Newbie Mini Mafia XLIV

On July 06 2013 08:54 StiMaDDict wrote:
I hope Alakslam and Umasi play in this one.
Now that would be interesting XD

On July 15 2013 09:12 Umasi wrote:
UNIMPRESSED
##VOTE ONEGU


wait shit

Immediately, the first thing I thought of was that there is no way in hell the scum QT would let him continue ranting and raving like this. They would have told him immediately to chill out and claim he was joking too, or something. Bolding because this is the first real revelation I've had on this case.

On July 15 2013 10:15 Alakaslam wrote:
Just got here, 'sup Umasi, 'Sup Onegu? Seems I'll be joining the latter in reading up...

On July 15 2013 10:38 Umasi wrote:


no hard feelings, now come mire in the muck of my mediocre mafia play

On July 14 2013 03:21 Hurricane Sponge wrote:


I wouldn't say it's a big deal. I just wanted to see what evidence you had gathered to make your read, because it's useful for the town if you can help us identify Chrom as town.

@Chrom:

+ Show Spoiler +

If Stim hadn't have returned, I'd probably drop the issue entirely and focus my efforts elsewhere, anticipating a /replacement or mod action.

+ Show Spoiler +

I'm surprised you do not agree with my reads. I shall re-evaluate them. You are Neutral to me for the reasons I mentioned: while you and Umasi are scumhunting (+), I believe you're doing it in an anti-town manner (-). That is: making logical leaps, confirmation bias, poor analysis. Scum can scumhunt too, and that's exactly how I imagine they'd do it. I also don't feel like I'm sheeping Superfluous. I raised some independent analysis regarding him in my earlier post (centering on the fact that our reads are very different, signifying a disconnect from my own POV that is significant enough to be Town-Scum). Are there any other glaring mistakes in particular you'd like to hear my thoughts on?





I really don't like that last part where he gives one lurker the FoS, but a second one a free pass in the same post. I don't like that his reads seem diametrically opposed to mine, which implies a significant difference in frame-of-reference. I don't like his case on HZ (which is a case in name only). I don't like that he's suspicious of townies who enter the thread willing to lynch.



As I told Umasi late last night when we were the only two in the thread, I love his scumhunting, but I cringe at his methods. He's got a big problem with confirmation bias and attacking his target when he should just be poking, bringing the level of discourse down into the mud too soon. Like I said in the earlier post, I think he's Green-Black: Bad Town, Good Scum, or Good Town That I Just Can't Read. The early game aggression is much preferred to the alternative (lurking), but if he keeps some of these traits up into the late game, I'm worried for town.

Moving on:



I hate Umasi and Chrom as lynch targets for Day 1. Town does not want to lynch guys this active and scumhunting this hard. Regardless of the fact that I think Superfluous is scummier at this point, I'd push for a Lurker lynch over one of either of Umasi or Chrom.

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Current Events:

I think StiM's case on Kirby is weak. Lots of fallacies in there. Everything quoted is interpreted single-mindedly as scum, and even the stuff that's pro town is justified as 'this is clearly scum trying to look town'.

On July 14 2013 04:14 Koshi wrote:
I would sheep. I have no targets that need to get lynched now.

On July 15 2013 12:52 Umasi wrote:
Onegu, what are your thoughts, where are you at in the filter, etcetcetc

On July 14 2013 05:14 Superfluous wrote:
Admittedly I am giving reads more to get off my back than to help us. I'm trying to get reads, but nothing is super strong so I'm not going to jump to lynch someone. I would vote for xzavier right now because he's my strongest read, but thats because we have to vote not because I feel he's 100% scum It really hurts us to lynch town day one, which is the same reason I brought up the idea of no lynching, and the same reason I'm trying to relieve pressure from myself.

That said ##Vote Xzavier Because I'm going to a concert tonight and may be up late/ sleep in so I don't want to forget to vote.

On July 14 2013 05:17 Umasi wrote:


You could also be trying to relieve pressure from yourself because you're scum /gasp

You literally just told us "I have not been scumhunting, I am just trying not to die"
Reminds me of Onegu.

In fact, that's EXACTLY what Onegu did
haha
I don't want to judge you based on his meta but still t.t

On July 15 2013 13:06 Onegu wrote:


But day3 on a one man scumteam for me so you cant compare to much.

On July 14 2013 07:04 Chromatically wrote:
Trying to stay alive isn't a scumtell though. Let's say that you come back to the thread and see a case on you. Your forat order of business, as would be any townie's, is to defend yourself.

I really think that Super is just new. His posting doesn't feel like scum. He makes an honest effort to scumhunt, he points out things that he thinks are scummy (ex: one random sponge post).

On July 14 2013 08:07 Koshi wrote:
I am not leaning Town on kirby AT ALL. But I am saying that I like the Super case much better. If there was a lynch right now I would go:
1) Super
2) kirby
3) Gotard
4) no lynch unless everybody really wants Stim.