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[W] Newbie LVIII - Disney Princess Mafia
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
I have awoken from my much needed slumber and now we are going to hop to it, there's no time to flounder about! You all heard the fairy godmothers! First on the agenda is... Complimenting the magnificent mod of this wonderful event. - The flavour text was exquisite. Good job! Now, to more pressing matters. Since when did you do flavour meatpie? Don't get me wrong it's refreshing, but is it towny? I don't recall you doing it last game, although you were getting beaten quite hard (not by abuse) by almost everyone so I guess all you really had time for was defending yourself. Needless to say, I have my eyes on you. lilwade, lilwade, wherefore art thou, lilwade?! On the mountain tonight? How can I follow you if there's no footprint to be seen? Superbia! My name isn't evil at all. Hell is a Swedish surname and does not mean the counterpart of "heaven". Just fyi. I do however agree that abuse is bang out of order! We'll just have to wait and see what he's got to hit us with. May I also suggest that we all give reads in Bang, Marry, Kill format? It's something I started on DailyMafia and will continue here, whether you like it or not ;D | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
It's hard to say exactly what his towngame is, for me, because all that happened was that he was being harassed and had to defend himself. He wasn't very active during the day and I guess a lot of people wanted to go for the "safelynch" so to speak. Sadly enough he was one of the two wagons we had, and he sadly ended up being town. He was put in a very awkward situation with only a couple of hours to try to sway everyone elses votes. He tried to bring up some scummy things other people had done during the day, as his defense, which ended up with him looking as though he was defending both the people on the chopping block. I don't necessarily think, now afterwards, that it was truly intended but it is what it is. The other guy was lynched and in the night I went through the entire topic again and did some major calculations(1+1=2) and realized that way too many were going on him. He was probably town. I voiced my opinion and was killed during that first night. First mafia game, first to get killed by mafia.. Rudeness! I guess I have myself to blame for being too towny. Everyone read me town that game and I had 2 people who was ride or die with me. I'll let you know though, if anything out of the ordinary, based on what I've seen, shows up in meatpickle's posts. Just like I did with his sudden interest in flavouring it up. meatproud: Flattery will get you a long way, but not far enough to be my beloved spouse. You will have to work much harder than that. | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
 Expect more of that btw. The bang marry kill works a bit like this: Bang - someone you think is town or leaning town, so you'd be willing to engage in a 1 time goodtime, giggity, and then they will have to keep prove themselves if they want to keep getting it. Marry - This is your number 1. Your top town, the one you are willing to go to the end with. Ofc, like irl you can apply for a divorce should a skeleton come out of the closet. But this is to signify who you want to align yourself with during the game. Kill - This one should be obv. Everyone who isn't a bang or a marry ends up in this category. If you want to can make a kill list of who should be dead first, and the others will have to lick your dirty boots to get back on your good side. Hopefully that will make people see now how I do it, and feel free to do it yourselves if you want to. Also, if you find someone you don't want to hookup with and also don't really feel like killing, I guess you could add a null area for those that do nothing for you. But try to not make that one too large, because it's really difficult for us other townies to discern those kinds of reads. Gobblegobblegobble, welcome my fair maiden. God will not save us here, we will have to take matters into our own hands and solve this puzzle the best way we know how! Kill people and search their pockets for wicked dust that have turned those ugly faces into a beautiful facade. | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
It wasn't awful at all! I didn't read it, I sang it out loud! Maybe a better word at the end would have been mob? Sort of similar to mafia and only one syllable, so it rolls better off the tongue. Or maybe even better!!! SCUM! To defeat the scuuuum!! | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
Singing is awesome! We need to sing with all the voices of the mountains! My thoughts so far aren't many, but here we go. 1. I hope for more activity! This is painfully slow. But I'm assuming it's odd hours at all places of the world so just hold on nor necessarily super tight, because it's not needed right now, and enjoy the sloooooooooooooooow snail ride to town victory! 2. meatpatty is currently being different than what you and I are used to, lilwade, based on the last game. So I'm keeping my eyes on him. 3. Barakos crashes in and slams a good one on superbia. However, I didn't really like it. I like that he's aware of what happened in the last newbie game, because it shows some sort of interest and effort in wanting enough pre-info to be able to read the game correctly. Which probably also mean he is willing to filter dive us all from previous games, and that can only be a good thing. Now to the fact that I didn't really like what he said. Superbia was first to post and the startups are always trolly and odd. He made a similar joke as someone else did last newbie game with me and DC being scummy because of our names. Low and behold, it's not something you can read anyone from. Therefore, I don't think that Barakos can nor should read too much in to #1 post made in day 1, nor should he focus on peoples forum handles being scummy. That said, I don't think he is, or at least hope he isn't. Time will tell! 4. Some of you have made me sing already which is lovely.. But let's not make this into a claim-fest because it may out good roles and help hide scum. 5. I also appreciated that Superbia came out and asked what a typical town read on meatpillow would be. I would suggest he filter dives meatpole's previous games to get a better knowledge himself. | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
On August 26 2014 15:35 meatpudding wrote: Maybe I'm too much of a newbie, but isn't this the opposite of true? More activity means we can be assured to hunt down the wicked ones. I think town have the chance to win either way, if we play it out correctly. If it's a slow ride, then nothing much to do about it. We can't force people to talk.. Unless we treat them like we treated you, meatpizza, and look where that got us... I had you night 1 though.. I had you meatpimp! I tried to call the hounds off, but noone listened to me, even though I was killed. You are correct though that it is easier to scum hunt if people are being active, because you have more to go from. The same way it's also easier to read people town that way. Let's just hope the activity picks up. Who knows, we might be riding Turbo soon enough! (Sorry Disney for bringing in Pixar references!) | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
On August 26 2014 16:19 abuse wrote: Hello people~ I see people have taken note of my name already - which is lovely. Seems like timezones are quite an issue in this game, as the voting was very close and in the end the less fortunate time for me was voted in, and due to this the phases change at *drumroll* 4 am for me. Which is awesome + Show Spoiler + not really Hopefully the reason that a few people have not posted yet is the timezones, as it sucks quite hard if people have to be replaced early on due to inactivity.. I have read quite a lot through the previous newbie game, though not the first days (when Jenny was still alive). I might have to look more into it later. I also want to note that I am usually quite vocal in my games and like to push people who I find suspicious. (Push hard if the regular pushes have no effect on getting a reaction from the person in question.) I want to start this all off with a few simple questions for you guys - What alignment did you get?(town or scum) What were you hoping to get? What do you think of the Lynch all Lurkers and Lynch all Liars policies? Hello darling, I see you've come in and hit us with some questions. I will approach those soon enough, but let me start with punching you back. You said you've read quite a lot of the previous newbie game, but not the first days. Was it someone in particular you were trying to get info on by doing that? Because only 3 of the people from the previous game is currently playing and if you say "Not the first days" dayS, means more than 1 right? I died n1, and meatpicture was lynched d2, so the only one you could possibly have seen that might be benificial for this game is lilwade. I'd defo urge you to read day 1 and 2 as well, otherwise your dive into the previous game is almost completely fruitless. Just fyi. Now to your questions, although I can see why someone would make such a play, I'm not a huge fan of it. Too easy for scum to hide. But I'll indulge you. Else you might just hit me again. I am top town, yay me! Couldn't care less if I was mafia or town. I like the game in general and don't care which side of the spectrum I am on. The policies all depend on who fall under those categories. I prefer to try to read people based on what they have given, rather than come out of the bat and just get rid of the stragglers. Some people are bound to do less than others, and it's not necessarily indicative of either a mafia or town alignment. Killing all liars? You know it's a game of lies a deceit right? And there might be moments where town will have to go out of their way and say things that may not be 100% truthful, in order to save their asses from people being wrong, yeah? Or mafia pushing on them and getting town on the wrong path. I hope that gave you the insight you were looking for. Again, just to remind you, read day 1 and 2 in the last newbie game. | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
On August 26 2014 16:42 MihZaaa wrote: Hello fellow princesses. Let us cleanse the world of wickedness shall we? So there's been some activity while I was asleep and even though I mostly got some town vibes I'm a little weary about you JennyHell. You're being active a lot and that's great for reads but when you said that you were killed night 1 for being to towny I immediately thought why would he put himself out there so much once more. Wouldn't he be a little more lurky at least day one? (not necessarily completely silent but it's undeniable that the attention is on you right now). Maybe it's just my inexperience with forum mafia speaking but I'm not sure how comfortable I am with the disproportion between how much you've spoken and how many reads you gave. Three if you count the Superbia appreciation but I don't think I see that as a solid read. You did give mostly your scum reads which I think as mafia you would have tried to get people to like you instead of pressing them so that's why you're still in my princess circle.I do want to hear from you day 2 because I feel like if you are town you are being a valuable princess to have and if you are mafia it's good that you talk a lot so we can see the wickedness inside your heart. As think as the day goes on we can find better lynches. I did like Superbia's inquiry in regards to meatpalm's playstyle and by extension I didn't like Barakos attacking him. It's still pretty early in the day and my reads right now haven't got much heft to them. I'm looking forward to see more people talk though. Hi MihZaaaa, we shall indeed cleanse the world! Whether I am mafia or town I would still play the exact same way, or at least try to, so that in the off chance I would get mafia in a game in the future it'll be easier for me to seem towny. I like that you are being wary of me. I am not confirmed to anyone but myself, but that said, I am a good ally to have in this world where wickedness have taken over. We need to banish it once and for all and save all of disneytopia! | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
How many reads do you honestly think is appropriate this early in to the game? How many do you think you could possibly give? | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
On August 26 2014 17:02 meatpudding wrote: Same goes for Jenny's MBK list, although I think it's way too early for that. At this point I think anyone could be a wicked one, and I'm not about to start trusting a single person until the day goes on. I have yet to give a MBK list, because it's way too early. I merely explained what it all meant and suggested that we should all use that format. Don't see what's scummy about that.. Unless you are a dryball that doesn't appreciate bringing fun in to things, which you yourself expressed earlier that you thought it was obligatory that we brought some flavour into this disney game. | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
Let's have a lil chat, shall we? I'll start with responding to this: On August 27 2014 01:39 Superbia wrote: Also I want Jenny to explain herself on the MeatPush (very top of post). Ok, so.. Since there are some of you that have expressed concern for my "push" on meatpope, I have now gone back to the old thread to give you an example of what kind of post I'm used to seeing from meatpoke. Example 1.) This is his first post in the thread. The game started July 29 2014 15:20. and his absolutely first post came in July 30 2014 11:09. On July 30 2014 19:09 meatpudding wrote: Hey guys. Anyone still here? I'm going to look through the thread. As you can see, no flavour, no nothing. Not at all the same kind of opening as he did this game. Which is why it caught my eyes. And I wanted to let everyone know that he doesn't seem the same as last game.. Why? Ask him, not me. But here's my 2 cents. The reason might have been because he entered so late in the game so we've already come to the serious part of day 1, so there was no opportunity for him to add flavour. Although, if you ask me, I'd probably add flavour either way. People have been known to call me "Flavour Flav" after all. Or, he might just be scum, wanting to hide among the flavour of everyone else. The fact that it was different than his last game still stands. It was different, so I'm going to keep my eyes on meatproduce. It's really not that difficult to understand, is it? | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
On August 26 2014 22:29 Barakos wrote: On Jenny: I think Jenny is playing very similar to the last Newbie-Mafia and trys to get the thread going / is very vocal, so seeing that she was town the last game, I read her as town for now, although i am not very sure, since she stated herself: Still most towny person at the moment. It's healthy to be suspicious of everyone. One should never be treated as a "confirmed" unless they actually are 100% confirmed. At least that's my motto and I try to make everyone adapt the same kind of mindset. Besides, who wouldn't try to appear town as mafia, amirite? It's in the basics of the game really, otherwise they may as well just concede and be done with. | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
Last game was my first forum mafia game, and it kind of came as a shock to me how seriously I took it, how invested I was in it and when I was dead I was still following it closely, trying to solve the puzzle, almost ripping my hair out of my head from the frustration of not being able to voice my opinion and help the town on their way to victory. Therefore, according to me, I was too towny. Too many people read me as town and mafia decided to get rid of me. Yes, I agree that taking a rolebullet as VT is a good thing, but I just really really really wanted to play! I hope that explains it a bit better. | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
On August 27 2014 01:37 Superbia wrote: Alright, I'm ready to make a small town circle and mafia circle already! I would like to welcome the follow people to my town circle: - JennyHell - Barakos I would like to lynch the following people: - Breshke - abuse (borderline) I saw you gave +1 -1 etc to people in your post and decided to check if they came to the same conclusion as you did here at the end with your mafia and town circle. The town seem fine, but on the lynch you skipped mentioning MihZaaaa that had a worse score than abuse. Care to explain that? | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:44 Superbia wrote: Jenny, since you're around, what's your opinion on lilwade. From what I gather you have played with him before. He has not done anything yet. Is this normal? Also, what other people have you played with before? People from the last game that is currently playing this game is lilwade, meatpackage and myself. Last game I read lilwade really scummy because he was just like this. He popped in with a single liner every now and then but nothing really to read him from. I was wrong on him. He turned out to be very valuable for town later on in the game. But his activity was never really high. | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
On August 27 2014 02:43 Superbia wrote: That's fine, but keep in mind that the goal is for town to win. If dying means that town wins, then you die. But.. But... There's so many other succulent townies the evil wolfies can chew. It's like that kids story about the 3 goats. Each and every one of them saying to the troll "oh no no, don't eat me, eat the one after me. He's much bigger and tastier than me." I guess I'm just as selfish as those goats. | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
On August 27 2014 03:06 Barakos wrote: Towncircle: JennyHell (still in there, although she has been very quiet after her strong start, this judgement might also be a bit influenced by her strong towngame in the earlier mafia) I do come off rather strong at times, I agree. It's my new thing I discovered since I started playing forum mafia. How would you say you usually come off when playing forum mafia? Just curious. As further notes, I have a really REALLY messed up sleeping schedule. I have things to do in the days, like applying for jobs, going to interviews and things. And then I sleep rather early, so I can go up and play games and socialize with americans in the early morning for me. Last night for example I went to bed at 21:00 my time, woke up at 3:30 and enjoyed my time with americans until around 12:00 where I got ready to go for an interview, came back took a nap, woke up not long ago again and here we are, in the kitchen, looking into the fridge to figure out what to have for dinner before I go to sleep again at around 21-22. I have an important role as a banshee to perform in the morning together with my fellow d&d players. | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
On August 27 2014 03:34 Barakos wrote: I think I already mentioned it in my first larger post but here again and in a bit more detail: This is my first game of forum mafia and I haven't played mafia in a good amount of years. We had a quite big group of live-mafia-players back in the day, when I still went to school but as it goes with everything, if you go to school in a smaller city... people spread out to go to university / do their required military service or get jobs in other cities, so we stopped playing. Few weeks ago i stumbled over the Mafia-section of this forum, got interested, lurked in some games and got more interested, and now - her i am. Fair enough, welcome back to the world of mafia games! | ||
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JennyHell
Sweden259 Posts
On August 27 2014 05:00 lilwade wrote: With classes starting getting anywhere is a huge pain but, Here is my perspective from the last 12 hours. 1) Jenny you have started strong again but apart from last game you have come off way stronger this time around, maybe overcompensating to try to appear like you start every game the same, I am not sure. you are probably on my bang list for now, you know how I hate to commit to marry. What are your thoughts on MihZaaa? 2) Superbia despite your post that was longer than my last college paper I feel you are doing your best to seek out scum and test the waters and I think no mafia would have gone to lengths to provide what you did albeit in a poorly formatted manner. For the most part I think your genuine, but I still have my doubts on the quality of your reads. 3) Barakos I think you started of pretty strong but have moved down a little bit with some filler posts. Who do you think we should persue? Did you actually read superbia's post? do you think it could have been scum motivated? What in it makes you think it is an abomination or were you merely calling it that because of how long it was? What are your thoughts on abuse? 4) MihZaaa I agree the time zone difference is a bit of a pain but i will try to post between classes and all through out the night and morning to make it easier for you and any others who arent in the US. What are you thought on jenny and superbia because those are my strongest reads atm. Do you think jenny is overcompensating? I just refreshed and saw your post, I agree for the most part that superbia's long post was filled with nonsense but do you think it is town motivated? 5) abuse I think that every mafia game we have atleast 1 person (you), to start of the game with classic reaction questions and I like it tbh, Myself you can call me Town Hero for I will seek out scum so none of our beautiful princesses have to die. I was hoping to get a character that I could add a lot of flavor with but I was unfamiliar with how to go about it. As for my thoughts on you I think you are spending a little to much time defending rather than advancing and I do not like that. What can you bring to the table that will get the game on the right track aside from your first post. Anyone I didnt mention was not worth mentioning and you need to be worried about that because I will be waiting to hear from you. Okay, last post before I head to bed! You want me to address my thoughts on MihZaa. See, he's currently the one I'm the most on the fence with, aka don't know where I should put him. I'll show you a few pointers of why I don't fully see him as town, and you'll see that even though he's not towny enough for me, yet, it's all rather minor so not a full mafia read either. But you know what they say.. Many small brooks make a strong river. It started with this: You're being active a lot and that's great for reads but when you said that you were killed night 1 for being to towny I immediately thought why would he put himself out there so much once more. Wouldn't he be a little more lurky at least day one? (not necessarily completely silent but it's undeniable that the attention is on you right now). Why would I change anything I'm doing? If I am town, great, because then people see I am town. If I am mafia I would want to hide that I am, right? So in both occasions nothing would change my general demeanor and the way I put myself out there. The very same post he also brought up something about a disproportion in my posts. I took it as though he thought my posts were lengthy but didn't give many reads. Which I thought was weird, why would I be able to give a lot of reads so early in to the game? I asked him about it, and he corrected me, saying he meant that he thought I had too much to give. But he also avoided my questions to him. On August 26 2014 17:02 JennyHell wrote: Also, MihZaa, you said you didn't like the disproportion of my amount of posts and how few reads I've given. How many reads do you honestly think is appropriate this early in to the game? How many do you think you could possibly give? I don't read too much in to these two situations, since they're minor things that just made me perk my ears a little. It continued with his reaction to abuse's questions. I agree that there are better questions one could have asked. But I saw nothing wrong in asking them. It didn't feel like it was necessarily indicative of any alignment. It still feels a bit like focusing on others so you can throw scum on townies that maybe aren't being seen as town yet rather than a genuine gathering of information with the purpose of finding mafia. Then he, in the same post, said this: I like a lot that Barakos logged in from work to pitch in. I think it's less likely that mafia would bother to do that especially when nobody is being put on the spot right now which is when you will see mafia push on them more and be active. I think it's quite the opposite. Mafia wants to not appear scum and if he can get some easy town points by making a post from work while he's on his break or similar, I don't see why mafia wouldn't. This could just be a difference in opinions though, so it doesn't really make me think either way of MihZaaaa. He then had his lengthy post where he seemed extremely defensive, but he brought up some good parts as well that I can agree on. But the general feel I got from his lengthy post was that all the commented on was things that was about him, concerned him or was good for his play, which to me felt scummy. The sexism thing was obviously a joke, and he shouldn't feel the least bad about it. (Just wanted to add, in case he was actually worried.) And then he commented on a post I made about the +1-1 and Mihzaa not being in the final reads of that post. On August 27 2014 04:25 MihZaaa wrote: Paying close attention to potential slip-ups is really towny I feel. Barakos did the same thing and Superbia did it to me and this is pretty much my town circle right now. So he says his town circle is Barakos, Superbia, Himself and I'm assuming me, since he was commenting on my post about the math mistake at the end there. Following it up with a response to lilwade asking about me and superbia, and this is very minor but he, instead of saying what he said in previous post that we are in his towncircle, he decides to phrase it as a "no lynch zone", which felt a bit off. So it's not so much what he said, more how he said it. On August 27 2014 05:51 MihZaaa wrote: Both are in the no lynch zone for me. In regards to jenny overcompensating I'm not sure and I won't give it much thought day 1 because, mafia or town, I'm ok with people talking. Superbia's post I read as town motivated but it's his switch on his read that made me see him as town. All in all, I feel very confused and flip floppy about my read on MihZaaaa, which is why I'm on the fence about him. At one moment he makes me feel like he's trying to push town agenda, the other moment he phrases something oddly and it feels scummy. I'll filter dive him tomorrow again, after a good nights rest, to see if maybe I just needed to sleep on it to get a general idea of where he is. | ||
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