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TLnet Poll - Who has had a greater impact on the Protoss r…

Who has had a greater impact on the Protoss race? :

Bisu (875)44%
Nal_ra (652)33%
Reach (184)9%
GARIMTO (170)9%
Stork (61)3%
Anytime (25)1%

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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 08 2009 04:45 GMT
#1
I predict Bisu is going to win this poll, but Nal_ra really should imo
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diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
May 08 2009 04:46 GMT
#2
yep voted nal_ra, definitely the most influential
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AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
May 08 2009 04:47 GMT
#3
dreamer of protoss man.

without him back in 2006 the savior-era, if it wasnt for him to invent the sair reaver on acardia. protoss would never see the light in P v Z

nalra fighting!
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
May 08 2009 04:48 GMT
#4
Nal_rA is definitely the most influential.
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SilentNoodle
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia290 Posts
May 08 2009 04:49 GMT
#5
Nal_rA of course!
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DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
May 08 2009 04:49 GMT
#6
Ra will win hands down.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-08 04:52:58
May 08 2009 04:50 GMT
#7
ra garimto bisu stork anytime reach

Imo the order who was most influential in changing paradigms/builds with toss.

I hate how stork made every toss on iccup play so abusive.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
May 08 2009 04:50 GMT
#8
Without a question in my mind it has to be rA.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
May 08 2009 04:54 GMT
#9
Nal_rA, and anyone who votes otherwise is a blabbering lunatic.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 08 2009 04:56 GMT
#10
Anytime is probably the least likely to win this poll, but imo he's done a lot more for the game than Bisu, which sounds weird. Anytime (along with Pusan) formulated the standard protoss response to the fd rush (which was incredibly powerful back in the day) in addition to creating standard macro protoss (along with Pusan, again). Then in 2006 he basically set Bisu up for his revolution by pioneering the heavy use of Corsairs against Zerg (see anytime vs Gorush/GGPlay on Tau cross form shinhan 2) indeed his Corsair/Zealot strategy was pretty cool. In addition to that he was a part of the set of Protoss who standardized the FE.
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MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
May 08 2009 05:00 GMT
#11
(P)Stork revolutionized the way Protoss react to Terrans who get their tank sniped after a fast CC.

For that he gets my vote
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-08 05:04:41
May 08 2009 05:04 GMT
#12
On May 08 2009 13:56 Plexa wrote:something positive about Anytime


Coming from Plexa this means a lot, in case anyone didn't know
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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
May 08 2009 05:14 GMT
#13
i r voted nal-ra
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
May 08 2009 05:14 GMT
#14
Plexa, are you allowed to write positive things about Anytime?

Also, could you write a paragraph like that about each person in the list? In particular, I'm not sure what GARIMTO did, since he was so oldschool.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 08 2009 05:18 GMT
#15
I hate Bisu, but I would have to vote for him.

He revolutionized PvZ at least =/

rA would have been my 2nd choice.
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iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
May 08 2009 05:19 GMT
#16
Nal_ra no contest. Why the hell is Bisu so close in votes to Nal_ra?!
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LeperKahn
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Romania1852 Posts
May 08 2009 05:24 GMT
#17
On May 08 2009 14:19 iLoveKTF wrote:
Nal_ra no contest. Why the hell is Bisu so close in votes to Nal_ra?!


Making PvZ something winnable seems like an accomplishment to me.
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
May 08 2009 05:41 GMT
#18
Nal_ra!!! But I bet Bisu will win
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 08 2009 05:45 GMT
#19
On May 08 2009 14:24 LeperKahn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2009 14:19 iLoveKTF wrote:
Nal_ra no contest. Why the hell is Bisu so close in votes to Nal_ra?!


Making PvZ something winnable seems like an accomplishment to me.
Who originally made PvZ winnable? Nal_ra

Nal_ra's CV trumps all of these players imo. He is the Protoss parallel of Boxer, doing such crazy moves as the Recall rush vs Goodfriend on Parallel lines, 4 probe rushing some poor zerg on LT, and cannon rushing vs terran. He also dominated the shit out of Neo Guillotine, arguably creating the first highly successful FE PvZ build. As time went on, though, he moved onto developing "Splash Protoss" i.e. Sair/Reaver from island only play to standard maps. It became considered the perfect PvZ strategy, and usually opened with a fast expand. Sair/Reaver became a difficult weapon to stop (see Ra vs July on Raid Assault) and it was probably the first big macro revolution in PvZ as well (considering the success of the is semi-dependent on a fast 3rd). But Nal_ra's contribution to PvZ dont end there, Nal_ra also pioneered the use of Reavers in the lategame in PvZ (see the holywars between Nal_ra and savior, check my blog for more details).

His work in PvT is lesser than his PvZ contribution, but nevertheless it is evident. He was one of the first protoss to explore the use of arbiters in PvT (basically unheard of before 2005) which was later developed by Pusan/Anytime/Stork. And then in 2005 he became the first Protoss to successfully execute the 12Nexus on a land map (R-Point) and win. 12Nex quickly became a part of the standard PvT arsenal on big maps (still regularly used today, thx ra!). He is an icon for the Protoss race and is the epitome of everything great about Protoss.

Stork's contributions are quite subtle, and indeed is probably the least influential. In his 2005 days he was one of the best users of Sair/Reaver (see Stork vs Gorush, Stork vs Savior) and assisted in developing the Arbiter (see Nada's tour of Aiur courtesy of Stork) but it wasn't until 2007 when he made significant contributions. His only contribution, really, is the standardization of Modern PvT (ie use of Reavers religiously as an opening after a fast expo). Which isn't quite that impressive.

Bisu's contributions lie in his PvZ ability which lead Protoss onto a great era. His PvT contributions are near zero, although he did assist in developing modern PvT. His use of Corsairs and DT in PvZ is his contribution really.

Reach has done a lot for Protoss over the years. He is the father of Modern Macro Protoss and was the only protoss who could push oov to his limit. In PvZ i'm not quite sure what he did.. My memory gets a little fuzzy before 2005 xD
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De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
May 08 2009 05:53 GMT
#20
Lol, this is like one of those map polls with Python in it. Everyone in the thread says "DESTINATION!!" or whatever, and Python still ends up winning somehow. Seriously, I only see one post voting for Bisu, and the rest are for Ra, but Bisu is winning in the poll?
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