On August 16 2014 19:08 L1ghtning wrote: He was busy paying off multiple humongous divorce settlements. This is why he was loaded with movie projects lately, and this is most likely the main cause of his downward spiral. It's about time that you do something about those divorce lawyers, and the laws that support them. But noone wants to talk about this, because it's not politically correct.
You don't need to speak for the man. If he'd wanted to attribute his suicide to something, use it to draw attention to an issue or state a reason he had ample opportunity to do so. Failing that all you're doing is taking some cause that you care about and trying to hitch it to this tragedy. It's opportunistic and tasteless.
Bullshit. Everybody is blaming something. And do you really think that he (if his spirit lives on) would be unhappy if his death could lead to more reasonable divorce laws? Not really. It's very clear that he had financial issues, noone can dispute that. And it's also very clear that he was extremely unhappy with his divorce settlements. I can't see how pointing this out would be disrespectful towards him.
What you're doing is disrespectful though. You want to silence analyzations on why he was suffering, because it could lead to realizations that you don't want for whatever reason. You're the one with the agenda here, not me. I'm just trying to understand his suffering.
Of course, I'd like to point out that noone forced him to kill himself, but all our choices are influenced by our experiences. And his finance problems resulting from his divorce settlements may not have been the biggest reason, but it certainly was one of the reasons. This is pretty obvious considering he's an actor who has clearly stated himself that he got involved in a lot of his projects, (against his better judgment) simply because he had to pay the bills, and he was overloaded on work the last few years. It's hardly a conspiracy to state that his settlements caused him a lot of pain. You could argue how important it was, but it doesn't really matter. He was a victim and that's enough.
It's one thing to attribute his personal strife to his financial situation, and quite another to suggest his suicide should force us to reconsider divorce laws in the US. You're making a ridiculous argument that I can only infer is due to your own personal agenda against said laws.
On August 16 2014 19:08 L1ghtning wrote: He was busy paying off multiple humongous divorce settlements. This is why he was loaded with movie projects lately, and this is most likely the main cause of his downward spiral. It's about time that you do something about those divorce lawyers, and the laws that support them. But noone wants to talk about this, because it's not politically correct.
You don't need to speak for the man. If he'd wanted to attribute his suicide to something, use it to draw attention to an issue or state a reason he had ample opportunity to do so. Failing that all you're doing is taking some cause that you care about and trying to hitch it to this tragedy. It's opportunistic and tasteless.
Bullshit. Everybody is blaming something. And do you really think that he (if his spirit lives on) would be unhappy if his death could lead to more reasonable divorce laws? Not really. It's very clear that he had financial issues, noone can dispute that. And it's also very clear that he was extremely unhappy with his divorce settlements. I can't see how pointing this out would be disrespectful towards him.
What you're doing is disrespectful though. You want to silence analyzations on why he was suffering, because it could lead to realizations that you don't want for whatever reason. You're the one with the agenda here, not me. I'm just trying to understand his suffering.
Of course, I'd like to point out that noone forced him to kill himself, but all our choices are influenced by our experiences. And his finance problems resulting from his divorce settlements may not have been the biggest reason, but it certainly was one of the reasons. This is pretty obvious considering he's an actor who has clearly stated himself that he got involved in a lot of his projects, (against his better judgment) simply because he had to pay the bills, and he was overloaded on work the last few years. It's hardly a conspiracy to state that his settlements caused him a lot of pain. You could argue how important it was, but it doesn't really matter. He was a victim and that's enough.
It's one thing to attribute his personal strife to his financial situation, and quite another to suggest his suicide should force us to reconsider divorce laws in the US. You're making a ridiculous argument that I can only infer is due to your own personal agenda against said laws.
Yeah, we shouldn't really need to have this discussion. But ppl's inability to see what was really going on (why he suffered) is why someone have to bring it up. If noone does it then nothing will change. He didn't commit suicide because of the divorce courts, but he was a victim of the divorce courts. That's what I'm saying, and I'm saying it because noone else is saying it. And noone is saying it because they want to be politically correct.
Everytime that something tragic happens, we should analyze it, and figure out how to prevent it from happening (as often) in the future. But ppl with agendas don't want to explore for the truth if it could hurt their interests.
If I was throwing out baseless accusations, then the opposition would be understandable, but noone can deny that he was a victim of the divorce courts and that the resulting financial struggles caused him a lot of pain.
Anyway, criticizing divorce law, doesn't mean you opposite it entirely. I support divorces obviously, and I see the point in settlements that grants resources to a "lesser" partner, but the system as it stands is unfair, and it needs to be refined.
Loved him and grew up with his movies. One of the most amazing things I see online is all the posts on reddit or wherever about all the little people who have met him and how generous and nice he was to them.
I have nothing to add except that I loved this man, and in his eye's there were always a certain combination of kindness and madness that reminded me of my own father. He was a genius, and it makes me depressed to see him go, especially as he did.