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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 22 2013 01:35 GMT
#19
/in

Spam mode activated.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 31 2013 00:25 GMT
#81
On October 31 2013 08:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
Calling out French people, thats very pro town.

Nah. That ain't true. If anything the French are 3p survivors of the world who just go with whoever is winning.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 31 2013 01:17 GMT
#83
On October 31 2013 09:31 hzflank wrote:
Stutters posting when he does not have to is a town Stutters.

Isn't it a tad bit early to suggest I'm town off one joke post less than an hour into the game? Also have we played where I'm scum? I'd say I did quite a bit of posting in Basterd that was extraneous. Titanic, town imploded so I was legit lurking, and then whatever my third game was I was legitimately busy.

Why so srs?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 31 2013 02:21 GMT
#86
On October 31 2013 10:45 Grackaroni wrote:
Let's kill the Oatsmaster.

##Vote: Oatsmaster

Why not lynch you?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 31 2013 03:07 GMT
#99
On October 31 2013 11:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeahhhhh sick pressure vote Grack.
Lets kill the Oatsmaster
##vote OATSMASTER
Lets not smurf hunt because there is literally no point.

I might be drunk, but I do not like this post and would be ok with lynching him.currently. Or Grack, both their posts come off weird. More so Grack, but I'd lynch either.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 31 2013 04:51 GMT
#116
On October 31 2013 12:53 hzflank wrote:
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On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:
Why label Stutters as town


As a conversation starter. Up until that point only little blue men were being discussed and I am unable to partake in that discussion to to my unfamiliarity with big green or red men. Obviously I did not think that Stutters' post gave a clue to his alignment, but I may not of conveyed the tone correctly.

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On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:
and leave the thread?


Due to Stutters reply. As you begin to read his post he appears to care about what I said, then when you get to the end I realised that he does not care. There was no reason to continue that line of conversation with him and I had nothing that I wanted to post, so I decided to spare the poor tl.net servers the effort of adding another one of my posts for a short while.

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On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:
Your post serves no greater purpose other than to gain Stutters' support.


But my post gave you something to post about and in turn gave me something to post about. Now I can wonder why you commented on my post twice even though that you thought my post had no purpose. You might be mafia looking for something to post about, but obviously this early in the game there is no real need for that. You may be town attempting to move a conversation forward. Or perhaps you genuinely thought I had a clue as to Stutter's alignment two hours into the game when only five people had posted, and felt the need to call me out on that. Either of those possibilities fit in with your second post.

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On October 31 2013 12:07 Asinine wrote:
Looks like he didn't even gain Stutters support... Regardless, hzflank does not look good right now.


The (rhetorical) question is: did you post that for the sake of posting something? Or did you post that hoping that I would reply directly to you? Or did you post that because when you were reading the thread for the first time you were already looking for scum, and my post was the only thing so far that looked like it might be scum?

I have no flipping idea, but less than five hours into the game and when I am tired, that's the best that I can do at the moment.

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On October 31 2013 10:17 Stutters695 wrote:
Why so srs?


Oh, you wanted me to be less serious? Oops


I really want to lynch you when I wake up...

This is the most over-explanatory and unnecessary defense I've ever seen. Feeling defensive cause you're scum?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 31 2013 12:30 GMT
#124
On October 31 2013 14:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I liked it too. Its not really defense, more like a running commentary. Stutters, are you gonna call anyone town?

A running commentary doesn't make it town commentary. In what ways does his post even attempt to help town?

Each section of his post starts out ok, but he keeps bringing it back to how it's early, it's the best he can do, etc.

That's obvious when it's only a few hours into d1 and implies he's guilty about something and I don't like it.


I'll call someone town when someone gives me a reason to. Why don't you give me a reason?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 31 2013 13:17 GMT
#126
I like your thought process JJD, but although I'm not a fan of Hz, I think your conclusions are flawed.

Being for or against a RNG lynch is completely null.It's a dumb decision, but town makes dumb decisions often.

Also depending on his history in d1, it's completely possible that his d1 votes fall well under 31%.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 31 2013 15:20 GMT
#145
On October 31 2013 22:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On October 31 2013 21:30 Stutters695 wrote:
On October 31 2013 14:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I liked it too. Its not really defense, more like a running commentary. Stutters, are you gonna call anyone town?

A running commentary doesn't make it town commentary. In what ways does his post even attempt to help town?

Each section of his post starts out ok, but he keeps bringing it back to how it's early, it's the best he can do, etc.

That's obvious when it's only a few hours into d1 and implies he's guilty about something and I don't like it.


I'll call someone town when someone gives me a reason to. Why don't you give me a reason?

Not every post has to 'help' town. How does you saying you want to lynch me and Grack help town? It doesnt.
Are you scum?

Generates discussion in the early hours of the game.

There is also a huge difference between early game banter and a calculated defensive post.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 31 2013 15:42 GMT
#146
I want to know why there are experienced players advocating a RNG lynch over a lurker lynch. Have you guys given that any thought. If so what makes you prefer a RNG and if not why haven't you?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 31 2013 17:03 GMT
#161
On November 01 2013 01:13 Grackaroni wrote:
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On November 01 2013 00:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On November 01 2013 00:53 Grackaroni wrote:
This whole game is lurkers lol
still didn't answer his question. Why would an RNG lynch be better than a lurker lynch?

Because it can't be influenced by scum giving us good odds. That is the reason why statistically day 1 RNG lynches come out more successful than analysis.

This is terrible reasoning. The odds of lynching a scum from the hardcore(1-5 posts max, with a vote to stay alive and no contribution has the exact same odds as picking someone at random but provides an added benefit in the form of reducing the room scum has to hide in the inactives.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 31 2013 17:30 GMT
#165
What do you think of hzflank Fuba?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 31 2013 19:26 GMT
#183
So where did Asinine disappear to?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 31 2013 20:22 GMT
#186
On November 01 2013 04:49 Asinine wrote:
Having just caught up to the thread, I see no reason not to vote hzflank. He continues to sidestep accusations and fails to provide any answers to my questions.

##vote: hzflank

I would say he answered your questions decently. What else were you looking for in that regard?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 31 2013 21:01 GMT
#188
Ah, the Bereft at the beginning threw me off when I was skimming your posts to try and figure out what it was. Gotcha.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
November 01 2013 12:29 GMT
#351
On November 01 2013 21:02 Laughing Jack wrote:
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On November 01 2013 20:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Grack, none of those reasons make Jack scum, they may make him an asshole and bad but not SCUM. You have to say why he is scum because he does all these things.

Jack, can you elaborate on your Hzflank read cause I think he is leaning town for me.

I picked him because his flip would generate most information and discussion.
I'm interested why you have a green read on him.

Is hz scum or not and why? You can't just say he'll give the most info.

We're not lynching Oats today. If he's scum, he won't last to endgame and there are way better d1 lynches.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
November 01 2013 12:56 GMT
#354
Now, onto those better d1 lynches than Oats.

I'm actually starting to doubt my HZ read. His point on Fuba is pretty good and I really need to see what Fuba does when he's back.

I'm not 100% against an Hz lynch still because he picked such an easy thing to point out. I noticed it but didn't think much of it and he's still lacking quite a bit in regards to scum-hunting.

I'd like to hear more out of Mig. His point against Hz is interesting (worried about offending) but nothing even close to conclusive and the timing is what concerns me most. He comes in to say that, then bounce rather than interact with anyone still in the thread. A really easy way to contribute d1 and avoid suspicion when people are doing even less.

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
November 01 2013 13:19 GMT
#357
On November 01 2013 22:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On November 01 2013 21:56 Stutters695 wrote:
Now, onto those better d1 lynches than Oats.

I'm actually starting to doubt my HZ read. His point on Fuba is pretty good and I really need to see what Fuba does when he's back.

I'm not 100% against an Hz lynch still because he picked such an easy thing to point out. I noticed it but didn't think much of it and he's still lacking quite a bit in regards to scum-hunting.

I'd like to hear more out of Mig. His point against Hz is interesting (worried about offending) but nothing even close to conclusive and the timing is what concerns me most. He comes in to say that, then bounce rather than interact with anyone still in the thread. A really easy way to contribute d1 and avoid suspicion when people are doing even less.


I wanna know who you would kill NOW stutters.

Right now, without info from any of the people I mentioned above, a lurker or LA. I get the feeling LA is capable of much more and his posting has been bad. If we don't get more posting gong, we won't make it to endgame so weeding out a lurker before it's too late if we don't have a comfortable lynch is probably the next best thing to just take the coinflip.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
November 01 2013 16:13 GMT
#372
Well I was hoping Fuba/Hz would have posted by now since I want to see what they say, but I want to get this out there sooner rather than later so other people can give their input also.

Fuba usually is a low post, high analysis player. That analysis is non-existent in his vote on Hz. If memory serves he usually has no problem saying he doesn't know until he is certain someone is scum. I'm at work, phone posting, so I can't check past games. This does remind me far too much of Basterd Mini where he struggled to push anyone (as scum) who wasn't actually scum because he struggles finding reasons. Consequently, he lurked a lot d1 until he had stuff to weigh in on during massive posts.

The only reason I'm not pushing him 100% right now is if he is really busy he wouldn't have a lot of time and I can't remember any games off the top of my head on how he played in one where he was limited on time.

Anyone experienced with him want to weigh in on that?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
November 01 2013 17:55 GMT
#398
On November 02 2013 02:38 Mig wrote:
err he has 7 pages worth of posts in ##mafia since this game started. In that time frame he has 8 posts here with all but one of them being one liners.

That is null imo. Probably overwhelmed and I don't know his disposition on playing scum really. If it was like Palmar/BH I would immediately lynch them, but with him he's lurked as town and scum and been active as both I believe.

Did you read my post on Fuba? I've never played with you and would love your thoughts on it to get a feel for you.
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