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kulik-
Czech Republic305 Posts
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jacen
Austria3644 Posts
On April 06 2009 07:18 s.a.y wrote: eswc > wcg anytime. more professional, more coverage, more everything. 100% agreed. i'd take eswc over wcg ANY time of the day | ||
Kong John
Denmark1020 Posts
On April 06 2009 10:31 Ingenol wrote: The problem is outside of Korea eSports are not yet sports: they do not sell tickets/merchandise/fill studios/etc.. The games themselves do, but not "eSports," so to speak. For years I would go to tournaments like the CPL and wondering why companies were sinking so much money into them to reach such a relatively small audience, and in a fashion where even those they did reach were not even the ideal consumer (someone who will buy the latest games/hardware frequently) but the e-atheletes themselves, who tended to focus on one game and really probably spend less on hardware and gaming titles than most. It seems it has taken a dire economy, however, for sponsor companies to realize that at this point in time what we call foreigner eSports is simply not the best place to spend an ever shrinking advertising budget. I'm sad to see ESWC go, though. It was a very well-run event that generated a lot of insane matches, particularly in CS 1.6. I really dont agree here, sponsors do get alot of new customers from sponsoring esports. I mean look at Razer, i bet alot of people have bought a mouse, mousepad and a keyboard due to them sponsoring alot of esports events. I think Razer is one of the most known hardware companies in esports. Also the hardcore gamer group is defenatly the most likely to by a good gaming mouse or a high quality mousepad since they need it the most to perform. The hardcore gamers are defenatly the group of gamers that spend the most money on games (i bet most of the TL'ers have atleast ten games at home even though we mostly play BW). | ||
IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On April 06 2009 06:50 Dknight wrote: What the? If anything ESWC was considered to be one of the best events and the looked forward to event of the year. Great organization, great production, etc. You can't be serious. What other events are there? All thats left now is WCG and Kode5. well in principle it is good that 'lesser' events are dying off, the problem is they arent dying off by the right critera. wcg is just sticking around cuz its the biggest and most established and so can weather the economic problems, instead of having the lowest quality events eliminated. and if it gets to the point where wcg really is the only thing left there will be no pressure on them to improve cuz the gaming community would have to cling to them no matter how bad they are. shitty. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On April 06 2009 14:56 IdrA wrote: wasnt korea just pulling out of a recession as sc1 hit? Yeah, I realized that which was why I added the second part. At first I wasn't thinking so much about the current overall economic situation, but rather that so many teams/events have shut down lately.. Which of course is connected | ||
Atlan
Taiwan36 Posts
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luiohh
Bangladesh78 Posts
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StarKiller
France51 Posts
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
The problem is sponsor companies are a lot tighter on cash + expectations of international growth in competitive e-gaming were never quite met. I think part of the reason is that competiton with other sorts of entertainment (such as sports, movies, concerts, etc.) is a lot more acute in other parts of the world. I would love to see SC tournaments on TV in the US or Europe, but I just don't see it happening aytime soon. | ||
Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On April 06 2009 19:43 IdrA wrote: well in principle it is good that 'lesser' events are dying off, the problem is they arent dying off by the right critera. wcg is just sticking around cuz its the biggest and most established and so can weather the economic problems, instead of having the lowest quality events eliminated. and if it gets to the point where wcg really is the only thing left there will be no pressure on them to improve cuz the gaming community would have to cling to them no matter how bad they are. shitty. Darwin | ||
kulik-
Czech Republic305 Posts
yeah and its sad that US goverment and many other ignore this | ||
Beside_kr
Canada902 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
the whole point of my post was that thats not whats happening because quality hasnt been the determining factor in who fails. | ||
Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
because of this the community can only support so many things... others must die out | ||
RaiZ
2813 Posts
(You had to do lans in order to gets points to qualify in the finals, first french eswc finals then world finals). Sadly there won't be any trackmania world final anymore (french qualification is still open though). | ||
Athena PMS
United States44 Posts
And let's not even discuss that if more leagues start failing, how no competition ends up being a monopoly and what that would mean... >< | ||
Manbear
Canada306 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On April 07 2009 10:39 IdrA wrote: the whole point of my post was that thats not whats happening because quality hasnt been the determining factor in who fails. I know that. I wrote "Darwin" because I meant that that is how it should be! | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
Offers to buy the ESWC brand are on their way. | ||
MutaDoom
Canada1163 Posts
On April 06 2009 10:32 p4NDemik wrote: Wasn't the argument for why BW succeeded in Korea that it was released right in the middle of an economic downturn, and it was cheap entertainment for people without jobs, with lots of free time? If you go by this line of thinking then SC2 couldn't be arriving at a better time, assuming the economy doesn't do a dramatic 180 in the next six months. Which it won't, either way. | ||
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