! [G] Walling - Page 8
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NeVeR
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arb
Noobville17915 Posts
Top Bottom Both are zealot and fagling proof | ||
xmShake
United States1100 Posts
On January 21 2009 12:48 NeVeR wrote: I disagree that walls are more useful in TvT than they are in TvZ. They are the least useful in TvT, and I would actually argue that they are MOST useful nowadays in TvZ, since mech has become quite popular and a lot of maps allow for ling-tight wall-ins at the natural, allowing you to take your expo without having to build more than one marine and not having to worry about any early ling cheesiness. They can of course be useful in TvP, but you sometimes have to be careful when you wall. If they proxy a gateway near your base, you have to worry about blocking their probe from building a pylon in your wall. If they manage to do so, it becomes much harder to defend than if you had just sim citied near your command. Dealing with probe harass is also a lot easier and affords you more mining time if you don't wall. You have to realize that I wrote this about 6 months ago with minimal editing afterwards to the actual text involved, (I intend to update eventually once I start playing more). Anyway, most useful or not, walls have their benefits in all match ups. Even with a perfect wall you are not invulnerable to ling cheese. Update : Added Medusa and alternate Destination walls. (Keep them coming!) | ||
Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On January 21 2009 11:33 Equinox_kr wrote: God I swear 1 o clock was the most frustrating thing ever. Must've destroyed a hundred Depots figuring out what the wall was. Much love to Sea[shield] for finally showing it to me in a VOD on TLPD :O Look at Tau Cross Took me some time finding those walls, so weird placement | ||
Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
It's so weird. Also If you put an assimilator on the very left edge of the map a zergling can run between the edge and the assim but once you kill it he cant fit anymore. See my 2nd post on page 4 to see what I mean. | ||
niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
Can be also found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=64938 Learn how to fish, don't come here for fish, kk? | ||
HeaDStrong
Scotland785 Posts
i played around with it and the area around the ramps on the high ground is unbuildable and the enterance to the expansion is quite wide. I only managed to figure out a wall-in for the 1 o'clock position, because you can use the minerals there to help you wall in. And for battle royale you could just destroy the assimilators to create a wall in? I just dont trust my micro and I feel more comfortable if the protoss scum is outside my base. | ||
theobsessed1
United States576 Posts
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On April 23 2009 03:30 theobsessed1 wrote: How do you wall on God's Garden? I could only do it using 3 supplies and 1 rax... Yea, the map is unwallable probably to stop terran from like double FE builds or some cheap shit. Someone should post the 3 depot walls though (kinda helpful for team games). | ||
HeaDStrong
Scotland785 Posts
Btw how do you test it? you start with protoss and mindcontrol enemy scv or smth? can anyone confirm this wall? + Show Spoiler + | ||
randombum
United States2378 Posts
And for the other 3 bases I don't think its possible to get zealot proof walls with 3buildings. although if you are willing to add your factory ( Or third supply I suppose, but third supply comes later than factory) there too you can use the 4 buildings to get a zealot proof wall and have tanks spawn in your base, but that seems silly since you get a free base behind anyways. But I don't see any situation where exposing your factory like that for a walled in nat will be worth it. | ||
uglymoose89
United States671 Posts
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arb
Noobville17915 Posts
Top : only zealot proof Bottom : Only zealot proof Left Base : zealot/fagling proof. | ||
PH
United States6173 Posts
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Reason
United Kingdom2770 Posts
If the barracks is below or to the left of the depot that is a block.(not sure about lings but definitely zeals + probe) | ||
Ry-Masta-T
United States478 Posts
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xmShake
United States1100 Posts
However, within the next week ill salvage whats still here, fill in the missing pieces and reupload everything to a new imagehost. If I'm up to it I'll include some new maps as well. Can anyone suggest a good long term imagehost? I was thinking about just uploading to tinypic but I haven't used it for long term image hosting before. | ||
Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
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