• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:24
CEST 23:24
KST 06:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview17Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL46Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30
Community News
GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th10Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0EWC 2025 Regional Qualifier Results26Code S RO12 Results + RO8 Groups (2025 Season 2)3Weekly Cups (May 19-25): Hindsight is 20/20?0
StarCraft 2
General
Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th Serious Question: Mech
Tourneys
Bellum Gens Elite: Stara Zagora 2025 $25,000+ WardiTV 2025 Series Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SOOP Starcraft Global #21 $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void
Brood War
General
FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? BW General Discussion BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Battle.net is not working
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Monster Hunter Wilds Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Vape Nation Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
Research study on team perfo…
TrAiDoS
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Poker
Nebuchad
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 18041 users

[News] KeSPA changes 'ppp' rule

Forum Index > BW General
111 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66155 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-09 07:21:19
May 08 2009 14:27 GMT
#1
KeSPA changes 'ppp' rule.

[image loading]


KeSPA has revealed that they are changing their rules regarding pausing the game.

After a meeting held on the 7th of May to discuss the 'pp' incident regarding Leta which occurred on the 28th of April, they have decided to change the rules.

Between Section 8 and 13 of the rules, which are related to pausing the game, section 8 remains unchanged while section 13, which states that typing anything other than 'ppp' resulting in a disqualification was removed.

The new rule was take place starting from the Bacchus OSL Round of 36, Group 2, which will be held on the 8th of May (friday).

▶ Section 8, Game pause based on player's request
◆ Before change
In the situations described below, the players can type 'p' multiple times to request for a pause. (But when there is a problem with a keyboard the game can be paused immediately). Under the referee's command "Pause", the game can be paused. What happens to the game is depending on the referee's judgment.

8.11 Misc - When situations occur which cause the game to work out differently than before the start of the game (graphic, lag, system problems, etc)

◆ After change
In the situations described below, the players can type 'p' multiple times as well as any other keys to request for a pause. (But when there is a problem with a keyboard the game can be paused immediately). Under the referee's command "Pause", the game can be paused. What happens to the game is depending on the referee's judgment.

8.11 Misc - When a situation which affects gameplay based on the player's judgment occurs.

▶ Section 13, Declaration of acceptance of loss
◆ Before change
Only 'gg (lower casing in English), GG (caps in English)' will be accepted as declarations of acceptance of loss. If the player types anything other than 'ppp (game pause request)' or the aforementioned declarations to declare acceptance of loss, it will result in a disqualification and a warning (with effect from 11th April 2009)

◆ After change
Section 13, Declaration of acceptance of loss
Only 'gg (lower casing in English), GG (caps in English)' will be accepted as declarations of acceptance of loss. Typing anything else to declare acceptance of loss will result in a disqualification and a warning. (With effect from 11th April 2009)

Source: Fomos.kr

On May 09 2009 15:16 Smix wrote:
Poor leta.

netizens agree:
- i feel so fucking bad for leta...
- wow WTF are you fucking kidding me you bastards? hahahhahhahahaa.. wow, leta just became the victim here you fucking crazy bastards... you should have made the rules properly from the start what the fuck do you guys do right anyway?????????????
- ge-spa just shoves a shitload of money up their ass while they do nothing.
- what are you going to do about leta ge-spa!!!!!!! fuck, i'm starting to curse...
- what are you going to do about leta.. what are you going to do about leta who is shocked and heavily affected because of this...
- kespa work is easier than being a reporter
- this announcement will just make leta cry twice.
Facebook Twitter Reddit
POGGERS
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
May 08 2009 14:36 GMT
#2
That's a good news!
The copyright of this post belongs solely to me. Nobody else, not teamliquid, not greetech and not even blizzard have any share of this copyright. You can copy, distribute, use in commercial purposes the content of this post or parts of it freely.
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
May 08 2009 14:38 GMT
#3
Great! They should issue a formal apology to Leta though hahah
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66155 Posts
May 08 2009 14:39 GMT
#4
They should make another Hite vs STX, same map, same players.
POGGERS
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
May 08 2009 14:41 GMT
#5
This is just addressing a symptom, not the root problem. I presume the ridiculous situation and the backlash from Korean fans caused them to take this step, but unfortunately (from my point of view) they really haven't re-thought how to make Starcraft more popular.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Tyrant
Profile Joined September 2003
Korea (South)234 Posts
May 08 2009 14:44 GMT
#6
It's nice to see KESPA admit their stupidity publicly.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66155 Posts
May 08 2009 14:45 GMT
#7
On May 08 2009 23:44 Tyrant wrote:
It's nice to see KESPA admit their stupidity publicly.

Oh no they didn't admit. No official statement saying 'sorry, we were retards'.
POGGERS
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
May 08 2009 14:46 GMT
#8
how about ziziyo?
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66155 Posts
May 08 2009 14:51 GMT
#9
zizi yO is still a nonO
POGGERS
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-08 14:55:02
May 08 2009 14:54 GMT
#10
On May 08 2009 23:41 Zona wrote:
This is just addressing a symptom, not the root problem. I presume the ridiculous situation and the backlash from Korean fans caused them to take this step, but unfortunately (from my point of view) they really haven't re-thought how to make Starcraft more popular.


even after what has been done Leta will still be pp-terran
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
May 08 2009 14:54 GMT
#11
They owe Leta and Sparkyz an apology
I hope judge Chang got fired
Translator
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
May 08 2009 14:56 GMT
#12
Netizen anger aint nothing to fuck with! I'm sure they realised they'd be losing viewers if they kept on making up stupid rules.
naonao
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States847 Posts
May 08 2009 14:58 GMT
#13
Section 13, Declaration of acceptance of loss
Only 'gg (lower casing in English), GG (caps in English)' will be accepted as declarations of acceptance of loss. Typing anything else to declare acceptance of loss will result in a disqualification and a warning. (With effect from 11th April 2009


Does that even mean anything? If your accepting your loss you've already lost and a DQ wouldn't change the actual result.....
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66155 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-08 15:02:01
May 08 2009 15:01 GMT
#14
On May 08 2009 23:58 naonao wrote:
Show nested quote +
Section 13, Declaration of acceptance of loss
Only 'gg (lower casing in English), GG (caps in English)' will be accepted as declarations of acceptance of loss. Typing anything else to declare acceptance of loss will result in a disqualification and a warning. (With effect from 11th April 2009


Does that even mean anything? If your accepting your loss you've already lost and a DQ wouldn't change the actual result.....

The DQ will result in the game "not being counted in the official record of the player" but "will still be counted in the official record of the map the game was played on". Which I say it's a good thing. Keep doing that for every game you're going to lose since your debut, and you'll have 100% win rate for the rest of your life.

If only I could do that on ICCup. I'll be number 1 in Singapore for sure.
POGGERS
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
May 08 2009 15:07 GMT
#15
On May 09 2009 00:01 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2009 23:58 naonao wrote:
Section 13, Declaration of acceptance of loss
Only 'gg (lower casing in English), GG (caps in English)' will be accepted as declarations of acceptance of loss. Typing anything else to declare acceptance of loss will result in a disqualification and a warning. (With effect from 11th April 2009


Does that even mean anything? If your accepting your loss you've already lost and a DQ wouldn't change the actual result.....

The DQ will result in the game "not being counted in the official record of the player" but "will still be counted in the official record of the map the game was played on". Which I say it's a good thing. Keep doing that for every game you're going to lose since your debut, and you'll have 100% win rate for the rest of your life.

If only I could do that on ICCup. I'll be number 1 in Singapore for sure.


I believe it's actually the reverse. It counts towards the official record of the player, but will NOT count in the official record of the map the game was played on.
Translator
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66155 Posts
May 08 2009 15:09 GMT
#16
On May 09 2009 00:07 rotinegg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2009 00:01 konadora wrote:
On May 08 2009 23:58 naonao wrote:
Section 13, Declaration of acceptance of loss
Only 'gg (lower casing in English), GG (caps in English)' will be accepted as declarations of acceptance of loss. Typing anything else to declare acceptance of loss will result in a disqualification and a warning. (With effect from 11th April 2009


Does that even mean anything? If your accepting your loss you've already lost and a DQ wouldn't change the actual result.....

The DQ will result in the game "not being counted in the official record of the player" but "will still be counted in the official record of the map the game was played on". Which I say it's a good thing. Keep doing that for every game you're going to lose since your debut, and you'll have 100% win rate for the rest of your life.

If only I could do that on ICCup. I'll be number 1 in Singapore for sure.


I believe it's actually the reverse. It counts towards the official record of the player, but will NOT count in the official record of the map the game was played on.

They said what I mentioned in one of the matches (I think I said this in a LR thread). Unless I'm starting to have problems with my ear or my mind is going haywire.

I'll just double check to be sure, dunno where I can though
POGGERS
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
May 08 2009 15:11 GMT
#17
yea lol i just looked through kespa's rulebook cuz im not too sure either, but I can't find it. I'm pretty sure that's what I heard though
Translator
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 08 2009 15:15 GMT
#18
From the changed wording, can players chat in game if they feel like? (There's no limits on anything besides conceding defeat)
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
May 08 2009 15:20 GMT
#19
Sounds like a step in the right direction from KeSPA. Unfortunately, the rule system needs bigger changes. For example, the "gg" rule is still nonsensical and unnecessary - it doesn't even address the problem it was created to solve.
✌
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66155 Posts
May 08 2009 15:21 GMT
#20
On May 09 2009 00:15 Nevuk wrote:
From the changed wording, can players chat in game if they feel like? (There's no limits on anything besides conceding defeat)


I think there are other rules not mentioned in this article that forbids that. I think it was made after that game involving Boxer on Forte about how he said his base was small, and his opponent starting checking madly for a proxy.
POGGERS
1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12h 36m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 168
ForJumy 95
StarCraft: Brood War
MaD[AoV]64
Dota 2
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
fl0m6318
Foxcn719
flusha216
Stewie2K74
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0531
hungrybox230
Mew2King63
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby3720
Liquid`Hasu569
Other Games
summit1g6513
FrodaN1334
elazer116
Pyrionflax101
Trikslyr78
ZombieGrub68
ViBE55
Tefel3
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream1038
Other Games
BasetradeTV28
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta36
• musti20045 30
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 57
• Eskiya23 13
• FirePhoenix1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21237
League of Legends
• Doublelift4916
• TFBlade1600
• Shiphtur495
Other Games
• imaqtpie1291
• Scarra557
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
12h 36m
Bellum Gens Elite
13h 36m
WardiTV Invitational
13h 36m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
OSC
1d 2h
Bellum Gens Elite
1d 13h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 16h
BSL 2v2 ProLeague
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
[ Show More ]
SC Evo League
2 days
Bellum Gens Elite
2 days
Fire Grow Cup
2 days
CSO Contender
2 days
BSL: ProLeague
2 days
StRyKeR vs MadiNho
Cross vs UltrA
TT1 vs JDConan
Bonyth vs Sziky
Replay Cast
3 days
SOOP Global
3 days
Creator vs Rogue
Cure vs Classic
SOOP
3 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
AllThingsProtoss
3 days
Fire Grow Cup
3 days
BSL: ProLeague
3 days
HBO vs Doodle
spx vs Tech
DragOn vs Hawk
Dewalt vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
GSL Code S
6 days
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 1
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
2025 GSL S2
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.