Joined November 2009
United States261 Posts
September 25 2011 05:32 GMT
#56
GOM has two main advantages that I see that would give them an edge in the poll

1.They have good English casters-No casters doesn't bug me as I watched BW for years with either my music playing or listening to the Korean commentators
2. They broadcast in a better resolution-This is the only real complaint I have about OGN broadcasting SC2

But in my mind all of that is overidden by the excellent zooms on players faces, something that I think has been missing from SC2, which just makes the whole thing fell much better. Also OGN's Studio>Gom's studio, as do OGN's shots of the crowd. Also OGN has better obsing, though that is something that doesn't bother me (after obsing is to a certain level of competant I don't really care, but OGN's obsing is notably very very good).

I voted OGN, but I can see why people voted for GOM as I think many find them fairly significant, for a good reason
gCgCrypto
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany297 Posts
September 25 2011 05:34 GMT
#57
OGN brings back BroodWar feelings! i Love the way of the production!!!
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
September 25 2011 06:10 GMT
#58
OGN just reminds me of some great BW games. GOM is always just a little underwhelming
`~` | effOrt Movie sKyHigh forever & SEn
Grayson Carlyle
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 06:23:37
September 25 2011 06:13 GMT
#59
On September 25 2011 11:50 gulati wrote:
OnGameNet's production value is the highest of any gaming tournament in the world; far superior to MLG or anything else I can even think of, in terms of commentators, animations, graphics, crowds (I can only speak for BW crowds since we don't know what OGN SC2 crowds are standardized as) and legacy.


That's not what the poll is for though. Have you actually watched OGN's SC2? I waited until I had to vote. Inter-game crap is useless, who cares about it? OGN cuts out of action shots to get headshots of players, Obs isn't used to SC2 yet, it's broadcast in 4:3 with a non-adaptive codec (so things never "come into focus"; you can't read any numbers at all on the OGN broadcast), with shitty computers using low graphics settings and lastly they spend far too much time between games. For the actual games, GOM > OGN. Nothing else matters.

Yah, it feels like it's still Brood War being played. And that's bad, because this is 2011. It looks like it's being broadcast on a TV from 1987. Someone said a cable TV broadcast was a good thing. I don't think they've actually watched any modern technology e-sports broadcast and have only been watching BW. Cable TV broadcasts in 320p are ruining e-sports.
Take what ye can
Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
September 25 2011 06:19 GMT
#60
4:3 and the graphics they put up aren't as good. The only plus for OGN is the recap after the breaks, but although that's professional it's rather annoying to watch if you saw it already.
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