[D] Statue of Robocop in Detroit - Page 6
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
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Helios.Star
United States548 Posts
Joe Louis' fist Spirit of Detroit A lot of us dont need, or want, a goddamn Robocop statue. All it would do is ruin the architecture. | ||
Enyalus
United States135 Posts
Then again, we have statues of General Custer, too. :\ Philadelphia has the statue of Rocky, and he's fictional. They also have important historical statuary. I guess it all depends on your tastes. I'd be all for it. It'd be cool and would probably raise morale. We kind of need it after seeing videos of our city council operate. | ||
Parnage
United States7414 Posts
It's 50,000k raised by private means(ie no tax money) to build a statue in a city on presumably private property and all it takes is a city saying "oh okay sure". Sense when was it okay to tell people what they can and can not do with money they make? It's not the cities money to spend nor is it anyone elses but those who donated for this purpose willingly. No case can be made for misspent taxpayers dollars nor can you tell people what to do with the money they make. The only reason it's being taken in any manner but "oh neat" is because Detroit can't do it themselves due to misuse of budget, corruption, and rising criminal rates. Not to mention the city is outright de-urbanizing. I used to live in Michigan. Detroit won't be doomed or saved by a statue but it's nice to see some people care enough to actually try and spruce up the place. | ||
PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On February 24 2011 07:19 Helios.Star wrote: Guys, its NEVER going to happen. In Detroit we have a big ass statue of Joe Louis fist, another statue of Joe Louis himself (though not outdoors) and another called the "Spirit of the Detroit" that would make a Robocop statue look just like it is, a joke. Joe Louis' fist Spirit of Detroit A lot of us dont need, or want, a goddamn Robocop statue. All it would do is ruin the architecture. I Love Joe Louis' fist, every time I go down Jefferson I stare at it. | ||
sib-pelle
Sweden162 Posts
Just my 2 cents! | ||
arterian
Canada1157 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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Not_A_Notion
Ireland441 Posts
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vrok
Sweden2541 Posts
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
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Helios.Star
United States548 Posts
On February 24 2011 07:48 Parnage wrote: So how could anyone complain about this? It's 50,000k raised by private means(ie no tax money) to build a statue in a city on presumably private property and all it takes is a city saying "oh okay sure". Sense when was it okay to tell people what they can and can not do with money they make? It's not the cities money to spend nor is it anyone elses but those who donated for this purpose willingly. No case can be made for misspent taxpayers dollars nor can you tell people what to do with the money they make. The only reason it's being taken in any manner but "oh neat" is because Detroit can't do it themselves due to misuse of budget, corruption, and rising criminal rates. Not to mention the city is outright de-urbanizing. I used to live in Michigan. Detroit won't be doomed or saved by a statue but it's nice to see some people care enough to actually try and spruce up the place. Im going to raise $100,000 to buy property and get a 30 ft rainbow colored statue of a violently vomiting toddler giving everybody the finger built right across the street from where you live. Its my money, so you cant tell me I get to do with it. When you build something that affects other people then those in charge do get to say how you spend your money. And I would hardly call a statue of Robocop sprucing up the city. | ||
zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On February 24 2011 08:41 Helios.Star wrote: Im going to raise $100,000 to buy property and get a 30 ft rainbow colored statue of a violently vomiting toddler giving everybody the finger built right across the street from where you live. Its my money, so you cant tell me I get to do with it. When you build something that affects other people then those in charge do get to say how you spend your money. And I would hardly call a statue of Robocop sprucing up the city. ya man, robocop and vomiting toddler giving everyone the finger, good comparison. | ||
1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
The detroit budget for 2009 was $3.7 billion. $ 2.9 billion in 2010. What the hell can you do with $50,000 to improve on anything? It's a very very small amount of money. The money was raised for the sole purpose of building Robocop stuatue which otherwise wouldn't have raised. Who defines 'better' use? Can you collect money from the customer in Newsagency trying to buy gossip magazine and give the customer newspaper instead and say 'your money could be used for better purchase?' | ||
jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
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Helios.Star
United States548 Posts
On February 24 2011 08:48 zev318 wrote: damn this would make me wanna go visit detroit ya man, robocop and vomiting toddler giving everyone the finger, good comparison. A big statue of robocop is exactly like a big middle finger to the city in the eyes of some people if you really think about how the movies portray Detroit, and considering the classic architecture/statues we already have. You know what I used was an extreme example to prove my point, could you really not see that or did you just have to respond to my post? | ||
Space Invader
Australia291 Posts
wtf this is hilarious robocop of all things... | ||
1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
On February 24 2011 09:56 Helios.Star wrote: A big statue of robocop is exactly like a big middle finger to the city in the eyes of some people if you really think about how the movies portray Detroit, and considering the classic architecture/statues we already have. You know what I used was an extreme example to prove my point, could you really not see that or did you just have to respond to my post? I fail to see the relevance as well. Robocop is a historic icon from the world-wide hit movie who served and protected the citizens of Detroit and eliminated the rampant crime in the city streets. Sure the movie may have over-exaggerated about the city crime scene, but all hollywood movies are like that for dramatic effect. Who's gullible enough to believe everything they see on the movies? Robocop is cool if nothing else. Who's more aknowledged better world-wide than Robocop from Detroit? Tim Allen? How is it exactly a big middle finger to the city? It's not like it's going to be displayed with the classic architecture/statues side to side. Should the city only have classic or artistic statues? What you're saying is like saying if the city has concert hall dedicated to classic music, you cannot have hiphop club somewhere? What has vomiting toddler have to do with anything? Is she/he acknowledged world-wide for his/her heroic actions? | ||
Helios.Star
United States548 Posts
On February 24 2011 13:58 1tym wrote: I fail to see the relevance as well. Robocop is a historic icon from the world-wide hit movie who served and protected the citizens of Detroit and eliminated the rampant crime in the city streets. Sure the movie may have over-exaggerated about the city crime scene, but all hollywood movies are like that for dramatic effect. Who's gullible enough to believe everything they see on the movies? Robocop is cool if nothing else. Who's more aknowledged better world-wide than Robocop from Detroit? Tim Allen? How is it exactly a big middle finger to the city? It's not like it's going to be displayed with the classic architecture/statues side to side. Should the city only have classic or artistic statues? What you're saying is like saying if the city has concert hall dedicated to classic music, you cannot have hiphop club somewhere? What has vomiting toddler have to do with anything? Is she/he acknowledged world-wide for his/her heroic actions? You obviously failed to see the point I was trying to make also, which is that it isnt true that people can do whatever they want with their money, like everybody is saying. How about if i put up a statue of a vomiting Steve-O from jackass? Or a statue of one of the members of their cast performing the "poo volcano". Theyre all famous, so its ok right? Are you from Detroit? Michigan? Have you ever been here? The movies make the city look like an absolute crime ridden shithole, and building a statue dedicated to the main character of a movie like that doesn't do the it any favors. The citizens of the city, or the state even, didn't vote for a Robocop statue, and it seems like it was done more as a joke than anything else. Robocop is NOT a historic icon for the city of Detroit, I really don't know where you get that from. Someone like Joe Louis is, which is why we have two statues of him here. Ernie Harwell is, which is why we have a statue of him going into Comerica Park. You say people aren't gullible enough to believe what they say in movies, but all Ive seen about Detroit on these boards are comments about how crappy of a city it is, or how crime ridden it is, or how there are only "shootings and burned out buildings" (a quote taken directly from a GSL cast), and I guarantee less than 5% of those people have even stepped foot in the city let alone lived here for almost 27 years like myself, and people like you end up believing Robocop represents Detroit. Nobody wants to put up statues of Motown singers around the city but when people hear Robocop they jump on it. Its shameful. | ||
Svetz
Australia311 Posts
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