• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:06
CEST 17:06
KST 00:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy3GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding7Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage5Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Quebec Clan still alive ? BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion JD's Ro24 review BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F [BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition What's the deal with APM & what's its true value
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The China Politics Thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Streamers Inspire Gamers…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1817 users

[Q&A] Wired interviews Browder

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
October 14 2008 05:57 GMT
#1
I did search for this using the search function, couldn't be bothered manually looking in all the threads so I thought I'd post this, if it's old, close thread.:

http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/10/qa-starcraft-ii.html

Quite long ... and Browder is cool...
Oh no
caution.slip
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States775 Posts
October 14 2008 06:14 GMT
#2
i can't tell if this is fake, i can't imagine browder saying "fuck that" in a public interview, very unprofessional
Live, laugh, love
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5459 Posts
October 14 2008 06:18 GMT
#3
Haha, "fuck that!" from Bowder.
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
October 14 2008 06:29 GMT
#4
Great interview. Browder seems totally genuine and that's what I love about Blizzard. They aren't corporate suits. They're kids inside who are just insanely passionate about what they want to make and why they want to make it.

If any company in the world can create the next Starcraft. It's Blizzard.
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
Shadowfury333
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada314 Posts
October 14 2008 06:30 GMT
#5
The overall tenor of the responses seems like Browder. I'd like to see some additional confirmation, like a video interview.

The comment at the end about him preferring to add value over costs is heartening, though. It means there's less of a chance of added costs to B.Net that screw over entry to competitive gaming.
Darkness called...but I was on the phone, so I missed him. I tried to *69 darkness, but his machine picked up. I yelled "Pick up the phone, Darkness", but he ignored me. Darkness must have been screening his calls.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-14 06:39:35
October 14 2008 06:36 GMT
#6
Wired: Are these going to be the kind of things that only -- I don’t wanna say the changes are “nuanced,” but they’re the sort of things that will only be noticed by the hardcore high level players?

Browder: I dunno. I mean, it’s hard for me to say. I’ve become a bit hardcore myself over the last couple years, so we’ll kinda see when we get it in front of a lot of casual guys.

There’s a lot of casual guys in the studio. We’ve got such a big studio now with all the WoW people we’ve hired. The response so far has not been like that.


wat

(great interview tho :d)
Hates Fun🤔
Phrogs!
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Japan521 Posts
October 14 2008 07:09 GMT
#7
Wired: That’s the exact opposite of what EA says.

Browder: Oh, I know. I used to work there.


rofl

Great interview thanks for posting^^
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
October 14 2008 07:19 GMT
#8
Wired: So is that -- assuming this all works -- it seems kinda reminiscent of what Valve is doing with Half-Life 2 where they originally stated it was episodic, but then they decided to make the episodes their own games. Is that the direction Blizzard wants to go with their games?

Browder: I don’t think we've thought of it in that sense. It’s not like we considered the philosophical choice of whether we want to be more or less like Valve. We just looked at this product, this problem, and this was our solution.

I mean, definitely, what Valve is doing came up in our discussions. “They’re doing this, is that something that would work for us?” but it’s not like a premonition of things to come. This means nothing to Diablo -- unless it does. Unless they go “Hey, we’ve got the same problem, maybe that would solve it for us.” But I don’t think that that’s necessarily the case.
What exactly did Valve do?

Wired: When WarCraft III came out, like you said, the editor really took off. Moreso than the old 2-D editors. There was a mod, whose name I’m forgetting, but some people tried to recreate StarCraft within WarCraft III. I believe this was like 5 or 6 years ago. What happened was that Blizzard stepped in and sent them a Cease & Desist ...

Browder: Really? How interesting. I hadn’t heard that.
¬¬
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-14 07:25:48
October 14 2008 07:24 GMT
#9
I like this part:
Wired: People are still buying WarCraft III just to play DotA.

Browder: I’ve heard many such stories. And even if it wasn’t money in our pocket, it’s still just a fun experience for them, and that’s all we’re here to sell. That’s all we’re trying to do.

Wired: That’s the exact opposite of what EA says.

Browder: Oh, I know. I used to work there.



edit: oh damn, i submitted late... haha was busy conversing..
"Eyes in the sky."
Daniri
Profile Joined May 2007
387 Posts
October 14 2008 07:31 GMT
#10
What exactly did Valve do?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half_Life_2#Expansions_and_modifications
"you guys are silly lol thats why i hate you people" berserkboar
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-14 07:51:15
October 14 2008 07:44 GMT
#11
On October 14 2008 16:19 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
Wired: So is that -- assuming this all works -- it seems kinda reminiscent of what Valve is doing with Half-Life 2 where they originally stated it was episodic, but then they decided to make the episodes their own games. Is that the direction Blizzard wants to go with their games?

Browder: I don’t think we've thought of it in that sense. It’s not like we considered the philosophical choice of whether we want to be more or less like Valve. We just looked at this product, this problem, and this was our solution.

I mean, definitely, what Valve is doing came up in our discussions. “They’re doing this, is that something that would work for us?” but it’s not like a premonition of things to come. This means nothing to Diablo -- unless it does. Unless they go “Hey, we’ve got the same problem, maybe that would solve it for us.” But I don’t think that that’s necessarily the case.
What exactly did Valve do?

Show nested quote +
Wired: When WarCraft III came out, like you said, the editor really took off. Moreso than the old 2-D editors. There was a mod, whose name I’m forgetting, but some people tried to recreate StarCraft within WarCraft III. I believe this was like 5 or 6 years ago. What happened was that Blizzard stepped in and sent them a Cease & Desist ...

Browder: Really? How interesting. I hadn’t heard that.
¬¬


On Valve:
Most devs would usually discuss about the STEAM platform concerning VALVE but in this case, it's just about their HL2: ep 1... ep2... ep3... etc content delivery.

On the part about SC mod:
Wired got it significantly wrong. Very wrong. Project Revolution never got a C&D (unless they got one recently). Project Revolution did notify Blizz. Project Revolution would still required SC & BW cds thus not affecting their sales(legally). Project Revolution's progress going slow... heh.

The only significant one that receive a C&D was the one that modded Half Life. I would think the one converting C&C:Generals received one as well but I can't be too sure about that.

Better ask the more hardcore old-timers in mapmaking/modding for clearer details. I hung out in mapmaking but wasn't too hardcore so what I wrote was just the gist of it.
"Eyes in the sky."
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 14 2008 07:48 GMT
#12
Wired: When WarCraft III came out, like you said, the editor really took off. Moreso than the old 2-D editors. There was a mod, whose name I’m forgetting, but some people tried to recreate StarCraft within WarCraft III. I believe this was like 5 or 6 years ago. What happened was that Blizzard stepped in and sent them a Cease & Desist ...

Browder: Really? How interesting. I hadn’t heard that.


Doesn't Wired mean recreate Warcraft 3 in Starcraft? Because Im pretty sure it was the other way around >.> maybe my engrish sucks.
dats racist
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
October 14 2008 07:48 GMT
#13
Oh I see it, thanks a lot Daniri

On October 14 2008 16:24 Aerox wrote:
I like this part:
Show nested quote +
Wired: People are still buying WarCraft III just to play DotA.

Browder: I’ve heard many such stories. And even if it wasn’t money in our pocket, it’s still just a fun experience for them, and that’s all we’re here to sell. That’s all we’re trying to do.

Wired: That’s the exact opposite of what EA says.

Browder: Oh, I know. I used to work there.

And you really don't see how it's controversial with this + Show Spoiler +
Wired: When WarCraft III came out, like you said, the editor really took off. Moreso than the old 2-D editors. There was a mod, whose name I’m forgetting, but some people tried to recreate StarCraft within WarCraft III. I believe this was like 5 or 6 years ago. What happened was that Blizzard stepped in and sent them a Cease & Desist ...

Browder: Really? How interesting. I hadn’t heard that.
?
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
October 14 2008 07:55 GMT
#14
On October 14 2008 16:48 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
Wired: When WarCraft III came out, like you said, the editor really took off. Moreso than the old 2-D editors. There was a mod, whose name I’m forgetting, but some people tried to recreate StarCraft within WarCraft III. I believe this was like 5 or 6 years ago. What happened was that Blizzard stepped in and sent them a Cease & Desist ...

Browder: Really? How interesting. I hadn’t heard that.


Doesn't Wired mean recreate Warcraft 3 in Starcraft? Because Im pretty sure it was the other way around >.> maybe my engrish sucks.


That one would be Warcraft 2 in StarCraft. And yes, they did receive a C&D but i think it was much more than 5/6 years ago....
"Eyes in the sky."
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
October 14 2008 08:04 GMT
#15
Yea never mind, did some quick googling and it seems like Blizzard never sent them the C&D indeed.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
October 14 2008 08:08 GMT
#16
did Project Revolution really get that C&D? i thought terran beta get released a few months ago?
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
October 14 2008 08:08 GMT
#17
On October 14 2008 16:48 VIB wrote:
Oh I see it, thanks a lot Daniri

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2008 16:24 Aerox wrote:
I like this part:
Wired: People are still buying WarCraft III just to play DotA.

Browder: I’ve heard many such stories. And even if it wasn’t money in our pocket, it’s still just a fun experience for them, and that’s all we’re here to sell. That’s all we’re trying to do.

Wired: That’s the exact opposite of what EA says.

Browder: Oh, I know. I used to work there.

And you really don't see how it's controversial with this + Show Spoiler +
Wired: When WarCraft III came out, like you said, the editor really took off. Moreso than the old 2-D editors. There was a mod, whose name I’m forgetting, but some people tried to recreate StarCraft within WarCraft III. I believe this was like 5 or 6 years ago. What happened was that Blizzard stepped in and sent them a Cease & Desist ...

Browder: Really? How interesting. I hadn’t heard that.
?

Browder is the head developer, not the company head. Browder is powerless over the lawyers but he may consult with Morhaime about them but since it's ActiBlizzard now, maybe it's Kotick now. Still, it's the business people who are handling them so there's no conflict there.
"Eyes in the sky."
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-14 13:55:05
October 14 2008 13:48 GMT
#18
On October 14 2008 16:55 Aerox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2008 16:48 MrHoon wrote:
Wired: When WarCraft III came out, like you said, the editor really took off. Moreso than the old 2-D editors. There was a mod, whose name I’m forgetting, but some people tried to recreate StarCraft within WarCraft III. I believe this was like 5 or 6 years ago. What happened was that Blizzard stepped in and sent them a Cease & Desist ...

Browder: Really? How interesting. I hadn’t heard that.


Doesn't Wired mean recreate Warcraft 3 in Starcraft? Because Im pretty sure it was the other way around >.> maybe my engrish sucks.


That one would be Warcraft 2 in StarCraft. And yes, they did receive a C&D but i think it was much more than 5/6 years ago....

The mod was called WC3 tho, if I remember correctly. It wasn't a straight up WC3 or WC2 conversion tho, I mean they had ogres and shit which isn't in the orc race for WC3, but they also had taurens/minotaurs, which are in WC3 but not WC2. Then the whole demon race for zerg etc.

On October 14 2008 17:08 b_unnies wrote:
did Project Revolution really get that C&D? i thought terran beta get released a few months ago?

Probably speaking of the abovementioned SC->WC3/2 conversion which did get a cease and desist.
You can read the C&D letter here: http://web.archive.org/web/20030801082505/www.infoceptor.com/war3tc/
Or check out the mod here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20020205094759/www.infoceptor.net/war3tc/

Or dl it here, thanks to Iskatsu:
On October 11 2008 12:26 IskatuMesk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2008 12:21 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Not to hijack this thread, but does anyone else remember the total conversion of SC into a WC3/WC2 game, that was then shut down by blizzard shortly before they released WC3?

Hosted on Infoceptor iirc. Really liked that mod, if anyone still has it I'd appreciate an upload =]


Hey. I think I still have it somewhere. If not then I'd know where to get it. I'll see if I can find time to hunt it down sometime.

/edit

Aha, quick search found it.

iirc I remember the mod having arsenal/ice corruption in it. Which basically means that it has a lovely tendency to crash randomly, and fairly frequently in mid and late game. The delights of long outdated tools. I can't remember if the exes are Stargraft or Mpqdraft exes, but you can just rename your patch mpq with the mod's one to launch it if they throw you some weird error. This of course will omit any button changes there were, but I can't recall if there were any or not.

http://www.staff.samods.org/iskatumesk/wc3tc.zip

edit 2 -

Ah yeah, I think those are stargraft exes after all. They're for version 1.07. Running them will probably produce an error and generate a bunch of random files. I don't think the !secwad actually does anything, so you'll probably need to either downgrade to 1.07 or rename the patch mpq with the mod one.

Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
d.arkive
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States843 Posts
October 14 2008 14:22 GMT
#19
This was a really good interview, although a lot of things he said were very touchy-feely.
"Refrigerator. Refrigerator, damn you. Refrigerator."~Spiritofthetuna, speaking in Haiku after losing
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-14 18:32:49
October 14 2008 18:28 GMT
#20
The game, the Terran campaign, just got too big. It’s just too big for it. We coulda nerfed it. We totally could of.

i generally dont care, but cmon! whoever wrote that blog needs to proofread his shit

but anyway, the interview was pretty cool. and something to take away from reading this:
Browder: We’re definitely looking at new units for each of the expansions for each of the races. When you get to the Zerg campaign you’ll get new Zerg units, new Terran units, new Protoss units. And we’ll look to see what we can do to improve Battle.net as we go, and we’ll look to see what we can improve in our replay system as we go, so it's whatever we can think of to do to make the product cool and valuable to our players.
Moonlight Shadow
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
13:00
King of the Hill #243
Liquipedia
WardiTV Team League
11:00
Playoffs Day 3
RotterdaM863
WardiTV781
ComeBackTV 698
IndyStarCraft 251
Rex135
3DClanTV 59
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 863
Hui .268
IndyStarCraft 251
LamboSC2 190
Rex 135
ProTech130
Vindicta 35
Railgan 32
Codebar 19
BRAT_OK 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 64346
Calm 4208
Bisu 2834
Mini 1098
Shuttle 1082
BeSt 886
actioN 664
EffOrt 582
Light 449
ggaemo 420
[ Show more ]
ZerO 404
Rush 344
Hyuk 327
firebathero 153
Last 94
Aegong 73
Killer 71
Nal_rA 70
Shinee 59
Barracks 57
Sea.KH 54
Movie 50
Mind 50
Sexy 50
Hyun 41
ToSsGirL 37
scan(afreeca) 32
Hm[arnc] 26
Backho 26
soO 26
Free 24
Rock 17
Terrorterran 15
IntoTheRainbow 14
GoRush 12
yabsab 11
NotJumperer 8
ivOry 8
Dota 2
Gorgc7309
qojqva2677
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
zeus1350
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor214
MindelVK9
Other Games
singsing1929
B2W.Neo1361
Liquid`RaSZi1304
FrodaN233
QueenE67
Mew2King58
ZerO(Twitch)33
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL929
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 16
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 13
• LUISG 8
• Response 4
• iHatsuTV 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade2076
• Jankos1825
Upcoming Events
BSL
3h 54m
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
IPSL
3h 54m
Artosis vs TBD
Napoleon vs TBD
Replay Cast
17h 54m
Wardi Open
18h 54m
Afreeca Starleague
18h 54m
Soma vs YSC
Sharp vs sSak
Monday Night Weeklies
1d
OSC
1d 8h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 18h
Snow vs PianO
hero vs Rain
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 18h
GSL
1d 20h
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
Escore
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
IPSL
6 days
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
6 days
Ladder Legends
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W2
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.