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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-15 18:25:22
February 15 2019 18:21 GMT
#4281
Pol thread should be open to all, open to low post counts. PBU's are just a cost I am willing to endure for the sake of equality of opportunity. Political freedom is sacrosanct. Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
February 15 2019 18:27 GMT
#4282
On February 16 2019 03:21 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Pol thread should be open to all. PBU's are just a cost I am willing to endure for the sake of equality of opportunity. Political freedom is sacrosanct. Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.


Shrug. The internet is not a place of freedom and never has been. It's a selection of houses owned by people that they allow us to visit. We're permitted to voice our opinions in the US Pol thread, but if the noise annoys the owners they can shut it - and overly noisy participants - out of the house at their whim.

My point being the internet has never been a particularly good place for ideals of freedom to be voiced, entirely because every single website is just a benevolent tyranny.

Zuckerburg and Facebook could block every single user tomorrow if they felt like it, for the reason: We felt like it.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-15 19:15:10
February 15 2019 19:04 GMT
#4283
The post wasn't meant to be taken seriously. It is a joke.
I am parodying the propensity for political grandstanding.

It wasn't even particularly subtle.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8250 Posts
February 15 2019 19:28 GMT
#4284
On February 16 2019 04:04 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
The post wasn't meant to be taken seriously. It is a joke.
I am parodying the propensity for political grandstanding.

It wasn't even particularly subtle.


Fooled me. Poe's law in effect
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-15 20:49:32
February 15 2019 20:40 GMT
#4285
I honestly thought I was being obvious with "PBU's are just a cost I am willing to endure for the sake of equality of opportunity."

By using one of the most influential political thought for something so frivolous.



"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" was just the icing on the cake, taking the piss out of those who thinks random quotes is a logical argument in itself.



I do think that limiting the pol thread to those of a certain post count is unnecessary, but the real message I was trying to impart is the humour.

By the way this post is genuinely in good faith.
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
February 15 2019 23:41 GMT
#4286
In retrospect, well played sir. But I've seen too many posters write that sort of thing seriously around these parts to just assume it's sarcasm anymore :D
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
February 16 2019 00:45 GMT
#4287
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27081885
I didn't provide Seeker the link in my last post, so here it is.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
February 16 2019 00:50 GMT
#4288
On February 16 2019 09:45 Danglars wrote:
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27081885
I didn't provide Seeker the link in my last post, so here it is.

Done.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28785 Posts
February 16 2019 01:29 GMT
#4289
On February 16 2019 03:21 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Pol thread should be open to all, open to low post counts. PBU's are just a cost I am willing to endure for the sake of equality of opportunity. Political freedom is sacrosanct. Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.


perhaps a joke to you but I agree entirely! Even if 95% of low post count posters are PBU's, I'd hate to have a lurker go 'oh, THIS I have to chime in on' for then to realize 'damn, guess I should have anticipated that and made an account a month ago' if that stifled his ability to participate.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43907 Posts
February 16 2019 01:42 GMT
#4290
In my first post in the topic at the time Testie accused me of being an alt of someone else.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 16 2019 02:35 GMT
#4291
There is something very meta about that.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
February 16 2019 09:13 GMT
#4292
On February 16 2019 10:42 KwarK wrote:
In my first post in the topic at the time Testie accused me of being an alt of someone else.


*rips off Kwark's mask* KICKBOXER???? IT WAS YOU ALL ALONG?
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-20 01:32:54
February 20 2019 01:30 GMT
#4293
This is ridiculous I got shadow banned for suporting Trump. My posts have 10% of the vitriol that "regulars" use on the thread against the president.

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=1133#22647

Both made on that page. I am arguing with people on the other fence which is prohibited now it seems.

Just read the kind of source less inflamatory posts about the president on this page, with 0 warnings issued:

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=1127

I guess "poor posting history" and "thread rules" (selectively applied) were use by the mods.

At the very least, there should be a mod note on my post that got banned and why instead of shadow banning me.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-20 01:42:50
February 20 2019 01:42 GMT
#4294
There is like whole thread about it. Just like the ban list.

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/535284-us-politics-mega-thread-ban-list#16

I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14105 Posts
February 20 2019 01:47 GMT
#4295
This isn't reddit so you didn't get shadow banned, we all can see and easily find out that your ban is temporary. Two you did you did a bad in your code so your post doesn't make sense. Three people can bash the president as much as they can bash sanders, these are public politicians that effect our daily lives.

You don't post good.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
February 20 2019 07:19 GMT
#4296
On February 20 2019 10:30 GoTuNk! wrote:
This is ridiculous I got shadow banned for suporting Trump. My posts have 10% of the vitriol that "regulars" use on the thread against the president.

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=1133#22647

Both made on that page. I am arguing with people on the other fence which is prohibited now it seems.

Just read the kind of source less inflamatory posts about the president on this page, with 0 warnings issued:

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=1127

I guess "poor posting history" and "thread rules" (selectively applied) were use by the mods.

At the very least, there should be a mod note on my post that got banned and why instead of shadow banning me.

It's a thread tempban instead of a shadowban. They can last upwards of four months, though. I had no problem reading your posts.

The closest I could find lately is this one by Wulfey. It's literally just a slap at perceived racial subtexts (not working class, but "white working class, right?") with a link. It might get warned later, who knows. If he did two more of low brow jabs he might also get a thread tempban.

Since the temp ban reason was just quoting the last one, I'll refrain from further comment.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-20 23:09:48
February 20 2019 23:08 GMT
#4297
On February 20 2019 10:30 GoTuNk! wrote:
This is ridiculous I got shadow banned for suporting Trump. My posts have 10% of the vitriol that "regulars" use on the thread against the president.

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=1133#22647

Both made on that page. I am arguing with people on the other fence which is prohibited now it seems.

Just read the kind of source less inflamatory posts about the president on this page, with 0 warnings issued:

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=1127

I guess "poor posting history" and "thread rules" (selectively applied) were use by the mods.

At the very least, there should be a mod note on my post that got banned and why instead of shadow banning me.

Resorting to childish invective is "10% of the vitriol" of everyone posting in the thread? I don't even know what you're referring to in the links, everything looked fine to me. Sounds like you just have problems when people disagree with you.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
February 20 2019 23:56 GMT
#4298
I can only presume that gotunk would prefer to be site wide banned instead. I too think that's the best option in this case.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 22 2019 23:55 GMT
#4299
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24768 Posts
February 23 2019 00:23 GMT
#4300
To be clear, the "summary" should introduce the article in a way that actually summarizes what the article is about so that you don't have to read the article to figure out what it is or why it's being posted. Including an out-of-context reaction to the article at the front of the post doesn't accomplish this. It's probably fine to put the reaction in addition to a legitimate summary introducing the article. Also, due to prior history, the trigger is a little lighter here.

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=1142#22822
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