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Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
May 08 2009 05:54 GMT
#21
Voted Reach, since he pushed Protoss to the high macro levels required to best oov, whose contributions to terran basically evolved every sc mu into macro play.

Though to be honest I don't know anything about Garmito.

Wasn't Kingdom one of the first three Protoss Kings? He just played well but didn't revolutionize anything?
I don't really know much about the old protosses =/
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Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
May 08 2009 05:58 GMT
#22
On May 08 2009 14:53 De4ngus wrote:
Lol, this is like one of those map polls with Python in it. Everyone in the thread says "DESTINATION!!" or whatever, and Python still ends up winning somehow. Seriously, I only see one post voting for Bisu, and the rest are for Ra, but Bisu is winning in the poll?


people are secretly in love with bisu, even though rA should really win this poll, and they just don't want to identify themselves
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-08 06:01:49
May 08 2009 05:59 GMT
#23
On May 08 2009 14:53 De4ngus wrote:
Lol, this is like one of those map polls with Python in it. Everyone in the thread says "DESTINATION!!" or whatever, and Python still ends up winning somehow. Seriously, I only see one post voting for Bisu, and the rest are for Ra, but Bisu is winning in the poll?

That could also be because a lot of the people voting for Bisu are doing it because they weren't around the SC scene when rA was dominating so they only know of Bisu's accomplishments, therefore voting for him.

The people voting rA are doing it because they have been around for both eras, so they can post detailed reasons as to why they voted rA. Basically there are more newcomers to the SC scene than veterans on this site.

I know what you mean above the map voting though. It's somewhat similar. A lot of people who are just starting low-money play mostly of Python, so they vote for it because they are familiar with it. Other people(mostly veterans), who like to develop their skills, familiarity with the game, and current trends want to see more action on the newer maps for those reasons. This also relates to there being more newcomers than veterans.

EDIT: Plexa's post mainly backs up what I am getting at here. Personally I think I am inbetween a veteran and newcomer TBH. I didn't know the exact accomplishments of rA like Plexa said, but I know he was also a protoss revolutionizer so that's why I put him as my 2nd choice.
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kasumimi
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Greece460 Posts
May 08 2009 06:06 GMT
#24
Bisu is more popular "these day" that's why he is winning the poll =/

nal_ra should win though, too bad he retired so early.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51446 Posts
May 08 2009 06:07 GMT
#25
Bisu, and a to a smaller extent Jangbi, turned Protoss into a powerful harassment-style race.
Stork and Pusan popularized the use of Arbiters.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
May 08 2009 06:10 GMT
#26
Ok, while I was reading the question..I skipped the "on the Protoss" part so I was like "OK WHERE IS BOXER?" ~_~

Anyway, voted nal_rA, because it took a long time for Bisu to actually get the top PvZ ELO. He also immortalized himself with the tricks he did.
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OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-08 06:23:09
May 08 2009 06:17 GMT
#27
close call between nal_ra and bisu for me. voted bisu though. he changed the way protoss was played with his shuttle play in all matchups. as well as many other things. i feel like the word "influential" could be interpreted in various ways but in my book bisu has been the most influential.
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
May 08 2009 06:27 GMT
#28
rA rA shish boom bA
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
May 08 2009 06:34 GMT
#29
The lack of Reach votes makes me a sad puppy. I was under the impression that he was integral to forging PvT as we know it.
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boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
May 08 2009 06:39 GMT
#30
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JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
May 08 2009 06:48 GMT
#31
On May 08 2009 14:00 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
(P)Stork revolutionized the way Protoss react to Terrans who get their tank sniped after a fast CC.

For that he gets my vote

just a question, what response is that (im guessing reaver?)
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ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-08 07:00:25
May 08 2009 06:59 GMT
#32
<3 Bisu but Nal_ra wins easy
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ssj114
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Afghanistan461 Posts
May 08 2009 07:03 GMT
#33
Nal_ra. People are voting Bisu because more people have observed his play than the greatest protoss player of all time (Nal_ra).
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
May 08 2009 07:06 GMT
#34
Bisu only really changed PvZ

Ra... did so much more.
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
May 08 2009 07:11 GMT
#35
Nal_ra for sure but too many newbs here dont recognize. Bisu will win the poll.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
May 08 2009 07:24 GMT
#36
Voted Ra of course. Anyone old enough to remember Ra's games in his prime could only vote for Ra.

I can see the arguements for Bisu , but Ra did the same thing at a much earlier time. I mean, watch some of his game on Neo Legacy of Char. Mass sair/reaver D web for the win, you cant get any cooler than that. Hell it isnt even POSSIBLE to pull that off anymore. Double Hallcinated arb recalls? Sick. Hell, Arb use in general! Proxy gateway/cannons? Who do you think invented that shit? Cannon rushing? FAST FUCKING NEXUS VS Z? SOUND FRAMILIAR? That was all Ra. He was doing it YEARS before bisu was even on the scene.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
May 08 2009 07:24 GMT
#37
To everyone who voted Bisu...Daezang did the Bisu build before Bisu did.
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riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-08 07:36:41
May 08 2009 07:33 GMT
#38
It's Nal_rA hands down. This is the game Plexa mentioned (Nal_rA vs Goodfriend) -



Watch that and then try and convince yourself that Bisu has done more. Bisu, no doubt, is a great player, but he neither made PvZ winnable, as someone put it, or has done anything even as remotely creative as Kang Min. Sorry Bisu fans (and I'm a SKT T1 fan through and through, so I'm included in that group), but no dice.
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omG.[RaYnE]
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines100 Posts
May 08 2009 07:40 GMT
#39
On May 08 2009 15:27 mikeymoo wrote:
rA rA shish boom bA

omG.[RaYnE] ---> rayne_ph :D
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
May 08 2009 07:44 GMT
#40
Looks like a refresher course on the history of Protoss is due.
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