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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-06 16:45:16
August 06 2018 15:14 GMT
#3501
The first link talks about "self-proclaimed globalists and nationalists" and "so-called globalists" and " "“globalists” and “nationalists” " . It basically doesn't trust the meaning of the two words, but then uses it in the manner of the current trump administration, that is to say, to make the words devoid of their original meaning. The journalism in that article is actually quite poor.

The second link only uses the word "globalist" as quoted by white house officials.

The third link only used "globalist" in the title.

The fourth link only uses "globalist" in the title.

The fifth link only used "globalist" in the title.

Based on your links, globalist as a word exists when used solely by white house officials or as clickbait titles after a reputable journalist wrote the article

None of them are from the pre Trump era.


Globalism as a word as set meanings, which are used, but generally speaking there are better words. Nationalism and nationalist have set meanings, but those aren't how the trump administration uses it.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42970 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-06 15:38:09
August 06 2018 15:23 GMT
#3502
On August 06 2018 23:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
Maybe we can say that all this is the price the far right pays for having nazis adopt their terminology to avoid looking like nazis. Like I said before, there's no difference between the way xD posts on here and the way nazis talk when they are trying to sound less nazi. It doesn't make xD a nazi, but you can see the similarity in language.

You have it reversed. The Nazis haven’t adopted the language of the right, the right have taken the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, changed the word Jew for Globalist, and called it a political philosophy.

Globalists, as described by the alt-right, are a group of international bankers, media tycoons, and industrialists who secretly control everything and want to destroy Aryan white European culture.

xDaunt will happily describe who the globalists are for you, explain their means and methods, explain how they’re linked to socialism, feminism, racial activism, and of course all the big international organizations like the World Bank. And he’ll explain how a reactionary white identity politics group is needed to retake control of society and push back against the globalists. But the moment you point out that he’s talking about Nazism he gets really upset.
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
August 06 2018 15:37 GMT
#3503
I guess you can't be opposed to totally free trade or you are a Nazi. Or the World Bank. Or socialism.

That's one way to be political. "You're either with me or you're a Nazi"
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42970 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-06 15:40:01
August 06 2018 15:39 GMT
#3504
On August 07 2018 00:37 IgnE wrote:
I guess you can't be opposed to totally free trade or you are a Nazi. Or the World Bank. Or socialism.

That's one way to be political. "You're either with me or you're a Nazi"

You can oppose free trade without thinking that the Elders of Zion are behind it and that the white race must rise up to fight them. My issue with xDaunt is that he can’t.
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
August 06 2018 15:45 GMT
#3505
And you know this because that's what he said somewhere?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19086 Posts
August 06 2018 15:45 GMT
#3506
This is feedback, not the "is xDaunt nazi thread". Knock it off.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-06 16:00:30
August 06 2018 15:48 GMT
#3507
In UK, the brexiteers are against free trade, but no one says they are nazis (except as for the EDF or other white supremacist groups, but lets ignore them ). The difference is that the majority of brexiteers hasn't adopted the language of white supremacists.

You got it the wrong way round anyways. You are either with me or you are not a nationalist. Why are you not a nationalist? Don't you love America?

If you don't say you are a nationalist, then you don't love America. You are the enemy. You are a globalist.

That was basically the jist of xdaunt argument, to conflate patriotism with nationalism, and enemy with globalist, which didn't make sense anyways, which is fair enough, but then he went ... Edit: tofucake posted when I was typing the rest of this.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-06 15:51:46
August 06 2018 15:48 GMT
#3508
People have opposed free trade, socialism and the world bank without being called Nazis for decades. It is possible. The truth is out there for those who seek it.

Seriously, we should be able to talk about dog whistle xenophobic langauge. I’m not saying calling people Nazis is productive, but I strongly dislike being called stupid for recognizing dog whistle xenophobia.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
August 06 2018 15:50 GMT
#3509
On August 07 2018 00:45 tofucake wrote:
This is feedback, not the "is xDaunt nazi thread". Knock it off.


What is this supposed to mean? Someone asked a question about ad hominems and a few people here have responded with, "Well it's true. He's a nazi …"
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 06 2018 15:53 GMT
#3510
On August 07 2018 00:39 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2018 00:37 IgnE wrote:
I guess you can't be opposed to totally free trade or you are a Nazi. Or the World Bank. Or socialism.

That's one way to be political. "You're either with me or you're a Nazi"

You can oppose free trade without thinking that the Elders of Zion are behind it and that the white race must rise up to fight them. My issue with xDaunt is that he can’t.

Honest question for TL: y’all realize that Kwark is defaming me and creating liability for you, right? I don’t have any intention coming after TL, but it is important that you understand just how far off the reservation Kwark is while flying under TL’s banner.

User was temp banned for this post.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-06 15:55:29
August 06 2018 15:55 GMT
#3511
Did you just threaten to sue TL? As an online anonymous avatar? lol
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42970 Posts
August 06 2018 15:55 GMT
#3512
Lol
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42970 Posts
August 06 2018 15:59 GMT
#3513
On August 07 2018 00:55 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Did you just threaten to sue TL? As an online anonymous avatar? lol

He’d have fun trying to show how he was damaged by someone calling xDaunt a Nazi.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
August 06 2018 16:01 GMT
#3514
Oh lord, what is happening in here lol
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-06 16:06:44
August 06 2018 16:05 GMT
#3515
On August 07 2018 00:53 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2018 00:39 KwarK wrote:
On August 07 2018 00:37 IgnE wrote:
I guess you can't be opposed to totally free trade or you are a Nazi. Or the World Bank. Or socialism.

That's one way to be political. "You're either with me or you're a Nazi"

You can oppose free trade without thinking that the Elders of Zion are behind it and that the white race must rise up to fight them. My issue with xDaunt is that he can’t.

Honest question for TL: y’all realize that Kwark is defaming me and creating liability for you, right? I don’t have any intention coming after TL, but it is important that you understand just how far off the reservation Kwark is while flying under TL’s banner.

This is some low grade tactics right here, and complete bullshit. Not only do you have no intentions of filing a claim, but know it would be frivolous. Defamation require Kwark know he is lying and doing so to inflict provable harm. You are dumb enough to think this is a valid claim, you just think folks on TL might believe you.

I don’t agree with calling you a Nazi, but you give as good as you get. The instant you are told something you don’t like you degrade people. Some of us were aware of these alt right clowns almost 5 years ago and tried to warn you they were real peices of work when you started bringing them up. All you have done is ignore, deny and insult since then. This is from Vox day to Milo. You just don’t want to hear it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12262 Posts
August 06 2018 16:19 GMT
#3516
On August 07 2018 00:37 IgnE wrote:
I guess you can't be opposed to totally free trade or you are a Nazi. Or the World Bank. Or socialism.

That's one way to be political. "You're either with me or you're a Nazi"


It's weird to see you refuse to engage with what is being said like this.
No will to live, no wish to die
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 06 2018 16:21 GMT
#3517
On August 07 2018 01:05 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2018 00:53 xDaunt wrote:
On August 07 2018 00:39 KwarK wrote:
On August 07 2018 00:37 IgnE wrote:
I guess you can't be opposed to totally free trade or you are a Nazi. Or the World Bank. Or socialism.

That's one way to be political. "You're either with me or you're a Nazi"

You can oppose free trade without thinking that the Elders of Zion are behind it and that the white race must rise up to fight them. My issue with xDaunt is that he can’t.

Honest question for TL: y’all realize that Kwark is defaming me and creating liability for you, right? I don’t have any intention coming after TL, but it is important that you understand just how far off the reservation Kwark is while flying under TL’s banner.

This is some low grade tactics right here, and complete bullshit. Not only do you have no intentions of filing a claim, but know it would be frivolous. Defamation require Kwark know he is lying and doing so to inflict provable harm. You are dumb enough to think this is a valid claim, you just think folks on TL might believe you.

I don’t agree with calling you a Nazi, but you give as good as you get. The instant you are told something you don’t like you degrade people. Some of us were aware of these alt right clowns almost 5 years ago and tried to warn you they were real peices of work when you started bringing them up. All you have done is ignore, deny and insult since then. This is from Vox day to Milo. You just don’t want to hear it.

There's no tactic to this at all. And no, I'm not threatening TL. I made that explicitly clear in my post. I'm pointing out -- and correctly -- that Kwark is creating liabilities for TL. And yes, what Kwark is doing does amount to defamation. It's not just calling me a Nazi, it's falsely stating that I adhere to all sorts of beliefs to which I do not and have said that I do not. And in particular, it's the repeated false statements in light of my denials that demonstrates maliciousness under the law.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 06 2018 16:23 GMT
#3518
I can’t tell if this is just a tactic because most folks don’t know how law works or you are just a really bad attorney.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42970 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-06 16:30:06
August 06 2018 16:29 GMT
#3519
Saying you could sue, but you won’t, but you could though, if something you want doesn’t happen, but you’re not going to, but you could, is a threat to sue. If you don’t want to make a threat you don’t say anything about suing.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
August 06 2018 16:30 GMT
#3520
Ugh, how embarassing
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
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