And I'm pretty sure that Hume never denied the utility of science, he only had issues with its claims to 'intrinsic' truth.
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Wonders
Australia753 Posts
And I'm pretty sure that Hume never denied the utility of science, he only had issues with its claims to 'intrinsic' truth. | ||
Maenander
Germany4919 Posts
It would most likely just sink to the core of the earth and do nothing, in the unlikely case it wouldn´t be fast enough to escape earth. If such things were the stable, accreting and easily produced monsters you dream of at night, I think we would have noticed! If one thinks of the cosmic rays (having much higher energy than anything that could ever be produced in CERN) flying around our neighbourhood for billions of years (especially when the first stars formed and the universe was much denser), those mini black holes should be around and devastate everything we see. We do see nothing though. | ||
STiKxSx96
United States13 Posts
but the theory behind this is insane.. | ||
TehKris
Norway322 Posts
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Railz
United States1449 Posts
On July 02 2008 07:46 TehKris wrote: There is 0% chance that a black hole will be made in that. This. Black Holes aren't created with an insane amount of colliding force, nor will they ever be. You might get an explosive chain reaction, but not a black hole. Either way, the earth is fine. Micro black holes aren't even that rare of an event. | ||
joewest
United States167 Posts
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GeneralZap
United States172 Posts
In other words, the Big Bang is impossible, because it requires too much gravity and would form a black hole. | ||
Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On June 24 2008 18:10 Cascade wrote: Bumping this thread since Michelangelo Mangano, one of the big guys at CERN, published a paper on this with Giddings, dismissing risks using the white dwarf/neutron star argument above. http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0806/0806.3381v1.pdf It's 97 pages, but just reading the abstract is enough, and should be understandable to most. Let me also emphasis that these are not some random PhDs publishing, but well renowned guys. Bumping again since a guy I dont know (R. Plaga) just (10:th of august) submitted a paper claiming to have found a hole in Manganos argunents. http://arxiv.org/abs/0808.1415 The discussion continues... And guys, please: if you dont work in this field, you will not understand the details of this problem. I promise. I am a PhD in particle physics myself, and I still dont understand the details of this. I think the discussion here is great and it warms my heart to see this topic, but I sometimes wish that the 95% of you that are not proffesional particle physiscists would realise that you wont find a single great solution that solves it all.... Be humble guys, there are incredibly knowledgable persons (like Mangano, not me...) working on this. that said: OMG, were all gonna die!!! :o + Show Spoiler + | ||
Kaptein[konijn]
Netherlands110 Posts
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
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SlickR12345
Macedonia408 Posts
Though I'm not sure if this is some competition thing and they are trying to stop these scientist from maybe coming up with new knowledge or if it has any merit. In either way this should be reviewed by European health and environmental commissions and other high governing bodies and not some court in Hawaii. | ||
BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
Really, this is a joke. | ||
UmmTheHobo
United States650 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
WELL THEY STARTED it will be end of humanity as we know it either with a) awesome new energy source b) ... or we're all doomed Anyways back to topic, their first test ( the whole project is spinning protons rapidly around... like speed of light crazy; then colliding them to create energy ) Well the first test, the protons actually spun around at tested speeds, SUCCESS... now for part 2, ultimately the part everyones scared about It's really amazing engineering, the infrastructure they used to create this project | ||
betaben
681 Posts
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/09/19/scilhc419.xml this is typical of particle physicists - there is no room for mistakes in their project managements. Overconfidence in the LHC is why there are still many physicists working in FNAL. Still, two more months to live. | ||
Fontong
United States6454 Posts
I mean really here's a few choices for your death: A: Get hit by a car B: Die of old age C: Get cancer and die D: Get swallowed by a black hole Dunno, choice D sounds pretty good to me. | ||
Chewits
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/09/19/scilhc319.xml "..He uses the following idea to put the punch packed by the machine into context: a spark from a sparkler can be hotter than the sun, but a bath of boiling water is much more dangerous. "The protons are the sparks, the whole beam is the bath." | ||
Spenguin
Australia3316 Posts
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alpskomleko
Slovenia950 Posts
I think you mean cold fusion. | ||
DwmC_Foefen
Belgium2186 Posts
I could be wrong :p | ||
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