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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
May 08 2019 12:54 GMT
#4561
I think you need to chill out brian.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9616 Posts
May 08 2019 12:56 GMT
#4562
only for god’s sake.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
May 08 2019 14:14 GMT
#4563
Oh, chill out for god's sake brian.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-09 21:15:49
May 09 2019 21:01 GMT
#4564
Planxis got a 2 day ban for joking about shooting conservatives. He should had learnt from the best and threaten to not shoot them instead as a perfectly calm person.

Edit: wait nvm.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
May 09 2019 22:27 GMT
#4565
I can feel myself getting pretty heated over this. I'm glad the P6 ban got reconsidered. Because since it happened the thread has been mostly arguing over whether it's okay to joke about shooting immigrants, and I thought it was mostly clear that P6 was being sarcastic. If you're going to action him in earnest, you should also be actioning folks who think what happened at Trump's latest rally was defensible. That comes very close, for me, to being like "well actually Hitler had some good ideas". The discussion is playing with fire, and something we just simply should not be tolerating.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
May 09 2019 22:31 GMT
#4566
wow what an insane handling of bans.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 09 2019 22:56 GMT
#4567
The last 2 day temp an became a two hour. Maybe a week ban is about half a day.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 10 2019 00:14 GMT
#4568
You see, I did this cool thing where I explained the context of my post to seeker, but also said I understood he decided on the ban because I was not overwhelming clear with my sarcasm. The rest took care of itself, likely to the disappointment of the person who reported me.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
May 10 2019 00:47 GMT
#4569
neither you nor xdaunt should have been banned
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
May 10 2019 00:55 GMT
#4570
What I like most about the politics thread is how often you guys secretly report each other and then get outraged when somebody actually gets banned.
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-10 00:59:30
May 10 2019 00:57 GMT
#4571
I don’t have much of an opinion on Xdaunts ban. But his passive aggressive swipes at people was bound to get him in trouble at some point. I’m not really convinced this was the moment, however.

I got banned because Seeker could only see my post and not the context surrounded it. I was unbanned once I explained it.

On May 10 2019 09:55 KadaverBB wrote:
What I like most about the politics thread is how often you guys secretly report each other and then get outraged when somebody actually gets banned.


We are all a bunch of messy, drama thirsty bitches. Some of us are just more honest with ourselves about it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4682 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-10 01:12:07
May 10 2019 01:11 GMT
#4572
So wait, did someone report that xDaunt post? Guess that would not be surprising, I have a hard time imagining any mod would read that on their own and think it ban-worthy, espeically if they were reading the thread already and saw what came before.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13816 Posts
May 10 2019 01:15 GMT
#4573
I don't really see the reason to continue posting in the thread if the same shit keeps happening. You can be honest and just say you don't want some people posting in the thread anymore.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-10 01:23:57
May 10 2019 01:23 GMT
#4574
On May 10 2019 09:57 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2019 09:55 KadaverBB wrote:
What I like most about the politics thread is how often you guys secretly report each other and then get outraged when somebody actually gets banned.


We are all a bunch of messy, drama thirsty bitches. Some of us are just more honest with ourselves about it.


Actually I have one report in 10 years, and that was for a martyr's post many years ago to get me a 100% ban report rate.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-10 01:26:46
May 10 2019 01:24 GMT
#4575
On May 10 2019 10:15 Sermokala wrote:
I don't really see the reason to continue posting in the thread if the same shit keeps happening. You can be honest and just say you don't want some people posting in the thread anymore.

Assholes? Because that is the main reason people get banned. Being an asshole.

Are you saying you want to be one with the asshole demographic in the thread, because I've never counted you among them.

On May 10 2019 10:23 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2019 09:57 Plansix wrote:
On May 10 2019 09:55 KadaverBB wrote:
What I like most about the politics thread is how often you guys secretly report each other and then get outraged when somebody actually gets banned.


We are all a bunch of messy, drama thirsty bitches. Some of us are just more honest with ourselves about it.


Actually I have one report in 10 years, and that was for a martyr's post many years ago to get me a 100% ban report rate.

You should keep that report rate pure and let the rest of us messy bitches handle the reporting.

Edit: I also don't report people that much. Only when its really bad or a clear bot.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-10 05:15:22
May 10 2019 05:11 GMT
#4576
The correct term of art here is Schrodinger's Asshole. Interchangeable with Schrodinger's Douchebag. Because rather than acknowledge the creep of fascism, or even discuss the like, he resorted to mental gymnastics and ultimately a refusal to engage honestly, all while being an unremitting prick. But yes, "the same shit" done happened again.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8000 Posts
May 10 2019 07:37 GMT
#4577
I'm surprised xDaunts ban was sitewide btw. Weren't the politics thread suppose to have its own ban list, or did that not work out?
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
May 10 2019 11:25 GMT
#4578
This was the post that was chosen for xdaunt's ban.

On May 10 2019 07:11 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2019 06:48 NewSunshine wrote:
On May 10 2019 05:49 xDaunt wrote:
On May 10 2019 05:43 NewSunshine wrote:
I mean, I'm honestly curious. How would Danglars and xDaunt feel if Obama went to a rally, filled with people who clearly support him, and someone joked about shooting Christians, and his response was to mildly joke about what that person said? Would you honestly feel he went far enough to ridicule the idea? You would want someone in such a clear position of authority to send a clear message that he wouldn't tolerate such heinous ideas, would you not?

I'm serious here. Take a minute and do some reflection. Within minutes you'd have people all over the internet saying that's unacceptable. You guys know that. But do you care?

See, I find this to be a particularly stupid and insulting question. It should be obvious from my posting history that I don't bother bitching about trivial shit like this. It's generally beneath me. And believe me, there is no shortage of stupid jokes and other public faux pas that democrats have made that I could bring up around here. Long story short, don't project your love affair of the trivial upon others, and especially not me.

I asked because I was curious how you saw the issue. You've made that abundantly clear.

What the people at the rally said wasn't funny to me. What Trump said wasn't funny to me. That doesn't register as a joke to me. You can spin it however you like. The immigrants they threaten to shoot wouldn't find that funny. You have Trump supporters collecting thousands of guns, waiting for the chance to use them. They hear Trump and his supporters say these things at a rally, and they listen in earnest. This is not a joke to them. It's a White Supremacist rallying cry, by a bunch of White Supremacists. So I'm really happy for you that, in your privilege, you can sit there in all your smugness and say that the power Trump has is beneath you. But this is not funny to me, it's goddamn terrifying. It should be the same for you.

I've laid my cards out, now that you've pressed me. You've made it clear just how funny you think this whole issue is. But I can guarantee you that the thousands of people that listen and cheer for Trump, and bring up the idea of shooting immigrants in a very public venue, they don't think it's funny. They think it's serious. So really, I don't care how funny you think it is. Good for you that you can be so detached about it.


Pretty much nothing that you have written here is accurate about what I have said, so apparently nothing that I have said is "abundantly clear" to you. Your post is a giant straw man. So, no I'm not interested in your cards. You can play with yourself.

User was temp banned for this post.


Looking at the quote train, there really isn't any excuse for xdaunt's response. Can you imagine a US Pol thread where we all respond to each other like xdaunt?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17918 Posts
May 10 2019 11:36 GMT
#4579
On May 10 2019 20:25 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
This was the post that was chosen for xdaunt's ban.

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2019 07:11 xDaunt wrote:
On May 10 2019 06:48 NewSunshine wrote:
On May 10 2019 05:49 xDaunt wrote:
On May 10 2019 05:43 NewSunshine wrote:
I mean, I'm honestly curious. How would Danglars and xDaunt feel if Obama went to a rally, filled with people who clearly support him, and someone joked about shooting Christians, and his response was to mildly joke about what that person said? Would you honestly feel he went far enough to ridicule the idea? You would want someone in such a clear position of authority to send a clear message that he wouldn't tolerate such heinous ideas, would you not?

I'm serious here. Take a minute and do some reflection. Within minutes you'd have people all over the internet saying that's unacceptable. You guys know that. But do you care?

See, I find this to be a particularly stupid and insulting question. It should be obvious from my posting history that I don't bother bitching about trivial shit like this. It's generally beneath me. And believe me, there is no shortage of stupid jokes and other public faux pas that democrats have made that I could bring up around here. Long story short, don't project your love affair of the trivial upon others, and especially not me.

I asked because I was curious how you saw the issue. You've made that abundantly clear.

What the people at the rally said wasn't funny to me. What Trump said wasn't funny to me. That doesn't register as a joke to me. You can spin it however you like. The immigrants they threaten to shoot wouldn't find that funny. You have Trump supporters collecting thousands of guns, waiting for the chance to use them. They hear Trump and his supporters say these things at a rally, and they listen in earnest. This is not a joke to them. It's a White Supremacist rallying cry, by a bunch of White Supremacists. So I'm really happy for you that, in your privilege, you can sit there in all your smugness and say that the power Trump has is beneath you. But this is not funny to me, it's goddamn terrifying. It should be the same for you.

I've laid my cards out, now that you've pressed me. You've made it clear just how funny you think this whole issue is. But I can guarantee you that the thousands of people that listen and cheer for Trump, and bring up the idea of shooting immigrants in a very public venue, they don't think it's funny. They think it's serious. So really, I don't care how funny you think it is. Good for you that you can be so detached about it.


Pretty much nothing that you have written here is accurate about what I have said, so apparently nothing that I have said is "abundantly clear" to you. Your post is a giant straw man. So, no I'm not interested in your cards. You can play with yourself.

User was temp banned for this post.


Looking at the quote train, there really isn't any excuse for xdaunt's response. Can you imagine a US Pol thread where we all respond to each other like xdaunt?

I don't see the problem. I read the quote train, it was getting heated. xDaunt felt he was being misrepresented and said that, in a direct, yet fairly polite manner. I mean, it would have been better if he had just stopped responding in a totally pointless argument, but then again, that's on both sides for going at it.

If any action, they should just both be warned for having a heated argument in the thread instead of PM.

And just for the record: I agree pretty much entirely with NewSunshine on this entire thing.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13816 Posts
May 10 2019 11:45 GMT
#4580
On May 10 2019 20:36 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2019 20:25 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
This was the post that was chosen for xdaunt's ban.

On May 10 2019 07:11 xDaunt wrote:
On May 10 2019 06:48 NewSunshine wrote:
On May 10 2019 05:49 xDaunt wrote:
On May 10 2019 05:43 NewSunshine wrote:
I mean, I'm honestly curious. How would Danglars and xDaunt feel if Obama went to a rally, filled with people who clearly support him, and someone joked about shooting Christians, and his response was to mildly joke about what that person said? Would you honestly feel he went far enough to ridicule the idea? You would want someone in such a clear position of authority to send a clear message that he wouldn't tolerate such heinous ideas, would you not?

I'm serious here. Take a minute and do some reflection. Within minutes you'd have people all over the internet saying that's unacceptable. You guys know that. But do you care?

See, I find this to be a particularly stupid and insulting question. It should be obvious from my posting history that I don't bother bitching about trivial shit like this. It's generally beneath me. And believe me, there is no shortage of stupid jokes and other public faux pas that democrats have made that I could bring up around here. Long story short, don't project your love affair of the trivial upon others, and especially not me.

I asked because I was curious how you saw the issue. You've made that abundantly clear.

What the people at the rally said wasn't funny to me. What Trump said wasn't funny to me. That doesn't register as a joke to me. You can spin it however you like. The immigrants they threaten to shoot wouldn't find that funny. You have Trump supporters collecting thousands of guns, waiting for the chance to use them. They hear Trump and his supporters say these things at a rally, and they listen in earnest. This is not a joke to them. It's a White Supremacist rallying cry, by a bunch of White Supremacists. So I'm really happy for you that, in your privilege, you can sit there in all your smugness and say that the power Trump has is beneath you. But this is not funny to me, it's goddamn terrifying. It should be the same for you.

I've laid my cards out, now that you've pressed me. You've made it clear just how funny you think this whole issue is. But I can guarantee you that the thousands of people that listen and cheer for Trump, and bring up the idea of shooting immigrants in a very public venue, they don't think it's funny. They think it's serious. So really, I don't care how funny you think it is. Good for you that you can be so detached about it.


Pretty much nothing that you have written here is accurate about what I have said, so apparently nothing that I have said is "abundantly clear" to you. Your post is a giant straw man. So, no I'm not interested in your cards. You can play with yourself.

User was temp banned for this post.


Looking at the quote train, there really isn't any excuse for xdaunt's response. Can you imagine a US Pol thread where we all respond to each other like xdaunt?

I don't see the problem. I read the quote train, it was getting heated. xDaunt felt he was being misrepresented and said that, in a direct, yet fairly polite manner. I mean, it would have been better if he had just stopped responding in a totally pointless argument, but then again, that's on both sides for going at it.

If any action, they should just both be warned for having a heated argument in the thread instead of PM.

And just for the record: I agree pretty much entirely with NewSunshine on this entire thing.

But daunt is the one that gets actioned because "hes the problem" and "if you just remove him everything gets better".
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
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