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Hi guys im new to tl mafia, this is my first game
I sheep kush because he is kush
##Vote:MysteryMeat1
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On August 11 2014 13:25 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2014 13:09 HaruRH wrote:
Hi guys im new to tl mafia, this is my first game
I sheep kush because he is kush
##Vote:MysteryMeat1 Do you actually have an opinion on the case on MM?
No I don't
Kush is love
Kush is life
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On August 11 2014 21:29 Onegu wrote:Oh man so happy to play with Rayn and Koshi again. @kush. It's hot and still under martial law, but last week they took the machine gun carrying soldiers off of my street corner so at least that is something. Show nested quote +On August 11 2014 17:49 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Hopefully other people in the game will chine in. My only concern is that if VE and i are both town it gives mafia an easy d1 mislynch. Did anyone else find it weird that VE only voted on my after Kush? Not to much really. Haru vote is much odder in my book, this isn't his first game like he said, and a straight up sheep this early in the game gets my toes in a curl when he says he is new. Anyway I'll be back in a bit after my kids sleep. Also I bought a new notebook for this game. Then my 2 .5 year old found it and decided to draw pictures in it. Brb in a few.
Cant take sarcasm? /sarcasm
But yea, if kush says I look scummy, he failed me real hard. I guess glowingbear can do me justice. WHERE ART THOU BEAR THAT EMITS LIGHT COMETH FORTH
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Oh no my bear went to quit this game for the newbie game. Now I am left defenseless against the onslaught of treachery. Koshi, i command you to save me
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On August 12 2014 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 17:07 kushm4sta wrote:
yeah i guess haru. Ive been going through filters and I can't find people I want to vote.
##haru Haru's just joking around and not playing. As he does as scum. As town yes - he jokes - but he also plays. mafia.
I'm back for 5 minutes and I hope someone realised this is a bull reason to vote for me.
Anyway, I'll be officially back in 1 hour +
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Alright I'm backa. I have made a nice little chart of everything that have happened so far (who called who scum/town etc) and I have noticed some weird stuff:
Out of the many interactions over here, 3 stood out for me:
1)MM1 called 1v1 town, but 1v1 called MM1 scum. It is almost like they chose to talk about each other just so that they have content about one another.
2)batsnacks is universally scumread by everyone (sn0,rayn,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.
3)Damndred/mages interaction feels out of place and feels forced. It almost feels like they are staging a show just to show that they interacted with one another. They used meta from unquotable/uncheckable sources that obviously shows that they are staging some sort of performance.
As such, I have my list out:
Top town: Haru
Leaning town: MM1 (he always die early and is always the lynch target)
Fence: kush, mages, rayn, onegu, kotc, damndred, sn0,bat (I still need time to evaluate their game play).
Leaning scum: koshi (he has been the most wishy washy player till now)
VE (his reads are not consistent)
1v1 (his reads feels forced and rehearsed, almost a perfect copy each time he gives his list)
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On August 12 2014 19:46 Koshi wrote:
You must be kidding me.
from my preliminary read with what I wrote down in my notebook that I copied off onegu's idea because I thought that was a good idea.
I circled (koshi townreads sn0, changes to wanting to lynch him for lying, then changes to liking him) in my notebook.
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On August 12 2014 19:52 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 19:49 HaruRH wrote:On August 12 2014 19:46 Koshi wrote:
You must be kidding me. from my preliminary read with what I wrote down in my notebook that I copied off onegu's idea because I thought that was a good idea. I circled (koshi townreads sn0, changes to wanting to lynch him for lying, then changes to liking him) in my notebook. I wanted to lynch 1v1 for lying. I always townread Snow through the game. Show nested quote +1)MM1 called 1v1 town, but 1v1 called MM1 scum. It is almost like they chose to talk about each other just so that they have content about one another.
2)batsnacks is universally scumread by everyone (sn0,rayn,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.
3)Damndred/mages interaction feels out of place and feels forced. It almost feels like they are staging a show just to show that they interacted with one another. They used meta from unquotable/uncheckable sources that obviously shows that they are staging some sort of performance. Why is there nothing from this in your reads? You call 1v1, VE and Koshi scum but in the quote above you are insinuating that some couples are scum together.
Where is the insinuating part? I am just highlighting the possibility of such things happening.
sorry my bad, I wrote that part down wrongly. I thought I saw you voting sn0. :/
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On August 12 2014 19:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Haru are tou around in 2hours? I can't decide if your posr is incredibly scummy or the other way around.....
Yes I am around for the next few hours (2+).
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The problem don't really lie with you, mages. It is more with damndred.
On August 12 2014 08:36 Damdred wrote:
Jokes on you buddy my filter is already bigger than on day one than it was on day 6.
Your foolish post makes you seem happy to shift blame to someone else. Your third pick for scummy makes me think you will try to make me omgus but your scum.
On August 12 2014 08:59 Damdred wrote:
Believe me MM for great judgment come with me mages is scum.
Its a great day one we found one look at it. He claims he hates lynches on day one and then randomly puts his vot on cat.
Look at his reads he was so sure i was acting scummy but wouldn't committ to voteing me wanted someone else chase his meta read on me so he could br safe.
He called out kush for nonreasons and tried to shift more blame on VE when i mentioned dodging questions.
##vote mages
follow me trust me
someone mentioned that damdred was a cool and calm player. This doesn't really add up. This feels forced.
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On August 12 2014 19:44 HaruRH wrote:
3)Damndred/mages interaction feels out of place and feels forced. It almost feels like they are staging a show just to show that they interacted with one another. They used meta from unquotable/uncheckable sources that obviously shows that they are staging some sort of performance.
On August 12 2014 09:43 Damdred wrote:
Maybe its cause i have so much experience with how he plays. I feel he is scum for the reasons i posted ill give him time to post back though
On August 12 2014 07:46 Mages wrote:
Haha, 1v1, Glad I could do that : )
Three most, I stick by Cats & onegu as my original two as i had said i was on the fence with them and went with cats bc i have little more to go on, if i had to take a third, i guess Damdred too because i've modded games before for him on another site and his playstyle is currently very much of that which he adheres to when he's evil in my games. He's talking a lot, on my board he's far less talkative, and he hasn't really made any hard "This is what i want and this is why" accusations. I know you guys can't know that as you haven't seen that side of him, but that's what I believe. Course, this is only day one and i daren't accuse Damdred yet too because he could be good, just trying something new on this board. I know from him that last game he was the last mafia after like 2 others ragequit or something, and he was able to win - is his style in this one similar to that of the last one or different? if it's different from I'd wager that it MORE likely that he's on the side of good and that would deter my doubt in him.
But there they are, those are the three I'll stick by.
this is what I am basing it on.
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On August 12 2014 20:07 Koshi wrote:
Yeah, I noticed it as well. But I don't think it is scummy. It is somewhat strange but they know each other so we might be missing parts.
HaruRH about batsnacks. What did you mean with "nobody townreads him" is that good or bad or?
FROM MY (LIMITED) EXPERIENCE,
He is town for being universally scumread. it is a bit too early for mafia to bus bat when he have done nothing yet and it feels stupid to just bus him now.
So, if he flips scum (vigi shot maybe?), then we can safely assume there are scum in the pool of people who haven't give bat a read yet.
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On August 12 2014 20:34 Damdred wrote:
Well morning all, a few thoughts to open up the day
1) Right now i'm leaning towards town on batsnacks because of his randomness in the way he plays though I do not like where his vote is right now as I think it's on a towny I don't think hes scum for that and the time I did play scum with him he went a bit more crazy hes closer to how he was in noir or close to it i'd like to see more out of him but I doubt we will before deadline today.
2) Why am I getting flack for being more aggressive than I have in the past? Kinda a bit of bull on that one.
3) Since haru has came back to the thread he feels a bit weirder to me
How about telling me why I feel weird rather than throwing a blanket read. I can do the same too.
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On August 12 2014 21:58 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 19:44 HaruRH wrote:
2)batsnacks is universally scumread by everyone (sn0,rayn,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.
Harurh, Show me where rayn reads batsnacks as scum.
You guys need to show me where I wrote down mistakes, I am literally copying everything in my notebook, which is what I written down after going through the thread once.
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On August 12 2014 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On August 12 2014 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sn0_Man could you also explain to me why you just said "it's more Koshi who is taking things out of proportion" but all of your post suggests otherwise. You don't like my points but Koshi has some sensible ideas.
How does that make sense? Koshi's push on the "avatar" bit see: On August 12 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 00:37 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 00:33 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 00:29 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am putting Mages to townpile aswell. By the way, it'd be more helpful if you also explained your reads while sharing them rather than just saying "X is town, Y is scum". I agree with rayn. It would be helpful if you could tell us why Mages his play is most likely coming from town. Why should rayn tell you the answers to the game? rayn is testing others if they pay attention. Why are you not paying attention? Spoilered because I am bored talking about this: + Show Spoiler +On August 12 2014 00:28 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 00:02 Damdred wrote:On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:2) MysteryMeat1 Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now. ##Vote MysteryMeat1On August 11 2014 11:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
His first post was all "Man I'm so bad and I can already tell you that you won't want to listen to anything I say"
Obviously I'm paraphrasing. But that's the feels I got reading his post. It made my ass twitch. Ok I think I might of played to many IML games and i'm putting to much on where votes are right now. However if you don't think its scummy why even put it in your post that lead up to a vote? Dunno, I had just finished writing about Mages and moved on to MM1. Both had downplayed themselves, but MM1 also talked about Avatar, so I guess I just put it in there. Yeah you are scum. There is no reason for you to bring up again that somebody talked about Avatar in the 5 first posts of the game when everybody at that time was talking about Avatar. It is completely null that when there are people talking about watching Avatar, there is another guy who chimes in and says "I also watch avatar". There is no fucking way that you can add him talking about Avatar to something else and come to the conclusion he is scum or scummy. It's you who isn't paying attention, since I explained my town lean on Mages in one of my first posts + I've repeatedly said that the sentence about Avatar wasn't a reason for him being scum. Stop lieing. Here are your reads: On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
So, here are my brief observations from the early posts (any topics I took the effort to write down):
1) Mages
Started the game by downplaying himself, which might be new/nervous town or scummy avoiding of attention. Continued to express his thoughts after that, which makes me lean town, especially since he wasn't just following the flow of the thread but rather tried to bring his own thoughts to the discussion. Especially as a new scum player it would be somewhat hard/risky to post like that.
2) MysteryMeat1
Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.
The bolded is for both people the same. They downplay their game. BUT, the green stuff makes Mages a townread for you. While the red stuff made MM1 a scumread for you. Clearly Avatar talk made MM1 more scummy to you. If you say that it never did, I am just calling scumhunting for this day and make sure you are lynched. Maybe you were an overzealous townie, maybe, but don't tell me you weren't scumreading MM1 partly because he talked about Avatar. Because you did. To me, its obvious here that what made MM1 1v1's vote candidate was his response to VE's pressure and the Kush/VE votes indicating that others agreed with him. Which really isn't a town mindset but is also not what Koshi was trying to push on him. Which is why I felt like you two weren't necessarily pushing on the right axis and it made it hard to read. Hence, On August 12 2014 00:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't read that post the same way koshi I do think attacking same easy targets other people attack is scummy. I mean, townies do that aswell. But the whole construction of the post does not say anything - all it does is it gives onevone all sorts of outs to back off from his reads later on.
I had a feeling you were referring to batsnacks when you said this btw, on how he is just repeatedly attacking kotc when everyone have already pointed that shit out.
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officially updating what I wrote in my notebook after some errors have been spotted in my attempt to pen down everything; this is my first time trying this shit to supplement my shitty d1. Don't bother scumreading me for this post because this just represents what I wrote and found interesting, plus my after thoughts. You don't need to agree with them.
Fun fact for rayn:
On August 12 2014 03:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
So okay. These are the people I'd lynch into today:
MysteryMeat1, Onegu, KingofCats, batsnacks
I feel like the case on MM is the strongest, so that's where my vote is. But I feel like I'm going to have to move it because people are squeamish about lynching him based on his history of being D1 mislynched, so I'm going to look into alternatives.
I accidentally thought you wrote this and wrote down that you felt bat was scummy. MY BAD.
1)MM1 called 1v1 town, but 1v1 called MM1 scum. It is almost like they chose to talk about each other just so that they have content about one another.
2)batsnacks is scumread by most (sn0,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.
3)Damndred/mages interaction feels out of place and feels forced. It almost feels like they are staging a show just to show that they interacted with one another. They used meta from unquotable/uncheckable sources that obviously shows that they are staging some sort of performance.
As such, I have my list out:
Top town: Haru
Leaning town: MM1 (he always die early and is always the lynch target)
Fence: kush, mages, rayn, onegu, kotc, damndred, sn0,bat, koshi (I still need time to evaluate their game play).
Leaning scum:
VE (his reads are not consistent)
1v1 (his reads feels forced and rehearsed, almost a perfect copy each time he gives his list)
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On August 12 2014 22:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Here: Show nested quote +1)MM1 called 1v1 town, but 1v1 called MM1 scum. It is almost like they chose to talk about each other just so that they have content about one another.
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Leaning town: MM1 (he always die early and is always the lynch target)
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1v1 (his reads feels forced and rehearsed, almost a perfect copy each time he gives his list) This does not make any sense because in the first part you basically say you think those guys could be scum together. Then you townread the other one and scumread the other. Which makes no sense at all that you wrote all those paragraphs.
Neither do you make sense, since I already mentioned they were what I wrote down, not reads.
Show nested quote +2)batsnacks is universally scumread by everyone (sn0,rayn,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far. I had not talked about a single thing about bats when you made your post. Or if i have show me where i say i think he is mafia? I have had a read on 5 people - none of them were bats. At that point I had said kush is town, Koshi is town, Onegu is town, Haru and 1v1 are scum.
I think I pointed that out in my post above ^
Leaning scum: koshi (he has been the most wishy washy player till now) Explain how because i don't see how either of these are anywhere near the truth. You can't just say something and not explain it. Sooner or later you have to, and now is later because this - to me - makes no sense at all.
This is based on the fact that I thought koshi voted sn0, but it was actually wrong.
Show nested quote +I circled (koshi townreads sn0, changes to wanting to lynch him for lying, then changes to liking him) in my notebook. Wrong (i know you already said you misread but still wrong). That's pretty much everything you have said in this game except for your null reads.....
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misread so it is definitely wrong, thanks for pointing out that the wrong is a wrong
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On August 12 2014 22:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 22:35 HaruRH wrote:On August 12 2014 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On August 12 2014 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sn0_Man could you also explain to me why you just said "it's more Koshi who is taking things out of proportion" but all of your post suggests otherwise. You don't like my points but Koshi has some sensible ideas.
How does that make sense? Koshi's push on the "avatar" bit see: On August 12 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 00:37 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 00:33 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 00:29 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am putting Mages to townpile aswell. By the way, it'd be more helpful if you also explained your reads while sharing them rather than just saying "X is town, Y is scum". I agree with rayn. It would be helpful if you could tell us why Mages his play is most likely coming from town. Why should rayn tell you the answers to the game? rayn is testing others if they pay attention. Why are you not paying attention? Spoilered because I am bored talking about this: + Show Spoiler +On August 12 2014 00:28 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 00:02 Damdred wrote:On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:2) MysteryMeat1 Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now. ##Vote MysteryMeat1On August 11 2014 11:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
His first post was all "Man I'm so bad and I can already tell you that you won't want to listen to anything I say"
Obviously I'm paraphrasing. But that's the feels I got reading his post. It made my ass twitch. Ok I think I might of played to many IML games and i'm putting to much on where votes are right now. However if you don't think its scummy why even put it in your post that lead up to a vote? Dunno, I had just finished writing about Mages and moved on to MM1. Both had downplayed themselves, but MM1 also talked about Avatar, so I guess I just put it in there. Yeah you are scum. There is no reason for you to bring up again that somebody talked about Avatar in the 5 first posts of the game when everybody at that time was talking about Avatar. It is completely null that when there are people talking about watching Avatar, there is another guy who chimes in and says "I also watch avatar". There is no fucking way that you can add him talking about Avatar to something else and come to the conclusion he is scum or scummy. It's you who isn't paying attention, since I explained my town lean on Mages in one of my first posts + I've repeatedly said that the sentence about Avatar wasn't a reason for him being scum. Stop lieing. Here are your reads: On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
So, here are my brief observations from the early posts (any topics I took the effort to write down):
1) Mages
Started the game by downplaying himself, which might be new/nervous town or scummy avoiding of attention. Continued to express his thoughts after that, which makes me lean town, especially since he wasn't just following the flow of the thread but rather tried to bring his own thoughts to the discussion. Especially as a new scum player it would be somewhat hard/risky to post like that.
2) MysteryMeat1
Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.
The bolded is for both people the same. They downplay their game. BUT, the green stuff makes Mages a townread for you. While the red stuff made MM1 a scumread for you. Clearly Avatar talk made MM1 more scummy to you. If you say that it never did, I am just calling scumhunting for this day and make sure you are lynched. Maybe you were an overzealous townie, maybe, but don't tell me you weren't scumreading MM1 partly because he talked about Avatar. Because you did. To me, its obvious here that what made MM1 1v1's vote candidate was his response to VE's pressure and the Kush/VE votes indicating that others agreed with him. Which really isn't a town mindset but is also not what Koshi was trying to push on him. Which is why I felt like you two weren't necessarily pushing on the right axis and it made it hard to read. Hence, On August 12 2014 00:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't read that post the same way koshi I do think attacking same easy targets other people attack is scummy. I mean, townies do that aswell. But the whole construction of the post does not say anything - all it does is it gives onevone all sorts of outs to back off from his reads later on. I had a feeling you were referring to batsnacks when you said this btw, on how he is just repeatedly attacking kotc when everyone have already pointed that shit out. Okay Haru is mafia because this does not make any sense at all. Noone is stupid enough to not see i am talking about - and ONLY about - 1v1 here. No chance.
Read my new list post.
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BRB give me 20 minutes to redo my drawing, I think I might have confused myself here.
On August 12 2014 22:45 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 22:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 22:35 HaruRH wrote:On August 12 2014 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On August 12 2014 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sn0_Man could you also explain to me why you just said "it's more Koshi who is taking things out of proportion" but all of your post suggests otherwise. You don't like my points but Koshi has some sensible ideas.
How does that make sense? Koshi's push on the "avatar" bit see: On August 12 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 00:37 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 00:33 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 00:29 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am putting Mages to townpile aswell. By the way, it'd be more helpful if you also explained your reads while sharing them rather than just saying "X is town, Y is scum". I agree with rayn. It would be helpful if you could tell us why Mages his play is most likely coming from town. Why should rayn tell you the answers to the game? rayn is testing others if they pay attention. Why are you not paying attention? Spoilered because I am bored talking about this: + Show Spoiler +On August 12 2014 00:28 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 00:02 Damdred wrote:On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:2) MysteryMeat1 Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now. ##Vote MysteryMeat1On August 11 2014 11:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
His first post was all "Man I'm so bad and I can already tell you that you won't want to listen to anything I say"
Obviously I'm paraphrasing. But that's the feels I got reading his post. It made my ass twitch. Ok I think I might of played to many IML games and i'm putting to much on where votes are right now. However if you don't think its scummy why even put it in your post that lead up to a vote? Dunno, I had just finished writing about Mages and moved on to MM1. Both had downplayed themselves, but MM1 also talked about Avatar, so I guess I just put it in there. Yeah you are scum. There is no reason for you to bring up again that somebody talked about Avatar in the 5 first posts of the game when everybody at that time was talking about Avatar. It is completely null that when there are people talking about watching Avatar, there is another guy who chimes in and says "I also watch avatar". There is no fucking way that you can add him talking about Avatar to something else and come to the conclusion he is scum or scummy. It's you who isn't paying attention, since I explained my town lean on Mages in one of my first posts + I've repeatedly said that the sentence about Avatar wasn't a reason for him being scum. Stop lieing. Here are your reads: On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
So, here are my brief observations from the early posts (any topics I took the effort to write down):
1) Mages
Started the game by downplaying himself, which might be new/nervous town or scummy avoiding of attention. Continued to express his thoughts after that, which makes me lean town, especially since he wasn't just following the flow of the thread but rather tried to bring his own thoughts to the discussion. Especially as a new scum player it would be somewhat hard/risky to post like that.
2) MysteryMeat1
Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.
The bolded is for both people the same. They downplay their game. BUT, the green stuff makes Mages a townread for you. While the red stuff made MM1 a scumread for you. Clearly Avatar talk made MM1 more scummy to you. If you say that it never did, I am just calling scumhunting for this day and make sure you are lynched. Maybe you were an overzealous townie, maybe, but don't tell me you weren't scumreading MM1 partly because he talked about Avatar. Because you did. To me, its obvious here that what made MM1 1v1's vote candidate was his response to VE's pressure and the Kush/VE votes indicating that others agreed with him. Which really isn't a town mindset but is also not what Koshi was trying to push on him. Which is why I felt like you two weren't necessarily pushing on the right axis and it made it hard to read. Hence, On August 12 2014 00:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't read that post the same way koshi I do think attacking same easy targets other people attack is scummy. I mean, townies do that aswell. But the whole construction of the post does not say anything - all it does is it gives onevone all sorts of outs to back off from his reads later on. I had a feeling you were referring to batsnacks when you said this btw, on how he is just repeatedly attacking kotc when everyone have already pointed that shit out. Okay Haru is mafia because this does not make any sense at all. Noone is stupid enough to not see i am talking about - and ONLY about - 1v1 here. No chance. He just changed his story. meh, I am not a fan of HaruRh but less a fan of batsnacks. In some Universe I can see HaruRH being town and playing exactly like this.
In the universe where Haru actually wants to play d1 and not be a lynch target for ALL GAMES because he cant give reads d1
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