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On September 19 2014 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 11:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 19 2014 11:11 GlowingBear wrote:On September 19 2014 11:06 justanothertownie wrote:On September 19 2014 10:57 GlowingBear wrote:On September 19 2014 10:53 justanothertownie wrote:On September 19 2014 10:52 Holyflare wrote: He was forced to take the claim back because he got called out about rayn agreeing with koshi that the pgo should claim. Exactly. So what? I also believe he is scum for that, but I want the conclusion on why's that particular a mafia move and not town move. This sentence. Sense it does not make. Sorry, language problems. Let me rephrase it. I think geript is scum for claiming PGO and unclaiming. But I want the scum motivation behind it. Just saying "he is scum for doing that" is bad. I want to hear "he is scum for doing that because as scum he can get away from this, force a push on this", etc. I want to know what is the scum motivation behind the unclaim. Well, the motivation for the unclaim is surviving. As either alignment. The mafia motivation for the claim itself is that a counterclaim was very unlikely at that point and nobody would check/track/lynch a claimed PGO. I see no town motivation for it. Ok. Now tell me: why did he unclaim when he could've kept the claim and convince us he was actually PGO? This was explained a million times by now dude. Because rayn agreed with Koshi that PGO should claim and rayn DIDN'T claim. We would have lynched geript 100 % if he kept the claim.
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On September 19 2014 11:16 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 11:07 GlowingBear wrote: So you're basically saying your reads is based on how people pushed you.
1) tell me what do you think of palmar 2) what are the possible scenarios you've come to, regarding geript? Correct, I thought I would make use of my unfortunate d1 situation in a way that might profit me. I had read the push on me before at the start of the day and figured I would let it run and possibly fish out some scum. 1) I don't know what the fuck he's playing. I think his kind of play might be the same for town as for scum. He felt incredibly scummy for me d1 (though I only skimmed d1, and it will most likely stay that way due to time constraints), and multiple people felt the same way. However, I felt like it might just be something he does to set up easy scum games for when he rolls scum. I.e. he will do it regardless of alignment. So I don't know about Palmar right now, I want him to be more proactive so I can align him with others and hopefully have an easier time reading him. 2) geript is either emotional town or scum. I don't like emotional town because they're rather unpredictable to me, and quite frankly, they're annoying to cooperate with. Besides his garbage vote on me, I don't have anything strong on him at the moment. If I had two bullets I would shoot both BC and geript. Since we have one lynch I would prefer it to go on BC right now.
Do you believe geript and palmar could be from the same alignment?
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The town motivation is to get killed but he stopped that by unclaiming. This also wasn't his intention because his stated reason was "to get the pgo to claim". Which is actually very shit now that we kind of know mafia likely has a roleblocker (i think you can rb pgo? It says it resolves after rb's). A medic wouldn't be able to save the pgo and the pgo could get killed.
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On September 19 2014 11:16 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 11:07 GlowingBear wrote: So you're basically saying your reads is based on how people pushed you.
1) tell me what do you think of palmar 2) what are the possible scenarios you've come to, regarding geript? Correct, I thought I would make use of my unfortunate d1 situation in a way that might profit me. I had read the push on me before at the start of the day and figured I would let it run and possibly fish out some scum. 1) I don't know what the fuck he's playing. I think his kind of play might be the same for town as for scum. He felt incredibly scummy for me d1 (though I only skimmed d1, and it will most likely stay that way due to time constraints), and multiple people felt the same way. However, I felt like it might just be something he does to set up easy scum games for when he rolls scum. I.e. he will do it regardless of alignment. So I don't know about Palmar right now, I want him to be more proactive so I can align him with others and hopefully have an easier time reading him. 2) geript is either emotional town or scum. I don't like emotional town because they're rather unpredictable to me, and quite frankly, they're annoying to cooperate with. Besides his garbage vote on me, I don't have anything strong on him at the moment. If I had two bullets I would shoot both BC and geript. Since we have one lynch I would prefer it to go on BC right now. I don't like this post. Politician post.
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Hopeless why do you not list geript in your top 3? My conviction in my vote is waning as the only real dirt I have is the claim/unclaim like most people here and it's starting to seem like a weak foundation.
Superbia what makes BC a more scummy person than geript? Your big post paints geript as far more red looking than BC.
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GB you are acting weird I haven't led a read of yours all day and wasn't talking to you with that question but hf to get clarification on stuffs and if you look at my filter I want to lynch geript today
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On September 19 2014 11:17 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:On September 19 2014 11:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 19 2014 11:11 GlowingBear wrote:On September 19 2014 11:06 justanothertownie wrote:On September 19 2014 10:57 GlowingBear wrote:On September 19 2014 10:53 justanothertownie wrote:On September 19 2014 10:52 Holyflare wrote: He was forced to take the claim back because he got called out about rayn agreeing with koshi that the pgo should claim. Exactly. So what? I also believe he is scum for that, but I want the conclusion on why's that particular a mafia move and not town move. This sentence. Sense it does not make. Sorry, language problems. Let me rephrase it. I think geript is scum for claiming PGO and unclaiming. But I want the scum motivation behind it. Just saying "he is scum for doing that" is bad. I want to hear "he is scum for doing that because as scum he can get away from this, force a push on this", etc. I want to know what is the scum motivation behind the unclaim. Well, the motivation for the unclaim is surviving. As either alignment. The mafia motivation for the claim itself is that a counterclaim was very unlikely at that point and nobody would check/track/lynch a claimed PGO. I see no town motivation for it. Ok. Now tell me: why did he unclaim when he could've kept the claim and convince us he was actually PGO? This was explained a million times by now dude. Because rayn agreed with Koshi that PGO should claim and rayn DIDN'T claim. We would have lynched geript 100 % if he kept the claim.
He could easily keep the claim and say that Rayn said that so mafia would visit him at night trying to kill him and die.
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On September 19 2014 11:19 Holyflare wrote: The town motivation is to get killed but he stopped that by unclaiming. This also wasn't his intention because his stated reason was "to get the pgo to claim". Which is actually very shit now that we kind of know mafia likely has a roleblocker (i think you can rb pgo? It says it resolves after rb's). A medic wouldn't be able to save the pgo and the pgo could get killed.
Makes no sense. Scum would not shoot a PGO because they would have to rb AND shoot him.
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On September 19 2014 11:19 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 11:16 Superbia wrote:On September 19 2014 11:07 GlowingBear wrote: So you're basically saying your reads is based on how people pushed you.
1) tell me what do you think of palmar 2) what are the possible scenarios you've come to, regarding geript? Correct, I thought I would make use of my unfortunate d1 situation in a way that might profit me. I had read the push on me before at the start of the day and figured I would let it run and possibly fish out some scum. 1) I don't know what the fuck he's playing. I think his kind of play might be the same for town as for scum. He felt incredibly scummy for me d1 (though I only skimmed d1, and it will most likely stay that way due to time constraints), and multiple people felt the same way. However, I felt like it might just be something he does to set up easy scum games for when he rolls scum. I.e. he will do it regardless of alignment. So I don't know about Palmar right now, I want him to be more proactive so I can align him with others and hopefully have an easier time reading him. 2) geript is either emotional town or scum. I don't like emotional town because they're rather unpredictable to me, and quite frankly, they're annoying to cooperate with. Besides his garbage vote on me, I don't have anything strong on him at the moment. If I had two bullets I would shoot both BC and geript. Since we have one lynch I would prefer it to go on BC right now. Do you believe geript and palmar could be from the same alignment?
Possible. I'm more inclined to think that palmar is aligned with BC.
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On September 19 2014 11:21 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 11:17 justanothertownie wrote:On September 19 2014 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:On September 19 2014 11:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 19 2014 11:11 GlowingBear wrote:On September 19 2014 11:06 justanothertownie wrote:On September 19 2014 10:57 GlowingBear wrote:On September 19 2014 10:53 justanothertownie wrote:On September 19 2014 10:52 Holyflare wrote: He was forced to take the claim back because he got called out about rayn agreeing with koshi that the pgo should claim. Exactly. So what? I also believe he is scum for that, but I want the conclusion on why's that particular a mafia move and not town move. This sentence. Sense it does not make. Sorry, language problems. Let me rephrase it. I think geript is scum for claiming PGO and unclaiming. But I want the scum motivation behind it. Just saying "he is scum for doing that" is bad. I want to hear "he is scum for doing that because as scum he can get away from this, force a push on this", etc. I want to know what is the scum motivation behind the unclaim. Well, the motivation for the unclaim is surviving. As either alignment. The mafia motivation for the claim itself is that a counterclaim was very unlikely at that point and nobody would check/track/lynch a claimed PGO. I see no town motivation for it. Ok. Now tell me: why did he unclaim when he could've kept the claim and convince us he was actually PGO? This was explained a million times by now dude. Because rayn agreed with Koshi that PGO should claim and rayn DIDN'T claim. We would have lynched geript 100 % if he kept the claim. He could easily keep the claim and say that Rayn said that so mafia would visit him at night trying to kill him and die. No, he couldn't. He was instantly getting heat for it and it would have stayed that way.
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On September 19 2014 11:22 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 11:19 Holyflare wrote: The town motivation is to get killed but he stopped that by unclaiming. This also wasn't his intention because his stated reason was "to get the pgo to claim". Which is actually very shit now that we kind of know mafia likely has a roleblocker (i think you can rb pgo? It says it resolves after rb's). A medic wouldn't be able to save the pgo and the pgo could get killed.
Makes no sense. Scum would not shoot a PGO because they would have to rb AND shoot him.
Actually, there's plenty of motivation to rb and shoot a PGO.
Getting rid of confirmed town is an awesome motivation.
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On September 19 2014 11:22 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 11:19 Holyflare wrote: The town motivation is to get killed but he stopped that by unclaiming. This also wasn't his intention because his stated reason was "to get the pgo to claim". Which is actually very shit now that we kind of know mafia likely has a roleblocker (i think you can rb pgo? It says it resolves after rb's). A medic wouldn't be able to save the pgo and the pgo could get killed.
Makes no sense. Scum would not shoot a PGO because they would have to rb AND shoot him. So if he wanted to die he would choose another role to claim.
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On September 19 2014 11:20 Fecalfeast wrote: Hopeless why do you not list geript in your top 3? My conviction in my vote is waning as the only real dirt I have is the claim/unclaim like most people here and it's starting to seem like a weak foundation.
Superbia what makes BC a more scummy person than geript? Your big post paints geript as far more red looking than BC. I have a really hard time with the idea of rayn getting modkilled as scum
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On September 19 2014 11:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 11:22 justanothertownie wrote:On September 19 2014 11:19 Holyflare wrote: The town motivation is to get killed but he stopped that by unclaiming. This also wasn't his intention because his stated reason was "to get the pgo to claim". Which is actually very shit now that we kind of know mafia likely has a roleblocker (i think you can rb pgo? It says it resolves after rb's). A medic wouldn't be able to save the pgo and the pgo could get killed.
Makes no sense. Scum would not shoot a PGO because they would have to rb AND shoot him. Actually, there's plenty of motivation to rb and shoot a PGO. Getting rid of confirmed town is an awesome motivation. Ah, of course. That's why they killed the masons last night. Oh wait...
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On September 19 2014 11:19 Holyflare wrote: The town motivation is to get killed but he stopped that by unclaiming. This also wasn't his intention because his stated reason was "to get the pgo to claim". Which is actually very shit now that we kind of know mafia likely has a roleblocker (i think you can rb pgo? It says it resolves after rb's). A medic wouldn't be able to save the pgo and the pgo could get killed.
I didn't know the bolded. I was pretty certain he is mafia but now I'm completely convinced ##Vote: geript
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On September 19 2014 11:20 Fecalfeast wrote: Hopeless why do you not list geript in your top 3? My conviction in my vote is waning as the only real dirt I have is the claim/unclaim like most people here and it's starting to seem like a weak foundation.
Superbia what makes BC a more scummy person than geript? Your big post paints geript as far more red looking than BC.
BC filter feels like it has no town. geript's filter feels like it might be town. I think geript has a somewhat decent chance of flipping town. Don't feel the same way about BC.
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On September 19 2014 11:22 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 11:19 Holyflare wrote: The town motivation is to get killed but he stopped that by unclaiming. This also wasn't his intention because his stated reason was "to get the pgo to claim". Which is actually very shit now that we kind of know mafia likely has a roleblocker (i think you can rb pgo? It says it resolves after rb's). A medic wouldn't be able to save the pgo and the pgo could get killed.
Makes no sense. Scum would not shoot a PGO because they would have to rb AND shoot him.
Eh yeh i didn't really think that through properly but just knowing who the pgo is is enough of a scum motivation
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Well now you're picking at straws.
The bottom line was that VE was supertown and Koshi is a very dangerous townie to leave alone for large periods of time. Haru hasn't done much and Poofter is MIA.
Who are the better nightkills?
At the end of the day, rbing and shooting a PGO is still a good idea down the line if that slot isn't already under suspicion.
And I'm not even sure why I'm having this argument because I'm not particularly in tune with what's going on right now.
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On September 19 2014 11:25 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 11:19 Holyflare wrote: The town motivation is to get killed but he stopped that by unclaiming. This also wasn't his intention because his stated reason was "to get the pgo to claim". Which is actually very shit now that we kind of know mafia likely has a roleblocker (i think you can rb pgo? It says it resolves after rb's). A medic wouldn't be able to save the pgo and the pgo could get killed.
I didn't know the bolded. I was pretty certain he is mafia but now I'm completely convinced ##Vote: geript The bolded is the exact reason why HF should be read as mafia. He's literally just twisting what I said and putting it in the most favorable light for him. But hey, go ahead and lynch me.
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