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On March 30 2013 07:28 nafta wrote: Just want to give advice:don't que on friday night.I just played 2 bronze games and I am d5 with a d1 duoq.Top laner 55 cs in 39 minutes and a draven/soraka who managed to lose to vayne/taric rofl.
you didn't see this coming when they paired Soraka with Draven?
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On March 30 2013 05:43 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 03:11 DarKFoRcE wrote: I have been trying around with Kennen Top, and it just didnt go very well. Should I just try to farm and not bother too much with harrasing? Is it better to get ignite or teleport? (assuming you go against someone who is hard to kill)? Does anyone know a good guide that also talks about matchups? Kennen is still ok in his current form, he was much better a few months ago when he had longer Q range and there were fewer gap closing assassins. Kennen's strength is being able to harass and poke melee bruisers with the better end of the trade. If you're playing a gap closer, you need to be able to QWE quickly. For example, if Renekton is Slice and Dicing towards you, you need to be able to stun him as he's coming in before he stuns you. R > Q > W > E, Zhonya should be your first core item. I prefer TP Top, Ignite Mid. P.S.: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=248782 Should read it, even though the content is a bit out of date but Kennen hasn't really changed much since. Feel free to ask questions in that thread. ;o
i checked koreans and they go for QEWWWRW. i feel like you dont really hit much with your Q in laning phase because they just stand behind minions and wont get hit
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On March 30 2013 07:47 DarKFoRcE wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 05:43 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 30 2013 03:11 DarKFoRcE wrote: I have been trying around with Kennen Top, and it just didnt go very well. Should I just try to farm and not bother too much with harrasing? Is it better to get ignite or teleport? (assuming you go against someone who is hard to kill)? Does anyone know a good guide that also talks about matchups? Kennen is still ok in his current form, he was much better a few months ago when he had longer Q range and there were fewer gap closing assassins. Kennen's strength is being able to harass and poke melee bruisers with the better end of the trade. If you're playing a gap closer, you need to be able to QWE quickly. For example, if Renekton is Slice and Dicing towards you, you need to be able to stun him as he's coming in before he stuns you. R > Q > W > E, Zhonya should be your first core item. I prefer TP Top, Ignite Mid. P.S.: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=248782 Should read it, even though the content is a bit out of date but Kennen hasn't really changed much since. Feel free to ask questions in that thread. ;o i checked koreans and they go for QEWWWRW. i feel like you dont really hit much with your Q in laning phase because they just stand behind minions and wont get hit
Well, due to the length and design of Top lane, I can agree that perhaps W max functions better. Mid I would still do Q first since there's less room to maneuver.
Gogo try again and come back with your findings. :D
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K. i stopped playing just before Quinn's release. what were the big changes since then?
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On March 30 2013 07:28 nafta wrote: Just want to give advice:don't que on friday night.I just played 2 bronze games and I am d5 with a d1 duoq.Top laner 55 cs in 39 minutes and a draven/soraka who managed to lose to vayne/taric rofl. on the other hand, friday night dota 2 is the hardest game i've ever played. my friday night dota 2 record has to be something like 1-29.
but iirc friday night LoL is either really miserable or really easy depending on which teammates you get.
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I pity all you gaiz who don't regularly play with a group of 5. :<
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On March 30 2013 07:55 Kenpachi wrote: K. i stopped playing just before Quinn's release. what were the big changes since then? The new format is 5 supports. Minions are as powerful as baron and give 5000g, and they instituted denying.
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On March 30 2013 07:45 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 07:28 nafta wrote: Just want to give advice:don't que on friday night.I just played 2 bronze games and I am d5 with a d1 duoq.Top laner 55 cs in 39 minutes and a draven/soraka who managed to lose to vayne/taric rofl. you didn't see this coming when they paired Soraka with Draven?
Well I expected the soraka to not be very smart.The other guy doesn't really affect the support's choice for champs.But I have to admit I was quite amazed by his d1 skills.Like it's friday maybe people play drunk or something but still.
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On March 30 2013 08:04 NeoIllusions wrote: I pity all you gaiz who don't regularly play with a group of 5. :<
v-v Some of us don't have four friends..
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On March 30 2013 07:53 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 07:47 DarKFoRcE wrote:On March 30 2013 05:43 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 30 2013 03:11 DarKFoRcE wrote: I have been trying around with Kennen Top, and it just didnt go very well. Should I just try to farm and not bother too much with harrasing? Is it better to get ignite or teleport? (assuming you go against someone who is hard to kill)? Does anyone know a good guide that also talks about matchups? Kennen is still ok in his current form, he was much better a few months ago when he had longer Q range and there were fewer gap closing assassins. Kennen's strength is being able to harass and poke melee bruisers with the better end of the trade. If you're playing a gap closer, you need to be able to QWE quickly. For example, if Renekton is Slice and Dicing towards you, you need to be able to stun him as he's coming in before he stuns you. R > Q > W > E, Zhonya should be your first core item. I prefer TP Top, Ignite Mid. P.S.: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=248782 Should read it, even though the content is a bit out of date but Kennen hasn't really changed much since. Feel free to ask questions in that thread. ;o i checked koreans and they go for QEWWWRW. i feel like you dont really hit much with your Q in laning phase because they just stand behind minions and wont get hit Well, due to the length and design of Top lane, I can agree that perhaps W max functions better. Mid I would still do Q first since there's less room to maneuver. Gogo try again and come back with your findings. :D
I also always max Q first on mid kennen. Top lane kennen i max W first unless I fall behind or my opponent can easily punish my autos.
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On March 30 2013 08:12 Parnage wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 08:04 NeoIllusions wrote: I pity all you gaiz who don't regularly play with a group of 5. :< v-v Some of us don't have four friends.. Or four friends we'd trust in a team. v_v
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On March 30 2013 08:15 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 08:12 Parnage wrote:On March 30 2013 08:04 NeoIllusions wrote: I pity all you gaiz who don't regularly play with a group of 5. :< v-v Some of us don't have four friends.. Or four friends we'd trust in a team. v_v I'm sure there are plenty of people on TL that are looking for other people to play with. Of course there's disparity in skill level but you could make it work. I find playing Normals with 3-4 friends a lot more fun than Ranked soloq to be honest lol.
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On March 30 2013 08:19 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 08:15 Gahlo wrote:On March 30 2013 08:12 Parnage wrote:On March 30 2013 08:04 NeoIllusions wrote: I pity all you gaiz who don't regularly play with a group of 5. :< v-v Some of us don't have four friends.. Or four friends we'd trust in a team. v_v I'm sure there are plenty of people on TL that are looking for other people to play with. Of course there's disparity in skill level but you could make it work. I find playing Normals with 3-4 friends a lot more fun than Ranked soloq to be honest lol. I've got a bunch of people I know that I play with, just not for a ranked team.
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On March 30 2013 08:12 Parnage wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 08:04 NeoIllusions wrote: I pity all you gaiz who don't regularly play with a group of 5. :< v-v Some of us don't have four friends..
so saddums :<
Edit: I really wonder why (or perhaps I'm just clueless) why there aren't more "cliques" on TL where our users actually play together. For me personally, I don't have that much time to mass games so grinding ranked isn't ideal for my time. So instead, I actually play a lot of normals with gandhisauce and the normal fun police. Good times to be had.
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On March 30 2013 07:53 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 07:47 DarKFoRcE wrote:On March 30 2013 05:43 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 30 2013 03:11 DarKFoRcE wrote: I have been trying around with Kennen Top, and it just didnt go very well. Should I just try to farm and not bother too much with harrasing? Is it better to get ignite or teleport? (assuming you go against someone who is hard to kill)? Does anyone know a good guide that also talks about matchups? Kennen is still ok in his current form, he was much better a few months ago when he had longer Q range and there were fewer gap closing assassins. Kennen's strength is being able to harass and poke melee bruisers with the better end of the trade. If you're playing a gap closer, you need to be able to QWE quickly. For example, if Renekton is Slice and Dicing towards you, you need to be able to stun him as he's coming in before he stuns you. R > Q > W > E, Zhonya should be your first core item. I prefer TP Top, Ignite Mid. P.S.: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=248782 Should read it, even though the content is a bit out of date but Kennen hasn't really changed much since. Feel free to ask questions in that thread. ;o i checked koreans and they go for QEWWWRW. i feel like you dont really hit much with your Q in laning phase because they just stand behind minions and wont get hit Well, due to the length and design of Top lane, I can agree that perhaps W max functions better. Mid I would still do Q first since there's less room to maneuver. Gogo try again and come back with your findings. :D
I knew W max was standard back when Kennen had le infinite auto attack range. Q max is objectively better though against ranged champions, though. The biggest issue with Q max I felt was that you were putting too much weight on a skill shot ability; so essentially if you missed your Q, opponent knew they could abuse the living shit out of it; also it's easier to dodge skill shots if you're playing defensive, however when you're jumping onto someone, it's far harder to dodge skillshot. Wasn't quite sure at modern Kennen (lulz no range) + 20 champions w/ 5 sec cd gap closer, skill leveling. I guess same principles still apply to his skill lvling.
On March 30 2013 07:38 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 07:20 NeoIllusions wrote: wtf Karma. If you don't have a jump, how do you escape from the tether. My poor Ryze (pretty bad to begin with) cried. I blame shit OP MoonBear for not adding the white box of text at the top of the thread, allowing QQing kids like this guy here to just cry about what he sucks against, further making GD a cesspool of complete shit. Could be worse, he could be making pokemon posts, or having a bipolar diatribe with his non-admin alter ego.
On March 30 2013 08:12 Parnage wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 08:04 NeoIllusions wrote: I pity all you gaiz who don't regularly play with a group of 5. :< v-v Some of us don't have four friends.. Some of us don't have BW bonjwa apm...
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On March 30 2013 07:38 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 07:20 NeoIllusions wrote: wtf Karma. If you don't have a jump, how do you escape from the tether. My poor Ryze (pretty bad to begin with) cried. I blame shit OP MoonBear for not adding the white box of text at the top of the thread, allowing QQing kids like this guy here to just cry about what he sucks against, further making GD a cesspool of complete shit.
lololol, it's my fault. I'll try to QQ less in GD. I AM SORRY GAIZ
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On March 30 2013 08:22 NeoIllusions wrote: Edit: I really wonder why (or perhaps I'm just clueless) why there aren't more "cliques" on TL where our users actually play together. For me personally, I don't have that much time to mass games so grinding ranked isn't ideal for my time. So instead, I actually play a lot of normals with gandhisauce and the normal fun police. Good times to be had.
You're clueless duh.
Hang out in LiquidParty/LiquidPractice more or add Ares to your FL and play with us.
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On March 30 2013 08:22 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 08:12 Parnage wrote:On March 30 2013 08:04 NeoIllusions wrote: I pity all you gaiz who don't regularly play with a group of 5. :< v-v Some of us don't have four friends.. so saddums :< Edit: I really wonder why (or perhaps I'm just clueless) why there aren't more "cliques" on TL where our users actually play together. For me personally, I don't have that much time to mass games so grinding ranked isn't ideal for my time. So instead, I actually play a lot of normals with gandhisauce and the normal fun police. Good times to be had. I think it's a combination of the fact that ranked can't be played in stacks of 3 or 4, and normal is seen as a "second-class" queue because the vast majority of players at the top end play ranked over normals, even for casual games. So people end up feeling it's more "productive" to play solo queue than 3-4 stack normals, and it's too hard to get 5 together.
I'm curious to see how things would be if there was separation between ranked and normals, with no visible MMR and Riot just published the rank of the top 100 players by hidden MMR every week.
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On March 30 2013 08:20 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 08:19 onlywonderboy wrote:On March 30 2013 08:15 Gahlo wrote:On March 30 2013 08:12 Parnage wrote:On March 30 2013 08:04 NeoIllusions wrote: I pity all you gaiz who don't regularly play with a group of 5. :< v-v Some of us don't have four friends.. Or four friends we'd trust in a team. v_v I'm sure there are plenty of people on TL that are looking for other people to play with. Of course there's disparity in skill level but you could make it work. I find playing Normals with 3-4 friends a lot more fun than Ranked soloq to be honest lol. I've got a bunch of people I know that I play with, just not for a ranked team. Oh yeah, that would be hard. Getting a group of similarly skilled players is a bit harder. I want to try but my friends are really opposed to the idea of just playing one role as they like to just play whatever they feel like. Maybe one of these days.
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On March 30 2013 08:22 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 08:12 Parnage wrote:On March 30 2013 08:04 NeoIllusions wrote: I pity all you gaiz who don't regularly play with a group of 5. :< v-v Some of us don't have four friends.. so saddums :< Edit: I really wonder why (or perhaps I'm just clueless) why there aren't more "cliques" on TL where our users actually play together. For me personally, I don't have that much time to mass games so grinding ranked isn't ideal for my time. So instead, I actually play a lot of normals with gandhisauce and the normal fun police. Good times to be had. i think there are cliques, they just don't post in GD that often.
i remember playing with swim quite a bit.
i also remember playing with red. i like that guy, he's hilarious.
also i've stopped playing solo q, mostly normals with friends too, games are good. sometimes arranged 5s if the team is up. it's such a relief when you can play this game and not be yelled at.
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