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OctoPuSs
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Canada5279 Posts
September 14 2007 18:41 GMT
#41
Very interresting Dan! I hope to see more of these posts from you.
Depression is just a sarcastic state of mind. Liquid`HerO Fighting!
Jonteman
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden644 Posts
September 14 2007 19:11 GMT
#42
On September 15 2007 03:39 HonestTea wrote:
Ok, first of all, I didn't make myself clear enough.

GoodFriend added color to the pro scene precisely because he was one of the best jobbers in the history of Starcraft. I mean... look at his list of memorable losses. You mentioned the Hallucination Recall on Parallel lines, the 1-hatch hydra/ling against Shark on New Cultivation, the schintillating fast tank push loss to July in the OSL finals... not to mention Death by Harassment to Rainbow, the Unusually Potent Mutalistsks of Yellow in OSL, and all the good stuff.

By being a low personality, high efficiency gamer, GoodFriend became a memorable villian (in a different way than Savior is a villian) in the pro scene.

Plus, I think it's unfair to call GoodFriend colorless. He was surely the master of the 2-fac (hmm... Iris?). He was the best at setting up contains since Gundam himself. Steve once said that GoodFriend was the player that terrified you when he was against your favorite player, and I totally agree with that.

I guess I want him back so I can see him spectacularly lose again. Plus his career is slightly underrated.

He is NOT one of the 1-fac/1-rax CC Terrans that have recently sprung up like weeds. (= GOODFRIEND IS NOT BIFROST) GoodFriend is actually an old school Terran who remembers the days before FD, before bunker rushes, before FE. So in a way, he has his own style. Consider him the Silver of Terran.

And Iris has nothing to do with anything. Iris is actually more of an aggressive Xellos in my mind.
toootally agree about GoodFriend!

Im so tired of all newcomers T___T
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32282 Posts
September 14 2007 19:38 GMT
#43
Is fun to Watch GoodFriend lose. He got pimped lots of times by lots of players. I mean his face after the Arbiter Reloaded pimp play by rA is awesome.
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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
September 14 2007 21:22 GMT
#44
On September 15 2007 03:41 OctoPuSs wrote:
Very interresting Dan! I hope to see more of these posts from you.

How dare you call me by that in public, SIMON!
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Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
September 14 2007 22:19 GMT
#45
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Lhyviathan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Australia975 Posts
September 14 2007 23:20 GMT
#46
Maaaaan, KTF had better get it together.

GoodFriend should spend the time off in an improv class. That'd address many of the concerns (lack of personality, lack of innovative play) that some of you seem to have.
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LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5758 Posts
September 15 2007 00:46 GMT
#47
Hope Xellos and Much has good results, very neat of them to volunteer to be on B team. =]
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
September 15 2007 00:49 GMT
#48
very interesting read, thanks!!
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
September 15 2007 04:15 GMT
#49
I'm more worried about Sync, I hope this will make him pumped up for the up and coming OSC.
crescendo
Profile Joined April 2007
United States140 Posts
September 15 2007 04:19 GMT
#50
Kingdom. =(

I know him and Rainbow aren't playing that well, but they're still good... right? >_>;;
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20667 Posts
September 15 2007 04:25 GMT
#51
Agreed with Wasabi on GF. His OSL consistency rivalled July's. Not only his 2-fac play TvP - his TvT was considered best in the world for some time, and his TvZ was always solid and all-around powerful.

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red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
September 15 2007 04:31 GMT
#52
On September 15 2007 04:11 Jonteman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2007 03:39 HonestTea wrote:
Ok, first of all, I didn't make myself clear enough.

GoodFriend added color to the pro scene precisely because he was one of the best jobbers in the history of Starcraft. I mean... look at his list of memorable losses. You mentioned the Hallucination Recall on Parallel lines, the 1-hatch hydra/ling against Shark on New Cultivation, the schintillating fast tank push loss to July in the OSL finals... not to mention Death by Harassment to Rainbow, the Unusually Potent Mutalistsks of Yellow in OSL, and all the good stuff.

By being a low personality, high efficiency gamer, GoodFriend became a memorable villian (in a different way than Savior is a villian) in the pro scene.

Plus, I think it's unfair to call GoodFriend colorless. He was surely the master of the 2-fac (hmm... Iris?). He was the best at setting up contains since Gundam himself. Steve once said that GoodFriend was the player that terrified you when he was against your favorite player, and I totally agree with that.

I guess I want him back so I can see him spectacularly lose again. Plus his career is slightly underrated.

He is NOT one of the 1-fac/1-rax CC Terrans that have recently sprung up like weeds. (= GOODFRIEND IS NOT BIFROST) GoodFriend is actually an old school Terran who remembers the days before FD, before bunker rushes, before FE. So in a way, he has his own style. Consider him the Silver of Terran.

And Iris has nothing to do with anything. Iris is actually more of an aggressive Xellos in my mind.
toootally agree about GoodFriend!

Im so tired of all newcomers T___T



Agree with this!

Ive always kinda liked GF if nothing else for his spectacular standardness.. Its like Midas a bit. He is just(at one time) so consistent and its scary to watch your favs go against him, but it also makes me root for him when he is up vs someone I dont like!
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1sd2sd3sd
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
660 Posts
September 15 2007 05:22 GMT
#53
such a nice post live2win, thanks
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
September 15 2007 09:08 GMT
#54
no more gf hate!!!! (T)TheMarine was also boring but nice!!!!!

i really hope true veterans will start performing well, progaming isn't the same without (P)Reach, (T)XellOs, (P)IntoTheRainBOw, (P)Kingdom, (T)Sync, (P)Zeus, (Z)Junwi, etc. its sure that bw is in a skill level higher than before and newcomers have been pushing some oldies out of the big leagues but hey, (T)BoxeR-(Z)YellOw-(P)Garimto rivalries and such were just too good
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
September 15 2007 13:37 GMT
#55
On September 15 2007 01:56 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2007 23:57 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On September 14 2007 23:18 SoMuchBetter wrote:
iris now is pretty much identical to goodfriend after ever2005


Haha, agreed, I thought I was the only one who thought that.

A standard Terran with no real flair or inspiration, just solid mechanics. I'm siding with Mani here, I've NEVER hid my hatred for GF over the years and don't intend to now. He simply doesn't deserve to be playing in the upper echelon of progaming and he never has. GoodRiddence to GoodFriend.

Mean, yes, but in the business of entertainment and sport there is no room for someone with zero personality, and completely mediocre skills.

iris is standard and has no flair???

=(


Alright, alright, he's gotten much better. I suppose I should have said my early opinion of Iris was a copy of GF.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 15 2007 15:42 GMT
#56
I share HB's sentiments, especially after BlizzCon. IriS is definitely showing more potential that we've seen from GF, not to mention he doesn't seem as mundane. He definitely has the (-_-) face but at least he has something "exciting" to say during his interviews than GF too.
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
September 15 2007 16:12 GMT
#57
Very cool info. Thanks L2W!

I'm glad you linked this in your news post, because I missed it!
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sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-15 16:16:48
September 15 2007 16:16 GMT
#58
I'm worried about Kingdom and Rainbow, they better pull their act together, because without them there just won't be any amusing tossplayers except reach.
1000 at least.
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
September 16 2007 03:15 GMT
#59
I love how XellOs took a step down, swallowing his pride like that. I think being one of the hyeongs on the team and stepping down like that sets a good example and atmosphere for the CJ Entus team. s2s2s2 XellOs
Do your best, God will do the rest.
.dragoon
Profile Joined May 2007
United States749 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-16 03:53:37
September 16 2007 03:49 GMT
#60
How can Sync be a problem? Dude doesn't even talk (that much).
If you can, then do. If I can, I will.
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