On June 09 2008 00:15 Myxomatosis wrote:
just don't kill us all plz
just don't kill us all plz
Or wait until after BWWI.
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edahl
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On June 09 2008 00:15 Myxomatosis wrote: just don't kill us all plz Or wait until after BWWI. | ||
clazziquai
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PLEASE! | ||
Wonders
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And cosmic rays with much higher energies than what goes on inside accelerators have been hitting the earth since forever. | ||
Catyoul
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Catyoul
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KaasZerg
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I don't know if miniscule black holes are unstable due to Hawkins radiation. | ||
iNcontroL
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Kroc.
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trickser
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Jyvblamo
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8882
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On June 09 2008 00:22 Servolisk wrote: Show nested quote + On June 08 2008 23:58 Klive5ive wrote: Yeah this is a guy with a doctorate in law and a writer trying to argue against over 500 over the best Physics professors in the world. Basically. Yeah, the guys who get the funding are supposed to asses their own work and if they say that it's dangerous they will get laid off. Do you seriously trust them? Also, there are many black holes in the universe. Perhaps most civilizations end up being sucked up into them. If the chance is minimal, actually any there should be a "NO GO". Actually this is the thing that should be banned, bombared by Dubya and then by Osama, because this can bring harm to all of us. | ||
Kroc.
Peru95 Posts
On June 09 2008 02:06 8882 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 09 2008 00:22 Servolisk wrote: On June 08 2008 23:58 Klive5ive wrote: Yeah this is a guy with a doctorate in law and a writer trying to argue against over 500 over the best Physics professors in the world. Basically. Yeah, the guys who get the funding are supposed to asses their own work and if they say that it's dangerous they will get laid off. Do you seriously trust them? Also, there are many black holes in the universe. Perhaps most civilizations end up being sucked up into them. If the chance is minimal, actually any there should be a "NO GO". Actually this is the thing that should be banned, bombared by Dubya and then by Osama, because this can bring harm to all of us. Hahahaha, good one | ||
Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On June 09 2008 02:06 8882 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 09 2008 00:22 Servolisk wrote: On June 08 2008 23:58 Klive5ive wrote: Yeah this is a guy with a doctorate in law and a writer trying to argue against over 500 over the best Physics professors in the world. Basically. Yeah, the guys who get the funding are supposed to asses their own work and if they say that it's dangerous they will get laid off. Do you seriously trust them? Also, there are many black holes in the universe. Perhaps most civilizations end up being sucked up into them. If the chance is minimal, actually any there should be a "NO GO". Actually this is the thing that should be banned, bombared by Dubya and then by Osama, because this can bring harm to all of us. The problem with that is many physicists not connected with CERN also say that there is nothing to be worried about. If anything, gamma ray bursts or super-novae are more of a concern than blackholes being formed by the LHC. Edit: I may be being Romanian here, but I can't tell if you're sarcastic or not. | ||
MasterOfChaos
Germany2896 Posts
On June 09 2008 02:05 trickser wrote: I just dont get it? How the hell are black holes supposed to be created by that, could someone explain the scientific background on this? I mean black holes are made through a critical mass of matter which together has so much gravity that it just keeps sucking everything in, or not? The critical mass only applies to stars. Black holes are created when the size of some object is smaller than a certain radius which depends on its mass. So even small objects can become black holes, if they are small/dense enough. So the absolute mass is still very small, but they are very dense. Their gravity-field is not stronger that that of any other object of the same mass, but if you come too close you cannot escape according to general relativity. Except GR offers no way for a once created Black hole to disapear again. But QM is believed to cause them to evaporate. Small black holes are believed to be evaporating through some quantummecanical behavior such as hawking-radiation. The problem is, that we have no reliable theory describing both general relativity and quantum-mechanics at the same time. This means we cannot describe the behavior of such a small black hole reliably. So there is much information we can gain from observing small heavy objects, but on the other hand this introduces doubts, because we do not know enough about it to be certain they are harmless. I'm very sure nothing will happen, but the problem is that the worst case scenario is really bad, when compared to the informational gain we can expect. There are several reasons why you cannot contain a black hole in a container. Electically charged black holes become neutral quite fast by succing in matter with the opposite charge. So basically the only force which interacts with a BH is gravity. So if it does not evaporate and has no momentum it falls down into the core earth, where it might grow exponetially over the years,and finally "eat" the whole earth. The moon etc should be left untouched. But all of this is wild speculation, and I don't think they are a real danger. Especially compared to crazy politicians with a nuclear arsenal like Bush, Putin, etc. | ||
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Guss
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On June 09 2008 02:05 trickser wrote: I just dont get it? How the hell are black holes supposed to be created by that, could someone explain the scientific background on this? I mean black holes are made through a critical mass of matter which together has so much gravity that it just keeps sucking everything in, or not? isnt that exactly what happends when u shoot that many protons towards 1 spot? they melt together to create a superheavy mass? | ||
EAGER-beaver
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Kroc.
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On June 09 2008 02:41 EAGER-beaver wrote: All this speculation over black holes is really kooky. As the article and many people have already pointed out, the earth gets bombarded with cosmic radiation millions of times more powerful then the latest cern particle accelerator can provide. Ultimately I think this accelerator is just another huge money sink. Solar arrays that attempt to collect information about comsic rays (at a fraction of a cost) could provide answers that would push theoretical physics much further then cern could ever hope to, but only the Japanese are trying this direction. Any source to back up your argument about solar arrays? | ||
thoraxe
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Guss
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On June 09 2008 02:56 thoraxe wrote: I've always wanted to die from a black hole or a Death Star ray. id wanna be lightsabered by darth vader | ||
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