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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-14 10:23:48
September 14 2007 05:01 GMT
#1
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I posted this in the PL Roster thread, but I'll make a new thread anyways. Basically it's just bits of information on each team as well as the explanation as why KTF's lineup is showing some drastic changes.

WeMade FOX: Casy

Due to his absence from progaming over the months of his battle with OGN, Casy was given time to recover to his old form by starting off with the B team. Once he's back to his old skill then he will be included in the A team and the Proleague roster.


KTF: ChoJJa, GooDFriend, Ever)Z(aQua, Sync

This situation here is much worse. All four players were given a paid leave, and are no longer at the Magic Camp (KTF HQ)... The only difference is that ChoJJa and GF are allowed back depending on the situation.

There's no specific details, but basically there's some inner-team problems between the players. In a recent interview with the KTF Coach, Ra, Reach and Garimto about the new season of proleague, they all mention that their weakest attribute is their inability to work as a team. Now, THIS IS ONLY SPECULATION, but I think this is a hint that recently the team has been divided amongst the players. And seeing how ChoJJa, GF, aQua and Sync are all kicked out of the Camp (apparently GF and Chojja are currently paid on-line practice members... lower than B team), these 4 must have been the main problem. Whether the problem is amongst themselves or against others, we don't know.

In the case of ChoJJa and GF, as mentioned earlier they are allowed back once the problems or fixed. FiFo mentions that KTF tried to trade ChoJJa and GF off since they are strong players, but their name values were too high for other teams to take them.

SKT1

It was announced in FiFo a few weeks ago that both Rainbow and Kingdom were "technically B Team". I don't think it was official, but both players were training with the B Team and were following their schedule. The reasons stated were obviously due to the lack of results these two have been showing. The roster shows Kingdom but now Rainbow, which leads me to believe that Rainbow is still struggling with playing up to his skill.

Meanwhile the captain has been changed from Kingdom to Oov. However, the jobs to the team captain has been reduced significantly as to not overwork the captain, and giving him sufficient time to train himself and practice.

CJ Entus

This news was a few weeks back, but it FiFo wrote on August 14th that both XellOs and Much REQUESTED themselves to be demoted to the B Team. It is said that they follows the B team schedule (which is usually much more intense than the A team), trained with them and even did the chores given to the B team like laundry and dishwashing (which is extremely rare since both of them are much older than the others... a real humble thing to do especially in Korean culture).

But only a week later both XellOs and Much were able to pass their offline prelims at the OGN Starchallange, showing great effect. It isn't stated however if both players were brought back to A team or not. I'm assuming they are by now.
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
September 14 2007 05:06 GMT
#2
wow lots of stuff going on in KTF =(
I hope that Much and Kingdom get back on A team, I can't imagine that Kingdom would be on B
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
September 14 2007 05:06 GMT
#3
well much is slated to play in the 2v2 this week against STX, so i'd think he is back in A team.

Thanks for these notes, really interesting to hear some of the back stories that are going on.

SUMMER OF DRAMA~~
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
September 14 2007 05:10 GMT
#4
Hearing Kingdom and Xellos are training hard is music to my ears.
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OrderlyChaos
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1115 Posts
September 14 2007 05:11 GMT
#5
Thanks for the news.

Good luck to Xellos and Casy! I hope they can get back to form.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-14 05:14:13
September 14 2007 05:12 GMT
#6
Wow, XellOs and Much are very smart. I wonder what's going on at KTF. :/ Thanks for the post btw.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
September 14 2007 05:12 GMT
#7
Love to XellOs and Much.

ChoJJa and GF EW. aQua who cares. Bad to Sync have to go trough this. Sync Legend~


Poor Kingdom

I hope AnomiA plays more for SKT1

RainbOw, meh.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
September 14 2007 05:15 GMT
#8
wtf is up with KTF!??!

i'll admit that goodfriend hasn't done jack shit in ages

but chojja still won an impressive game vs nada on nemesis in proleague i remember...
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
September 14 2007 05:22 GMT
#9
Props to Xellos and Much.

GL to rest.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
September 14 2007 05:23 GMT
#10
XellOs and Much could definitely have used the extra practice, given their recent form. The chores... eh, guess if that's being part of the B team.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
September 14 2007 05:24 GMT
#11
Why would Xellos and much move down?

Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-14 05:26:04
September 14 2007 05:24 GMT
#12
the most interesting news here is definitely what\'s going on in the KTF house...

chojja/goodfriend/sync/aqua (why the fuck is aqua grouped with those three lol) have been having problems with other team members/each other?? damn... chojja/goodfriend are still pretty damn skilled and sync wasn\'t doing so bad in one of those prelims



it's pretty clear why xellos and much were moved down if you read a little into the story... they probably were unsatisfied with their performances and wanted to motivate themselves to train harder so they dropped off the A team for more intensive practice sessions and to make them hungrier

goddamn CJ are monsters
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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
September 14 2007 05:27 GMT
#13
Wow, I love progaming drama - thanks~! :D
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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
September 14 2007 05:28 GMT
#14
So Team b does more intense practice?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 14 2007 05:31 GMT
#15
CJ face fighting

(-_-)

damn monsters indeed...
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
September 14 2007 05:55 GMT
#16
CJ is crazy (-_-)

KTF internal problems.. sigh. KTF_Blaze Forever fireworks terran. He passed prelims, too. I had some hope for him.

GF and ChOJJa pretty integral members. It's sort of weird to see them go. Hope they're back soon.
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JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
September 14 2007 06:12 GMT
#17
I just want RainBOw and Casy back in the proleague. After that Rekrul gossip, I never really cared about BadFriend. Too bad for Cowboy Zerg and Sync though. Also great to see Xellos and Much really showing dedication and determination.
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HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
September 14 2007 08:09 GMT
#18
I sure hope KTF work out their problems and Rainbow + Kingdom come back. Much and Xellos's determination is extremely impressive however, that's true dedication.
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HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
September 14 2007 09:43 GMT
#19
I really want Chojja to return to form, and (I can't believe I'm saying this) even more so for GoodFriend.

I never liked either, but they added a lot of color to the progaming scene.
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minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
September 14 2007 09:51 GMT
#20
Oh ffs Kingdom is not B team material
Sorry to hear about KTF

Otherwise, nice one Live2Win
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