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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14047 Posts
March 25 2018 23:54 GMT
#2121
On March 26 2018 03:46 Doodsmack wrote:
How about a rule where articles do not need to be accompanied by commentary, but no tweets can be posted and instead you have to quote the underlying article. The tweets are usually just an easier way of posting an article.

Twitter posts are fine with enough context. If the context is inherent such as a trump post or a well known politician its fine. The issue is when you have a ben sharpiro level or a congressmen from san deigo making a tweet the context isn't as inherent and would need introduction just like an article.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Mercy13
Profile Joined January 2011
United States718 Posts
March 26 2018 13:25 GMT
#2122
Why was this post not actioned?

On March 25 2018 21:26 Excludos wrote:
Again guys, I must reiterate. Danglar is always going to be Danglar. The best ways to deal with his views is to not engage with them. If you find it ridiculous, then stop entertaining them. This thread is consistently derailed by one person and everyone who answers him.


I tried to report it but I got to it too late.

I'm on board with tightening the posting standards, but it seems like substance-less personal attacks like this are more noxious to discussion than posting articles without comment.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 26 2018 13:27 GMT
#2123
On March 26 2018 22:25 Mercy13 wrote:
Why was this post not actioned?

Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 21:26 Excludos wrote:
Again guys, I must reiterate. Danglar is always going to be Danglar. The best ways to deal with his views is to not engage with them. If you find it ridiculous, then stop entertaining them. This thread is consistently derailed by one person and everyone who answers him.


I tried to report it but I got to it too late.

I'm on board with tightening the posting standards, but it seems like substance-less personal attacks like this are more noxious to discussion than posting articles without comment.

I was wondering the same thing. Some mod clearly messed that one up.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
March 26 2018 13:37 GMT
#2124
The baker thing has been going on for like 20 pages or something. Kind of gets old because they're repeating things to each other.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
March 26 2018 15:00 GMT
#2125
Don’t worry, I got temp banned from the thread for responding to all comers. Too many people reported me.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 26 2018 15:00 GMT
#2126
I agree with that assessment. That discussion was mostly the same talking points being rehashed over and over for 20 pages by one poster. The post in question wasn’t an attack. Just reminding posters that they were spending a lot of effort on someone who has no intention of changing his mind.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
March 26 2018 15:21 GMT
#2127
To be fair to Danglars I'm not sure many people were adequately responding to his distinction between artistic expression and merely baking a cake. It matters for whether a balance can be struck between gay rights and religious freedom. Even if you would still come out on the side of gay rights, you need to understand and address the distinction.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 26 2018 15:29 GMT
#2128
Jesus Christ. Are you mods high? You banned Danglars of all people?
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
March 26 2018 15:57 GMT
#2129
On March 27 2018 00:29 xDaunt wrote:
Jesus Christ. Are you mods high? You banned Danglars of all people?

where did the ban notice for that appear? I didn't see anything.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9244 Posts
March 26 2018 16:04 GMT
#2130
He's banned from the thread only
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 26 2018 16:12 GMT
#2131
And it’s a temp ban. Which will now be debated in the court of public opinion with almost no facts or context apparently.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-26 17:41:02
March 26 2018 17:40 GMT
#2132
without seeing the ban notification and the stated reason for it, it's harder to assess the merits of it.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 26 2018 18:51 GMT
#2133
Danglars showed me what Seeker sent him. No real reason is given. I'll let him post it here if he wants to, but my interpretation of the reason for the ban is "We, the mods, are tired of being spammed with reports regarding Danglars' posting, so rather than do the right thing and take away the reporting privileges of the imbeciles who keep reporting Danglars, we're just going to ban Danglars and see what happens."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
March 26 2018 18:57 GMT
#2134
That’s a classic Seeker move. I’m not the least bit surprised.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 26 2018 19:01 GMT
#2135
It’s weird because that isn’t an issue for other conservative voters on that subject. My take is that it is a result of how Danglars discusses things in the thread, rather than his political views.

I’m sure the mods will respond at some point.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
March 26 2018 19:07 GMT
#2136
Take it to website feedback. This was my decision btw, not Seekers. He just went ahead and sent the PM eventhough I should have done it, I just suck at time management.
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
March 26 2018 19:10 GMT
#2137
On March 27 2018 04:07 KadaverBB wrote:
Take it to website feedback. This was my decision btw, not Seekers. He just went ahead and sent the PM eventhough I should have done it, I just suck at time management.

this IS in the website feedback section.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
March 26 2018 19:12 GMT
#2138
I appreciate that there's a new system and the mods are figuring it out as they go but to me it just seemed like danglars was repeatedly asked to explain the same point to an increasingly angry crowd and he handled it fairly well.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
March 26 2018 19:17 GMT
#2139
On March 27 2018 03:51 xDaunt wrote:
Danglars showed me what Seeker sent him. No real reason is given. I'll let him post it here if he wants to, but my interpretation of the reason for the ban is "We, the mods, are tired of being spammed with reports regarding Danglars' posting, so rather than do the right thing and take away the reporting privileges of the imbeciles who keep reporting Danglars, we're just going to ban Danglars and see what happens."

are you sure it didn't have anything to do with the nauseating self righteousness, condescending tone, and never ever being wrong about anything?
I carve marble busts of assassinated world leaders - PM for a quote
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 26 2018 19:17 GMT
#2140
On March 27 2018 04:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
I appreciate that there's a new system and the mods are figuring it out as they go but to me it just seemed like danglars was repeatedly asked to explain the same point to an increasingly angry crowd and he handled it fairly well.

Exactly. This just boggles the mind. TL literally just banned the last regular staunch, American conservative poster in that thread (Sermokala is more moderate, and I don't consider myself a regular poster anymore).
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