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myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
August 24 2013 14:12 GMT
#61
/in
myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
September 05 2013 09:22 GMT
#342
On September 05 2013 17:41 ShiaoPi wrote:
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On September 05 2013 13:35 killerdog wrote:

Mod question, If myrzeth doesn't show up by midnight CET, does he just die, or does a replacement get put in. Browsing the thread, the only two replacements i noticed were koshi and someone else, but you said koshi had way too many games for a newbie mafia, and the other guy mentioned only doing it if apeture mafia didn't start, which it has.



If myrzeth does not post or vote until midnight CEST, he will be replaced if it is possible. I would prefer not to use Koshi's offer since he is quite experienced. If I can find no other replacement I will contact Koshi.
Modkilling sucks, especially on Day 1 already...


Being quiet is usually the best choice, at least on the SC2 Mafia Arcade game. You re able to observe everything and judge on your own.
Don t worry, i m active
myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
September 05 2013 14:57 GMT
#349
On September 05 2013 21:32 Holyflare wrote:
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On September 05 2013 18:22 myRZeth wrote:
On September 05 2013 17:41 ShiaoPi wrote:
On September 05 2013 13:35 killerdog wrote:

Mod question, If myrzeth doesn't show up by midnight CET, does he just die, or does a replacement get put in. Browsing the thread, the only two replacements i noticed were koshi and someone else, but you said koshi had way too many games for a newbie mafia, and the other guy mentioned only doing it if apeture mafia didn't start, which it has.



If myrzeth does not post or vote until midnight CEST, he will be replaced if it is possible. I would prefer not to use Koshi's offer since he is quite experienced. If I can find no other replacement I will contact Koshi.
Modkilling sucks, especially on Day 1 already...


Being quiet is usually the best choice, at least on the SC2 Mafia Arcade game. You re able to observe everything and judge on your own.
Don t worry, i m active



Seriously, I am 100% going to vote you in the next few hours unless you post something with contribution... This is NOT the sc2 mafia game.



Of course it s not, but i m new to the TL mafia game, so i ll follow my own strategies in the game for now
myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
September 05 2013 15:05 GMT
#351
voting holyflare, because he s voting me without any clues/analysis/whatever

you can t vote somebody because of his playstyle, especially not that early, think about that


simply a countervote
myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
September 05 2013 15:09 GMT
#353
On September 06 2013 00:07 Holyflare wrote:
Alternatively, you could follow the plethora of helpful guides because you will definitely be lynched today if you continue to do what you are doing. What is the point of doing your strategy if you end up dead after all.



Useful Guides
  • A General Guide to Playing Mafia - very useful!
  • LSB's Newbie Guide
  • Mafiascum Newbie Guide
  • Introduction to Mafia (Flash)
  • Ver's town guide
  • Ace's Mafia Manifesto
  • Qatol's Town Guide
  • Qatol's Mafia VII Experience
  • Ace's Cop/Vigi guide



my point is that a different approach isn t necessary wrong approach
myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
September 05 2013 15:11 GMT
#356
On September 06 2013 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
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On September 06 2013 00:05 myRZeth wrote:
voting holyflare, because he s voting me without any clues/analysis/whatever

you can t vote somebody because of his playstyle, especially not that early, think about that


simply a countervote



Yes you can. Like I said, this isn't SC2 mafia. If you have contributed nothing in the game so far and refuse to why should we keep you in? The whole point of the game is to identify yourself as town to other people within the town. How is this possible when you refuse to post ANYTHING? You could easily just as likely be mafia doing the same thing since there is no reason for a town to hold back so you become the most useless person to us in the game currently. It is also not early, there is not long left in the day phase.


i don t refuse to post anything, this is still early
if someone accuses me like you do, or if i have a clue, i ll share it obviously
myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
September 05 2013 15:26 GMT
#361
On September 06 2013 00:25 Holyflare wrote:
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On September 06 2013 00:22 DarthPunk wrote:
Vote Count!

HolyFlare (0): Umasi

Lord Velocity (2): Chairman Ray, killerdog

Heavenz (1): Umasi

Bereft (0): Lord Velocity

Vote myRZeth (2): Holyflare, Lord Velocity

Currently Lord Velocity is set to be lynched!

REMINDER: Voting is mandatory! The Person with the most votes at the end of the day will be lynched!

Deadline is at 22:00 GMT (+00:00)!



you missed myrzeth's vote on me



was just about to point that out
myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
September 05 2013 15:32 GMT
#367
On September 06 2013 00:30 killerdog wrote:
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On September 05 2013 14:38 Umasi wrote:

Killerdog, I'm having trouble understanding what exactly you think, because you give a lot of summations of peoples posts, and your thoughts (which is good!) but you don't actually draw conclusions from it all. Instead of going X did A and Y did B which had a scummy result, be like 'this is why he is scummy/not scummy'.
I can't tell what you're actually trying to communicate in your post =/



I thought I sort of did that in the long post I made while ago, but it might have been a bit hard to find because the post got a bit bloated :p

I'll just put players in an abridged list of reads, in vague town to mafia order

Town-
Killerdog: (fuck yeah)
Umasi: + Show Spoiler +
Currently town read, hasn't been as much as some people, but the the posts he did make all seemed to serve a purpose, and I feel like he's been consistent in calling out behaviour he disagrees with. Also amde a few good town guiding posts. As the game progresses I'd hope for a little more reads/pressure coming from him, but he's definitely not what I'd call n1 lynch potential at all.

Blurry: + Show Spoiler +
I got a very town read off blurry, for reasons I said last post. However he's provided no content (other then a "good post tomorrow" promise) in the last 36 or so hours. I'm keeping him high on my town list under the assumption that he's going to make a really good town post in the next few hours, if he doesn't post, or just parrots some other opinions then he's going quite far down the list very quickly. Don't feel like he'd be a good n1 lynch just because I'm loath to abandon someone who read so town at start, but if he doesn't have a reason for vanishing or if he posts nothing of value before the voting deadline I'll reassess.

Holyflare: + Show Spoiler +
Holyflare's been very very active, even if a lot of the posts have been a bit fulffy with regards to relevant content. I felt like he spent most of day 1 arguing about how "mafia should be played" rather then actually playing it, which can read as scum given how he didn't want any associations thrown on him, but he god into three arguments really quickly with blurry, bereft and Umasi and didn't back down from any of them (to the point where Umasi voted him.) I feel that's a point in his favour as town, because it would take a very brave mafia to be willing to thrust himself into the limelight that quickly. He's also made two decent posts since the, one calling out heavenz and infii for their relative lack of content. While ragging on people who haven't been very productive is by no means enough to put you as a pure town read, I liked his posts, and unless he suddenly locks up would like to keep him around.

Worth noting is that I think having at this stage in the game, I voting off a vocal player who might be a bit scummy is a worse play then voting off someone who has contributed nothing. We really don't want to punish contributing, and potentially end up on day 3 or 4 with a few players who have yet to commit to anything, and have all the people we've pushed hard (and have lots of post to reference and analyse) be dead.

it gets a bit fuzzier here
Lord Velocity: + Show Spoiler +
It feels a bit like he wears his heart on his sleeve, he goes super from a little pressure, then with a little reassurance goes super starts posting normally, then goes super defensive/apologetic from some more pressure, then a little reassurance and he's back to posting normally, even being willing to knock other people for being suspicious of him because he feels he's been cleared. I don't think a mafia would be this confident in towns opinion of him, and would be a little more wary given how many times he's been under heavy suspicion. I also like that he's actively posting and engaging in discussion. Again, I really don't see him as a n1 lynch candidate right now, just because he's active, unafraid despite already having been under the gun twice, and as I said in holyflares area. Even if someone is reading a bit scummy, as long as they're active and contributing I'd rather lynch someone who's being super non-committal on the first day or 2. I get that that some people might disagree with that statement but if they do then I'd ask that we have that discussion day 2 rather then now, as we have only got 9 hours left to decide on a lynch, and I'd rather leave "meta policy" discussions or whatever until we've decided on a lynch for tonight.

Bereft: + Show Spoiler +
Honestly have no idea what to do with him right now, he argued with holyflare early on, then made a post about another game being funny and vanished. It feels like he didn't re-read the thread closely enough on returning or something, but he was making some accusations/quoting things out of context which didn't really make sense at the time he got back. He's not been afraid to give opinions on multiple people though, and I wouldn't mind keeping him around as long as he posts more/says more. If he keeps vanishing then coming back and quoting things out of context he's gonna go down the list pretty fast.

Lonemeow: + Show Spoiler +
Have trouble getting a read right now, doesn't have very many posts, but he's asking questions when he see's things which don't make sense to him and is giving his opinion on things. While he's part of the trio of inii/heavenz/lonemeow who I feel have been a little sparse with regards to putting their foot down, and would like to see a bit more pressure applied towards him, I feel out of those three he's been asking questions indiscriminatingly which puts him above the other two for now..

Heavenz: + Show Spoiler +
Same boat as lonemeow right now, he moans about inactives but has a grand total of 6 posts, only two of which contained actual analysis. While his longest post isn't poorly written and contains some decent insight, but is a bit sparse with actual reads (only clear read is him saying velocity is town), 2 or 3 good points isn't really much to your name after almost 48 hours of play. Personally I don't think he's a good n1 lynch, because he's shown the potential for decent analytical posts, and is willing to throw suspicion on people, however if he doesn't start posting more regurarly and being a bit clearer with what he thinks things actually mean then he's not going any higher on my list.

Infii: + Show Spoiler +
Hasn't posted much at all, he promised a big post today, and based on that he'll either go up in the list or stay here, I'll probably make my decision on whether he feels like a valid day 1 lynch or not based off that.

Chairman ray: + Show Spoiler +
Said he was working on his scum reads but hasn't mentioned *anyone* except holyflare and umasi, where are you reads? Also jumped really hard on Lord Velocity, I know I did too but I've explained my reasoning, and I'm curious what Ray's is. Hasn't really done anything except say things about holyflare and umasi, who aren't really relevant (imo) with regards to the day1 lynch, and has shown no signs of changing, He's probably the non afk player I would be most willing to lynch at this point.

Pharcyd3: + Show Spoiler +
afk-ed, probably gonna get mod killed

myrzeth: + Show Spoiler +
claims he's been active but hasn't posted shit. That means he's read all our posts saying he needs to come out and hasn't done anything. This isn't a game where everyone does their own thing in a corner, it's a game where town has to work together, not sure if he's really bad town, creative mafia, or trolling but he's my current #1 lynch



My role being i can t contribute a lot, just analyze your posts and if i have i lead i would gladly share it.
myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
September 07 2013 08:58 GMT
#554
On September 07 2013 08:25 Holyflare wrote:
Not to mention there are 3 scum, not just you.



you re pretty aggressive
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