US Politics Feedback Thread - Page 81

On September 19 2017 11:25 zlefin wrote:
as usual, much of the threads comes from trolling/factually false nonsense; and from people trying to counter that nonsense, with danglars at the center of an awful lot of it.

here's this little gem:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/383301-us-politics-mega-thread?page=8769#175363
talk about an unjustified comparison! and he's doubling down on it in the thread. boooo!
will danglars ever get actioned as he deserves? he's been dragging the thread down for a long while now. half the thread knows he argues in bad faith constantly, yet the mods refuse to take action against someone that is known to argue in bad faith constantly.

On September 19 2017 12:15 LegalLord wrote:
Why don't you just report his post and call it a day?

On September 19 2017 12:14 Nevuk wrote:
I don't really see the problem. It's a poor analogy but it wasn't like Danglars entire premise was "Ben Shapiro is the same as the Little Rock 9", it wasn't a large part of the post. At best it was "there are similarities to their situations". I think it's a poor analogy because restricted free speech doesn't come anywhere close to segregation on the scale of things, but it's not really worth debating.

On September 19 2017 11:31 Danglars wrote:

Mob justice and evict the thread conservatives!

Yes I know their skin color and ideology was wrong, but I don't think anyone, young or old, black or white, should feel threatened coming to a school. If you think civil rights should be protected by police action based on the color of your skin, this was a sad day.

On September 19 2017 11:25 zlefin wrote:
as usual, much of the threads comes from trolling/factually false nonsense; and from people trying to counter that nonsense, with danglars at the center of an awful lot of it.

here's this little gem:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/383301-us-politics-mega-thread?page=8769#175363
talk about an unjustified comparison! and he's doubling down on it in the thread. boooo!
will danglars ever get actioned as he deserves? he's been dragging the thread down for a long while now. half the thread knows he argues in bad faith constantly, yet the mods refuse to take action against someone that is known to argue in bad faith constantly.

On September 19 2017 12:29 GreenHorizons wrote:


Personally I don't want you evicted, I just want people to know the pattern of white supremacy they see in many of your and/or xDaunt's posts isn't coincidence, it's there and consistent. Once you recognize it, it becomes a lot easier to see it before it gets as overt as a dozen pages defending Nazi's right to advocate for genocide (with police protecting them on the tax dollars dime without any concern about the cost) and another dozen on the very dangerous slippery slope of shrouding statues in an effort to draw attention to the fact that they have been deified without consideration for the despicable things they did/advocated.

a clear thread of white supremacy running through the arguments of Danglars

On September 19 2017 13:02 Danglars wrote:

The pattern isn't coincidence. It's that defending the rights of BLM is smiled upon, and defending the rights of neonazis makes you a white supremacist. And because this left-leaning forum spends a lot of time making whites out to be the "other," it turns out that normally tame posts turn into Defcon 5 for thread leftists. And more time gets devoted to them because everybody's collective panties are up in a bunch that anyone would defend marching rights and gun rights and first amendment rights of white people that aren't gay, transgender, or journalists. I can't pick what you're all furious about. I will defend my argument if I think yours is faulty ... and I'll do it over several pages if you really want to be that repetitive and plentiful in partisan assertions (historically true).

But if it makes you sleep better at night assuming if you can spot

Then have at it. I'm not going to try and get you banned or anything. Your participation is one of the longer ones and I have a fair idea of your political thought.

EDIT: I should say your perspective is of course disgusting, but it's fairly popular among a sector of the left that sees racists/neonazis/white supremacists in any group of whites.

That's why I asked you if you had ever done/said anything you think was racist or tinted with white supremacy.

On September 19 2017 13:16 Danglars wrote:
I'd rather have your type confront me on race. It's great for the thread AND website feedback!

Now tell me, are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist party? That's about the level of inquisition that I characterize your sentence


I'm getting off thread topic so I'll leave it there. You're delusional if you want to keep prosecuting this Danglars=White Supremacy thread.

On September 19 2017 13:25 GreenHorizons wrote:


I was barely a member of the Democratic party (mostly a technical thing about being a delegate), so no I haven't.

Comparing asking you if you've ever done something racist to the red scare is interesting, but wholly ridiculous (If for no other reason than I've admitted to the thing I'm asking if you've ever done).

But you see how when you ask me these questions I just answer them and then you huff off instead of returning the answer (this is at least the third time in probably a week)? It's because my question isn't the problem, it's your inability to answer. That's one major reason why the conversations regurgitate frequently and spin for pages.

On September 19 2017 13:11 GreenHorizons wrote:
I asked you if you had ever done/said anything you think was racist or tinted with white supremacy.

On September 19 2017 14:07 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
I'll admit that some of my posts may not be as eloquently stated as others who post, but I stand by what I post. And I stand by calling a dumb post a dumb post. If people in the US Poli thread argue in bad faith consistently, troll other posters for amusement, or derail threads because they can't get their lies/half truths correct, then perhaps we should shutter it for a bit.

I'll shitpost in that thread to a shitty comment made by danglars or xD or P6 if the need arises and I'll take my warnings and bans without complaint. But to have two of the more vocal contributors in that thread given a free pass because they are a minority voice in that thread, that's unfair. If anyone continues to use circuitous comments, purposefully belittles/entices/obstruct a meaningful discussion, then I believe a warning should be handed down.

Too many times we try to get direct answers from each other and there are a few who can't manage the courage to answer them. Then we get 15 pages of trying to drag a coherent response out of them while they play dodge ball/hot potato with the question. Danglars especially continues to argue in bad faith and sees nothing wrong with his style of posting. xDaunt gives it to you straight even if he wants to just argue for the sake of it for a bit. P6, KwarK and GH are also guilty of this as well.

tl;dr clamp down on the quality of posts/discussions. These debates aren't getting anywhere because too many people deflect or evade the hot button topic we are currently discussing because it would shine a bad light on them. And yes, I'm crying a fucking river.

On August 18 2017 22:08 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:

THEY ARE FUCKING NAZIS DANGLARS. Are you serious? You're advocating for the well-being and protection of fucking nazis to assemble.

On September 19 2017 13:48 Danglars wrote:

I'll indulge you a little more. I make the comparison because the Communist party was the bugaboo like racist/WS is now. The current morphological form is racist thoughts.

Are you now or have you ever harbored racist thoughts about your fellow man? This presents as both subliminal/unconscious and overt. Back then, it was Communist party membership. McCarthy tried to demonize the men and women before him. The same applies today.

The new sin for the new time. Are you guilty of wrongthink? But I'm not drilling down deep enough. The religion of the time asks us to confess our white supremacy and racism as a step to moral enlightenment. The real question is if you've admitted to original sin (white privilege) and gone to church to make a public confession. People before McCarthy also refused to answer. They were cited for contempt of Congress. I'm privileged to have the racial zealots before me now just as they had anti-Communist zealots before them then. Just as before, refusal to play the part said you were a Communist propagandist or worse. Now, you're some white supremacist.

I'm honored that you vary your accusations but continue the thread. I hope to explain to my children and grandchildren what it was like in times of high racist invective in public discourse in the 2000s and 2010s. My more memorable exchanges have been with friends and acquaintances, but you're a useful standin with text exchanges. I rather wear it as a badge of honor, you see.