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[News] KeSPA changes 'ppp' rule

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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-09 07:21:19
May 08 2009 14:27 GMT
#1
KeSPA changes 'ppp' rule.

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KeSPA has revealed that they are changing their rules regarding pausing the game.

After a meeting held on the 7th of May to discuss the 'pp' incident regarding Leta which occurred on the 28th of April, they have decided to change the rules.

Between Section 8 and 13 of the rules, which are related to pausing the game, section 8 remains unchanged while section 13, which states that typing anything other than 'ppp' resulting in a disqualification was removed.

The new rule was take place starting from the Bacchus OSL Round of 36, Group 2, which will be held on the 8th of May (friday).

▶ Section 8, Game pause based on player's request
◆ Before change
In the situations described below, the players can type 'p' multiple times to request for a pause. (But when there is a problem with a keyboard the game can be paused immediately). Under the referee's command "Pause", the game can be paused. What happens to the game is depending on the referee's judgment.

8.11 Misc - When situations occur which cause the game to work out differently than before the start of the game (graphic, lag, system problems, etc)

◆ After change
In the situations described below, the players can type 'p' multiple times as well as any other keys to request for a pause. (But when there is a problem with a keyboard the game can be paused immediately). Under the referee's command "Pause", the game can be paused. What happens to the game is depending on the referee's judgment.

8.11 Misc - When a situation which affects gameplay based on the player's judgment occurs.

▶ Section 13, Declaration of acceptance of loss
◆ Before change
Only 'gg (lower casing in English), GG (caps in English)' will be accepted as declarations of acceptance of loss. If the player types anything other than 'ppp (game pause request)' or the aforementioned declarations to declare acceptance of loss, it will result in a disqualification and a warning (with effect from 11th April 2009)

◆ After change
Section 13, Declaration of acceptance of loss
Only 'gg (lower casing in English), GG (caps in English)' will be accepted as declarations of acceptance of loss. Typing anything else to declare acceptance of loss will result in a disqualification and a warning. (With effect from 11th April 2009)

Source: Fomos.kr

On May 09 2009 15:16 Smix wrote:
Poor leta.

netizens agree:
- i feel so fucking bad for leta...
- wow WTF are you fucking kidding me you bastards? hahahhahhahahaa.. wow, leta just became the victim here you fucking crazy bastards... you should have made the rules properly from the start what the fuck do you guys do right anyway?????????????
- ge-spa just shoves a shitload of money up their ass while they do nothing.
- what are you going to do about leta ge-spa!!!!!!! fuck, i'm starting to curse...
- what are you going to do about leta.. what are you going to do about leta who is shocked and heavily affected because of this...
- kespa work is easier than being a reporter
- this announcement will just make leta cry twice.
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arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
May 08 2009 14:36 GMT
#2
That's a good news!
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Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
May 08 2009 14:38 GMT
#3
Great! They should issue a formal apology to Leta though hahah
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
May 08 2009 14:39 GMT
#4
They should make another Hite vs STX, same map, same players.
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
May 08 2009 14:41 GMT
#5
This is just addressing a symptom, not the root problem. I presume the ridiculous situation and the backlash from Korean fans caused them to take this step, but unfortunately (from my point of view) they really haven't re-thought how to make Starcraft more popular.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Tyrant
Profile Joined September 2003
Korea (South)234 Posts
May 08 2009 14:44 GMT
#6
It's nice to see KESPA admit their stupidity publicly.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
May 08 2009 14:45 GMT
#7
On May 08 2009 23:44 Tyrant wrote:
It's nice to see KESPA admit their stupidity publicly.

Oh no they didn't admit. No official statement saying 'sorry, we were retards'.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
May 08 2009 14:46 GMT
#8
how about ziziyo?
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
May 08 2009 14:51 GMT
#9
zizi yO is still a nonO
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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-08 14:55:02
May 08 2009 14:54 GMT
#10
On May 08 2009 23:41 Zona wrote:
This is just addressing a symptom, not the root problem. I presume the ridiculous situation and the backlash from Korean fans caused them to take this step, but unfortunately (from my point of view) they really haven't re-thought how to make Starcraft more popular.


even after what has been done Leta will still be pp-terran
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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
May 08 2009 14:54 GMT
#11
They owe Leta and Sparkyz an apology
I hope judge Chang got fired
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StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
May 08 2009 14:56 GMT
#12
Netizen anger aint nothing to fuck with! I'm sure they realised they'd be losing viewers if they kept on making up stupid rules.
naonao
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States847 Posts
May 08 2009 14:58 GMT
#13
Section 13, Declaration of acceptance of loss
Only 'gg (lower casing in English), GG (caps in English)' will be accepted as declarations of acceptance of loss. Typing anything else to declare acceptance of loss will result in a disqualification and a warning. (With effect from 11th April 2009


Does that even mean anything? If your accepting your loss you've already lost and a DQ wouldn't change the actual result.....
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-08 15:02:01
May 08 2009 15:01 GMT
#14
On May 08 2009 23:58 naonao wrote:
Show nested quote +
Section 13, Declaration of acceptance of loss
Only 'gg (lower casing in English), GG (caps in English)' will be accepted as declarations of acceptance of loss. Typing anything else to declare acceptance of loss will result in a disqualification and a warning. (With effect from 11th April 2009


Does that even mean anything? If your accepting your loss you've already lost and a DQ wouldn't change the actual result.....

The DQ will result in the game "not being counted in the official record of the player" but "will still be counted in the official record of the map the game was played on". Which I say it's a good thing. Keep doing that for every game you're going to lose since your debut, and you'll have 100% win rate for the rest of your life.

If only I could do that on ICCup. I'll be number 1 in Singapore for sure.
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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
May 08 2009 15:07 GMT
#15
On May 09 2009 00:01 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2009 23:58 naonao wrote:
Section 13, Declaration of acceptance of loss
Only 'gg (lower casing in English), GG (caps in English)' will be accepted as declarations of acceptance of loss. Typing anything else to declare acceptance of loss will result in a disqualification and a warning. (With effect from 11th April 2009


Does that even mean anything? If your accepting your loss you've already lost and a DQ wouldn't change the actual result.....

The DQ will result in the game "not being counted in the official record of the player" but "will still be counted in the official record of the map the game was played on". Which I say it's a good thing. Keep doing that for every game you're going to lose since your debut, and you'll have 100% win rate for the rest of your life.

If only I could do that on ICCup. I'll be number 1 in Singapore for sure.


I believe it's actually the reverse. It counts towards the official record of the player, but will NOT count in the official record of the map the game was played on.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
May 08 2009 15:09 GMT
#16
On May 09 2009 00:07 rotinegg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2009 00:01 konadora wrote:
On May 08 2009 23:58 naonao wrote:
Section 13, Declaration of acceptance of loss
Only 'gg (lower casing in English), GG (caps in English)' will be accepted as declarations of acceptance of loss. Typing anything else to declare acceptance of loss will result in a disqualification and a warning. (With effect from 11th April 2009


Does that even mean anything? If your accepting your loss you've already lost and a DQ wouldn't change the actual result.....

The DQ will result in the game "not being counted in the official record of the player" but "will still be counted in the official record of the map the game was played on". Which I say it's a good thing. Keep doing that for every game you're going to lose since your debut, and you'll have 100% win rate for the rest of your life.

If only I could do that on ICCup. I'll be number 1 in Singapore for sure.


I believe it's actually the reverse. It counts towards the official record of the player, but will NOT count in the official record of the map the game was played on.

They said what I mentioned in one of the matches (I think I said this in a LR thread). Unless I'm starting to have problems with my ear or my mind is going haywire.

I'll just double check to be sure, dunno where I can though
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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
May 08 2009 15:11 GMT
#17
yea lol i just looked through kespa's rulebook cuz im not too sure either, but I can't find it. I'm pretty sure that's what I heard though
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 08 2009 15:15 GMT
#18
From the changed wording, can players chat in game if they feel like? (There's no limits on anything besides conceding defeat)
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
May 08 2009 15:20 GMT
#19
Sounds like a step in the right direction from KeSPA. Unfortunately, the rule system needs bigger changes. For example, the "gg" rule is still nonsensical and unnecessary - it doesn't even address the problem it was created to solve.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
May 08 2009 15:21 GMT
#20
On May 09 2009 00:15 Nevuk wrote:
From the changed wording, can players chat in game if they feel like? (There's no limits on anything besides conceding defeat)


I think there are other rules not mentioned in this article that forbids that. I think it was made after that game involving Boxer on Forte about how he said his base was small, and his opponent starting checking madly for a proxy.
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