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Now there is no way we would be able to tell who is who unless we have a mass claim. It's already late enough that we don't have a picking planed up. I would advice everyone to try to go for either the roles I listed or the roles BC listed. Keep in mind, mafia did ban out all of the DT roles, so they probably have no problems with a mass claim. However, it is much better to have control and an idea of what these power roles are doing, rather than let mafia use them on their own. | ||
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On December 02 2013 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: In every PYP game when top picks have claimed their picks and followed some sort of a plan there has been scum found in top 6. And what are you trying to imply by that? | ||
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On December 02 2013 09:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: This post is totally wrong but i don't really care because people won't follow the plan anyways. I wouldn't say it is totally wrong. Ever since town decided the best idea was to ban out the obvious mafia roles, which was a horrible idea because those would be easy mafia kills, roles do not = aliment. However, giving mafia the power roles free reign is an incredibly stupid idea and come day I will be roleclaiming and voting anyone who doesnt | ||
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On December 02 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: The point was to ban the roles so that mafia needs to ban the investigative roles which leaves more room for other good roles to be in the game. Investigations can't be trusted anyways unless townies deny framer/GF/etc. Did you even read the thread yet? Nope, and that's the stupidest peace of logic I heard. Not only would mafia ban out the DT roles in the first place, DT roles are always valueable and are probably the easiest role to verity the alignment. Who was the major proponents so I know who to kill first? | ||
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On December 02 2013 09:57 justanothertownie wrote: Wait. Did you just say claiming now is stupid but claiming when the roles are out is necessary? THIS is really stupid. Now it is good to claim because the more people claim the more roles town gets. Scum might get more too but there are less of them. Claiming afterwards does not help in this regard but the points raised against claiming are still valid. Did I misunderstand you? I am very confused by this post. I think we should role claim after we get our roles. I haven't commented about claiming before we get our roles | ||
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On December 02 2013 10:29 StorrZerg wrote: whats your plan lsb? Everyone roleclaim after roles are given | ||
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I can change my position up to 5 players away on the signup list, dealing 50 dmg to each player EDIT: Due to rules | ||
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On December 02 2013 14:50 Mocsta wrote: SS - Null. Most of his posts are setup speculation which is acceptable either alignment at this phase of the game. I admit I haven't played with a scum SS; but I also havent played with a pleasant one either. It makes me naturally assume something is different. Hes active though which is a good sign too. Yes, null. Geript - Soft town lean. Trolling Geript is null. But this Geript appears to be trying to push the thread into a certain direction - using reasoning vs slander. I also like that he is trying to make "look at me statements" to be noticed. He *wants* the attention. For this stage of the game I think thats pretty townie. OdinOfPergo - Null to soft scum lean Very setup oriented filter so i dont place a lot value in having activity. Half the stuff hes takling about I have no idea about because I'm not familiar with LoL. Hes also got an early Day0 obsession with Jay which hasn't relented, yet, he seems to be asking the opinion of others rather than talk to Jay to firm up a read?. This is kinda reminding me of how I approached Storrzerg in Mafia LXIII. Storrzerg - Null No idea, nothing really to work off Sandroba - Null Sandroba is known for good plans as town so its natural for him to easily receive buy-in // propose something conceived pre-game. Hes also known for lurking as scum. Hes given reasoning for lack of activity, so I think he will become pretty clear over the next 48hrs especially with roles being out. gtrsrs - Soft town lean I hate players like this. Troll. Its pretty light hearted, and the joke he made on Sandroba made me laugh, which is probably a good sign - as joviality is hard to fake. Most of the stuff is selfish setup talk which probably indicates town that will be useless to moving the thread forward i.e. the usual TL sign up these days.  Oatsmaster - ?? It looks like hes trying to stir the pot intentionally. He seriously couldnt think that SS vet idea was good... I honestly have no idea how to read this guy anymore, he used to have direction in his pushes as town. Tips?? Justanothertownie - Null to Soft scum lean He is uncharacteristically active/assertive. The games I played with JAT he was pretty timid. Here he is calling people stupid and just in general seems to be on edge. I find he also talks to Rayn as if auto-assuming Rayn is town. White knighting? I'm still reading the thread, but I don't know if this is normal for Mocsta, but this post is a classic example of saying a ton that doesn't make up for anything. To me Mocsta is posting a lot to seem like an active townie, but nothing substantial but "null" or "leans" that really are just filler and don't contribute anything to the discussion. ##Vote: Mocsta | ||
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On December 03 2013 03:01 LSB wrote: I'm still reading the thread, but I don't know if this is normal for Mocsta, but this post is a classic example of saying a ton that doesn't make up for anything. To me Mocsta is posting a lot to seem like an active townie, but nothing substantial but "null" or "leans" that really are just filler and don't contribute anything to the discussion. ##Vote: Mocsta ##Unvote; Mocsta Oops I didn't see this was a response. I will revisit this accusation after I finish reading the thread | ||
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On not banning mafia roles: Comeon guys, if someone picks and uses a mafia role, you kill em because they are scum. No sane townie would ever use the mafia role. Sure it makes things harder for the town, but if the mafia dares try to use their role, they are painting an easy target on their back. Honestly I'd be okay with not having one or two flips for a guaranteed mafia kill. It would have been really easy to point out who took what role after a mass role claim. However I wasn't here for the ban phase and that is already over so I'm not going to comment on that On December 02 2013 14:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I also really don't like LSB's claim. He's probably telling the truth about the role, but tryndamere is such a scum role it feels like he's trying to hide in plain sight by claiming it. He's barely posted so I can't really draw on a correlation between his behavior and possible motives for claiming but I don't like it and will be keeping a close eye on how he uses the role. Of course I'm going to pick that role when I (as well as BC) singled it out as a power role. I am surprised that I actually got the role even though I am dead last pick. Speaking of Which On December 02 2013 06:05 bumatlarge wrote: In this list, I'm going to try to take into account what people have said they would do. I don't expect people to follow this, but know that I will pressure people who are high on the list and do not want to disclose what they are picking. 15. bumatlarge - Tryndamere I feel like tryn is too threatening for mafia, and hopefully mafia won't take it, or I'll know. I hopefully won't use it. What's up with this Bum? I would like a roleclaim please (Bumatlarge) as well as what you picked if you were VT. Or you can claim you went Tryndamere and we can both confirm our roles tonight. I don't understand supersoft's argument so I won't respond to it unless someone can explain it to me. Reposting the claim list I admit that I skimmed so I might have missed additional claims. Can someone tell me if there are any discrepancies Koshi [2][1] - Viktor Kurumi [4][6] - Big Bad Wolf VisceraEyes [5][4] - Lux jcarlsoniv [9][3] Mig [12][1] - Urgot? JonnyLaw [14][11] Risen [15][15] StorrZerg [23][23] geript [24][24] Warwick? -> VT? austinmcc [6][3] Meapak_Ziphh [6][14] Sandroba Fiora? Kenpachi[8][15] - VT? Rean [16][2] ?-> VT bumatlarge [16][12] -> BloddyC0bbler [17][5] Janna? justanothertownie marvellosity [7][2] - Blue Claim gtrsrs [7][11] Kha'Zix -> VT OdinOfPergo [7][16] Karma -> VT Mocsta [1][5] ? ->VT supersoft [1][30] Oatsmaster [1][1] Cho'Gath ->VT raynpelikoneet [1][1] - Shen kushm4sta ticklishmusic Taric Roffles Coagulation jaybrundage [Tabbz] Ezreal? LSB -> Tryndamere | ||
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Kurumi [4][6] - Big Bad Wolf to Kurumi [4][6] - Warwick | ||
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On December 03 2013 03:41 jcarlsoniv wrote: And I now realize that my thoughts on LSB are conflicting and I'm confused now. <3 | ||
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On December 03 2013 03:48 jcarlsoniv wrote: And what if it isn't a fake claim? What if it is mafia LSB that has tryndamere? LSB - why did you pick tryn when it seemed bum would do so? Because as last place there would be very little chance I would get any role, so I picked a random role from my power list to check it to see if anyone picked it. Also I didn't read that Bum was going to picked it. BC pointed it out in thread so I just reposted what he said in emphasis | ||
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We need you to roleclaim in order to lock down who has what roles so that they are not misused. Ultimately as the game goes on, roles will be revealed by the process of elimination, however we need to lock down what roles do what early so they cannot be misused. I applaud Kurumi for roleclaiming so early due to the importance of his role. However there are many other roles that we need to find out because they are so dangerous. A lot of these roles can wreak a ton of havoc should they be allowed free reign for a few nights, and even possibly wreak havoc on the nights after. I want to remind you all in a mass power role game the mafia has an advantage in that they can easily coordinate their actions as well as keep track of everyone else’s actions. That’s why I feel it is important for someone (ie me) to keep track of all claims as I’m sure the mafia is doing that too, and find out roles to break the mafia advantage in being able to coordinate their actions easily. I am not currently going to the extreme that we will need to dictate your actions at night. Right now it is very important to figure out what we are working with. If you take 300 damage at night, we need to know how it was caused, rather than stare helplessly as we all die. Koshi [2][1] - Viktor Kurumi [4][6] - Warwick VisceraEyes [5][4] - Lux jcarlsoniv [9][3] Mig [12][1] JonnyLaw [14][11] Risen [15][15] StorrZerg [23][23] geript [24][24] Warwick? -> VT? austinmcc [6][3] Meapak_Ziphh [6][14] Sandroba Fiora? Kenpachi[8][15] - VT? Rean [16][2] ?-> VT bumatlarge [16][12] -> BloddyC0bbler [17][5] Janna? justanothertownie marvellosity [7][2] - Blue Claim gtrsrs [7][11] Kha'Zix -> VT OdinOfPergo [7][16] Karma -> VT Mocsta [1][5] ? ->VT supersoft [1][30] Oatsmaster [1][1] Cho'Gath ->VT raynpelikoneet [1][1] - Shen kushm4sta ticklishmusic Taric Roffles Coagulation jaybrundage [Tabbz] Ezreal? LSB -> Tryndamere | ||
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